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mind the walrus posted:To ignore it is the same as pretending it never happened. Making good from the wreckage is far more respectful. Nobody ever seems to be trying to "make good from the wreckage" of the time Peter backhanded Mary Jane across a room. Probably because writers rightly moved on and ignored it instead of dwelling on it for two decades.
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MH Knights posted:Like a certain issue of Avengers involving Carol Danvers? Now way that could ever be "tidied" up. Doesn't stop people from bringing it up instead of ignoring it.  (I agree with you, I'm tired of them trying to justify rape stories.)
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mind the walrus posted:To ignore it is the same as pretending it never happened. Making good from the wreckage is far more respectful. People keep doing it over and over and over and over, though. At least with the Pym is a Wifebeater bit, I dunno much about Mockingbird. Ashikan judan posted:Nobody ever seems to be trying to "make good from the wreckage" of the time Peter backhanded Mary Jane across a room. Probably because writers rightly moved on and ignored it instead of dwelling on it for two decades. Also this. Minor characters like Hank Pym and Mockingbird are easy to get swallowed up by one big notable thing.
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mind the walrus posted:To ignore it is the same as pretending it never happened. Making good from the wreckage is far more respectful. It didn't happen. It's a work of fiction and continuity is pretty loose. If a given story doesn't make reference to it, then that's all that is necessary.
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ImpAtom posted:Doesn't stop people from bringing it up instead of ignoring it. Comics were a mistake.
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Yeah, shockingly some stories and moments are garbage fire and deserve to be left to burn with the rest of the garbage fire. Like... extreme example. But if you suddenly sprouted a boil that leaked pus and ruined all chance of human interaction with its smell and well the whole pus leaking thing. You would not then draw a smiley face on the boil and put it in a dress and call it Booboo and try to make "The best" of the situation. You'd get a doctor to cut the motherfucker off. Hell the worst thing about trying to make the "Best" of the situation, is that then EVERY writer wants to do that. Chief example, Hank Pym. He will never get past hitting the Wasp. Some writer is going to come around who wants to "write the definitive Hank Pym tale" and that'll involve bringing up and "resolving" or "making better of" the whole situation, and then it'll keep happening with every writer. For example, I much prefer that they rarely if ever bring up how Xavier wanted to bone Jean Grey.
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WickedHate posted:People keep doing it over and over and over and over, though. At least with the Pym is a Wifebeater bit, I dunno much about Mockingbird. The last ongoing with her name on the cover also had a story 'dealing' with the Phantom Rider. In that one, he possessed his great-granddaughter. (Says the one person who bought every issue of Hawkeye & Mockingbird)
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You'd think by now that she would have just bugged Dr Strange for some kind of anti-rear end in a top hat ghost charm.
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Kwyndig posted:You'd think by now that she would have just bugged Dr Strange for some kind of anti-rear end in a top hat ghost charm. That would just lead to Dr. Strange getting jobbed.
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Pureauthor posted:Transformers More Than Meets The Eye #35: By the end he's fully embraced the stupidity. Here he is riding to his certain death. Synthbuttrange posted:Transformers, More Than Meets The Eye.
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Scooty puff Jr rides again!
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mind the walrus posted:To ignore it is the same as pretending it never happened. Making good from the wreckage is far more respectful. Ignoring it is better than trying to 'fix' because you can't fix it without ruining the message and/or diminishing what he did. If your story doesn't relate to Pym attempting to redeem himself in his own eyes for his mistakes then there's no reason to reference it, if you want to address it then you honour it such as in Secret Invasion where he was given a complete out of every bad thing he had ever done and nobody would ever know different and he chose to own it. poo poo like the Ultimates where he's just an abusive jerk diminishes the essential mundanity of his breakdown and him striking Janet, and you can then dismiss it with "oh, Pym's just a dickhead" instead of learning a lesson of maybe try talking to your loved ones and friends about your problems instead of bottling them all up inside you until you boil over from the stress of building killer robots to prove you're not losing it.  Captain America Comics #2
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ImpAtom posted:That would just lead to Dr. Strange getting jobbed. 99percentofDrStrangestories.txt
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Hank Pym slapping the Wasp isn't within six degrees of most important character moments for the entire Marvel universe, get a hold of yourself. Anyway, here's a light-hearted comic about two friends saving a town of humble lemon-farmers from a no-good snake: http://imgur.com/a/sH7lM http://imgur.com/a/qYB5c http://imgur.com/a/XoAx2 Which inevitably leads them to the snakes nefarious evil lair http://imgur.com/a/uwe1x Nilbop fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Oct 22, 2016 |
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"eminent humiliating retreat"
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...was OG Rider always a pathetic rapist?
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Byzantine posted:...was OG Rider always a pathetic rapist? This is the dude who took over when the first one died. He was a prick.
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Also isn't the prick rider the Phantom Rider not Ghost Rider? Phantom Rider's an actual ghost, while Ghost Rider is a demon of vengeance kind of deal, right?
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He was Ghost Rider first.
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They tied Phantom Rider to the Ghost Rider lineage retroactively.
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Well, they do have the same last name
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well, after west coast avengers converted a scooby doo style ghost cowboy into an actual ghost cowboy it isn't that strange if he is related to other supernatural stuff.
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In honor of the late, great, Steve Dillon, here's the best Preacher page: http://www.yisoonshin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/5.jpg
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Senior Woodchuck posted:In honor of the late, great, Steve Dillon What? Aww man. 
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Nilbop posted:Hank Pym slapping the Wasp isn't within six degrees of most important character moments for the entire Marvel universe, get a hold of yourself. That artist really, really can't draw Jake's mouth. Senior Woodchuck posted:In honor of the late, great, Steve Dillon, here's the best Preacher page: Aww dammit.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:In honor of the late, great, Steve Dillon, here's the best Preacher page: This is not him mocking white supremacists at all!
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mind the walrus posted:I finally found that page from Mockingbird #8 I wanted to share: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUUDypEDNQ
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MH Knights posted:Like a certain issue of Avengers involving Carol Danvers? Now way that could ever be "tidied" up. I know I'm going to regret this, but I'm gonna do it anyway... Pictures/explanation, please?
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10 Beers posted:I know I'm going to regret this, but I'm gonna do it anyway... You're really going to regret this. It was posted just earlier. ImpAtom posted:Doesn't stop people from bringing it up instead of ignoring it. Yes, that's the actual story.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:In honor of the late, great, Steve Dillon, here's the best Preacher page: This is really not how I wanted to learn this
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Inasmuch as I have a favorite thing about Avengers #200, it's that Jim Shooter has apparently developed traumatic amnesia about it and has no idea what happened there. I can only assume that the gentlemen who are listed on the comic's masthead gathered one evening for an ether frolic and the comic was already at the printer by the time they sobered up.
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Wanderer posted:Inasmuch as I have a favorite thing about Avengers #200, it's that Jim Shooter has apparently developed traumatic amnesia about it and has no idea what happened there. It's hilarious to me that the story is so hosed up that it took Chris "mind control and body horror king" Claremont to Un gently caress it.
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Skwirl posted:It's hilarious to me that the story is so hosed up that it took Chris "mind control and body horror king" Claremont to Un gently caress it. Also the way he did it - Rogue is one of the most popular X-men
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Kevos Setzer posted:You're really going to regret this. Well, gently caress me. You...you weren't lying. I'm gonna go have a drink now.
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10 Beers posted:Well, gently caress me. You...you weren't lying. That was Carol Danver's reaction as well
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Wanderer posted:Inasmuch as I have a favorite thing about Avengers #200, it's that Jim Shooter has apparently developed traumatic amnesia about it and has no idea what happened there. Shooter was also the one who made Pym beat up Janet, and now claims it was a misunderstanding by the artist, so clearly all his Marvel writing was actually done by his Antimatter Universe counterpart.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:In honor of the late, great, Steve Dillon, here's the best Preacher page: It's not the hat page from later in that issue or "Where the gently caress is your chin!?", third-best page at best.  e: I mean, the hat page relies on the context from the page you linked, but still. Dareon fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Oct 23, 2016 |
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"Where the gently caress is your chin?" is my vote for best single panel ever, because it works equally well in the issue or totally on its own.
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