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Darkman Fanpage posted:it's really funny Sounds like a Black Mirror premise
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etalian posted:Sounds like a Black Mirror premise racism in the china thread?! mods???
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Oct 24, 2016 00:16
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This is really excellent news, I'd like to see a system like this implemented worldwide.
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Oct 24, 2016 00:19
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simplefish posted:So for the dehumanising argument, I think that that's a load of codswallop. 
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Oct 24, 2016 00:40
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THE PWNER posted:This is really excellent news, I'd like to see a system like this implemented worldwide. A uber passenger score for everything.
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Oct 24, 2016 00:42
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China in 2016 is every 80's dystopian movie cliche come true.
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Oct 24, 2016 01:12
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Blistex posted:Welcome to the wonderful world of being a Korean University Professor! "A++++'s for everyone (so I can keep my job)" Wouldn't be smarter to have the students rate the teachers and have the teachers submit final marks, THEN have them both sides get marks/ratings? I mean then there's no chance of retaliation. Outrail fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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Oct 24, 2016 01:19
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How do you rate and keep track of over a billion people
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Oct 24, 2016 02:06
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Stuff posted:How do you rate and keep track of over a billion people You can do it, just not well.
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Oct 24, 2016 02:09
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Outrail posted:Wouldn't be smarter to have the students rate the teachers and have the teachers submit final marks, THEN have them both sides get marks/ratings? I mean then there's no chance of retaliation. So no graded assignments or feedback on how students are doing until the end of the term? Good luck with that.
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Oct 24, 2016 02:09
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Stuff posted:How do you rate and keep track of over a billion people Give out points for tracking other people
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Oct 24, 2016 02:13
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Sheep-Goats posted:So no graded assignments or feedback on how students are doing until the end of the term? Good luck with that. Oh, right. Well I guess the answer is if the professor is any good they won't fail. Yeah, that works.
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Oct 24, 2016 02:19
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Re: 'food-oriented, solo-travel' How's Seoul?
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Oct 24, 2016 02:30
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Outrail posted:Oh, right. The college I went to discouraged students from asking their grades and while you did get feedback on your stuff and it did get graded you were not told the grades. This worked because the college was almost all aggressively intellectual and self driven students and honestly most people did not ask what their grades were. It's a much better system -- I've taken classes elsewhere as well and the paroxysms over grades and test curves that take place once every week or two are a huge waste of time and effort. If you were in danger of failing you would get notified during the course. Even in the US though this is too much for a lot of people to handle hearing about. Forget about it in Asia, especially in Bad Asia. Also the average GPA at that school is a lot lower than schools hosting similar quality students. They send a flyer out with transcripts saying as much but I doubt anyone cares. Anyway a lot of classes in the US are taught by assistant professors and their access to tenure is based in part on student reviews, so there are professors going easy on grades in the US for similar reasons as well. raton fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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Oct 24, 2016 02:39
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Stuff posted:How do you rate and keep track of over a billion people Like with any authoritarian police state, you make your subjects report each other.
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Oct 24, 2016 02:47
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Outrail posted:Wouldn't be smarter to have the students rate the teachers and have the teachers submit final marks, THEN have them both sides get marks/ratings? I mean then there's no chance of retaliation. It does exactly what it was intended to do. -having students give feedback on profs makes students feel better -profs know that student feedback can be vital to their continued employment so they make their classes easier for the students to get good grades -students feel more satisfaction because they get higher grades and speak highly of the university -admin can use the professor ratings to promote/demote profs as they see fit and even fire them without any other reason It has nothing to do with making the university better, and everything to do with get better ratings from students and to be used as a tool for department in-fighting and politics. A friend of mine has been a prof in Korea for going on 10 years, and has seen stuff that would make your average soap-opera seem like it was totally plausible and mundane. The impression he gave of working in a Korean University (especially as a foreigner) is that it's like the show "Survivor" except dialled up to 11 when it comes to the scheming and backstabbing. fish and chips and dip posted:Like with any authoritarian police state, you make your subjects report each other. "Ding, Ding, Ding!" This is just a 21st Century version of the red terror during the cultural revolution. Instead of having to brainwash a bunch of kids and village idiots to rat on their family and friends, all you need to do is tell them everyone is fighting for "high score" and if they want to grind to the next level, they are going to have to take out some of the competition. Blistex fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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Oct 24, 2016 02:49
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Sounds like your friend needs an SA account
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Oct 24, 2016 02:53
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Brannock posted:That is disgusting tbh only a 50% smoking rate for men sounds real low. Accretionist posted:Re: 'food-oriented, solo-travel' Seoul is good for Korea and mediocre at best by international standards. It would be near the bottom of my list for first time Asia food travel. Seoul is like if you take a small provincial town in any generic country and then increase the population to 25 million. It may become a real world city in the future but isn't there yet.
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Oct 24, 2016 02:57
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Grand Fromage posted:tbh only a 50% smoking rate for men sounds real low. Yeah, Seoul is probably the most forgettable place I've visited. It's "nice" but not overly exciting or special. The food, I enjoyed it, but then again I like sour and spicy which is like 90% of Korean food.
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Oct 24, 2016 03:00
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Sheep-Goats posted:So no graded assignments or feedback on how students are doing until the end of the term? Good luck with that. When I was in highschool they school year had two semesters. Parent complained they they didn't know that their special child was failing till after he got the bad grade. So the school did quarter grades. (These would no be on your transcript but grades for the quarter would be sent out.) They still go complaints so they did a rolling "deficiencies" do bad in a class for a few weeks they would roll those out to your parents. I know all these was done because officals couldn't just say "well check with your poo poo head students teacher"
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Oct 24, 2016 03:06
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Outrail posted:Sounds like your friend needs an SA account Not likely. He thinks I'm insane for remaining on SA after a helldump goon phoned my place of work and tried to get me fired.
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Oct 24, 2016 03:08
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For the record, I enjoy Haier's stories. I am an old now, but I was in Korea for 10 years, and I would have posted stories about plowing through virginal Han princesses, not only just to share them, but also to piss a lot of people off, which is what he seems to be doing, so good on him. Speaking of Korea (china lite): Blistex posted:Welcome to the wonderful world of being a Korean University Professor! "A++++'s for everyone (so I can keep my job)" Outrail posted:Wouldn't be smarter to have the students rate the teachers and have the teachers submit final marks, THEN have them both sides get marks/ratings? I mean then there's no chance of retaliation. Th government actually stepped in a few years ago and said basically that only something like 8% of a given class can get A, 20% B, etc. This has totally ramped up the "gift giving" for dickhole professors and the backstabbing between students. Students also now have to rate the professors a few weeks before the semester ends, and they don't get their grades until the evaluation period has ended. Blistex posted:A friend of mine has been a prof in Korea for going on 10 years, and has seen stuff that would make your average soap-opera seem like it was totally plausible and mundane. The impression he gave of working in a Korean University (especially as a foreigner) is that it's like the show "Survivor" except dialled up to 11 when it comes to the scheming and backstabbing. Pretty loving much, I have a shitload of stories I could tell, and they';re all super super unbelievable to anyone outside of Asia because they are injected with Krazy Korean Kulture. source = was a professor in korea for a bunch of years
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Oct 24, 2016 03:31
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Blistex posted:Not likely. He thinks I'm insane for remaining on SA after a helldump goon phoned my place of work and tried to get me fired. honestly its sad that we all stay here, I feel sad that haier is coming to terms with his desire to leave....it almost feels like the ending to david the gnome. Also during the great GBS reboot this thread was often pointed to as a place where the moderation wasn't agreed with, so I think it got alittle breathing room.
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Oct 24, 2016 03:33
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ladron posted:Pretty loving much, I have a shitload of stories I could tell, and they';re all super super unbelievable to anyone outside of Asia because they are injected with Krazy Korean Kulture. 
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Oct 24, 2016 03:34
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nah, I feel bad enough coming in this here China and ranting about Korea like a crazy neighbor and, no offense to them, but the Korea thread seems kinda full of super cliquey Korean apologists
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Oct 24, 2016 03:35
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ladron posted:nah, I feel bad enough coming in this here China and ranting about Korea like a crazy neighbor Nah man, after that setup you gotta at least post one or two.
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Oct 24, 2016 03:48
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china is rightfully corea's anyway, is always the answer
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Oct 24, 2016 03:56
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If that blogger ChinaBounder poo poo his pants on the reg he'd be Haier
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Oct 24, 2016 03:59
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ladron posted:nah, I feel bad enough coming in this here China and ranting about Korea like a crazy neighbor there's this thread, there's the japan thread, you might as well start a korea.jpg thread
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Oct 24, 2016 04:08
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I think it works better caught between the china and japan threads without its own proper space
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Oct 24, 2016 04:13
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I agree. And in non-joking ways there just really isn't enough unique stuff to post, most of the lol Korea stuff is pretty similar to what goes on in China. The only special thing I can think of is the superbly hosed up education system and that's just sad for everyone involved. E: Backstabbing professors sounds fun though post post. Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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Oct 24, 2016 04:18
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is there a japan thread in GBS and i've somehow not seen it? south east asia fascinates me, and I'd like to see seoul, japan, a few other places honestly, even china, but I really do get a kick otu of reading stories about expats or other people living in this places with their stories of culture clash and disillusionment.
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Oct 24, 2016 04:22
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Stringent posted:Nah man, after that setup you gotta at least post one or two. heh. ok. I was doing research for my phd at this one university where the woman in charge of the foreigners was the daughter of the president of the university and could basically do whatever she wanted eg she hired her hairdresser as a professor for the "Cosmetology" department (yes, such a thing exists, you don't know korea, you MUST have a degree in SOMETHING)..anyhow I had to go to this dinner/drinking american thanksgiving thing for the foreigners, because you see, I am a foreigner, so I must be there, even though I didn't work there. So. The dinner gets lined up buffet style; she had sent someone to seoul to the military base to buy turkeys and trimmings, like a 2 hour round trip, which was pretty awesome. So all this food, gets spread out on this table, most of it still warm. The foreigners haven't eaten all day because this thing has been hyped up and they are starving. First, before anyone can eat, this woman shows a powerpoint and a video about her department, which 99% of the people there work in and don't want to see a video about, in really broken English, because even tho she is in charge of the English speaking staff and the required English classes every student needs to take, she doesn't loving speak it. while the video is going on, everybody is getting shitfaced. Angry shitfaced, which exists in korea in a way you can never understand unless you've been there. Angry shitfaced on soju, the angriest of liquors (sorry tequila and vodka, but it's true) on totally empty stomachs. Everybody includes this woman. Finally, she finishes, after -no poo poo- 90 minutes, and everyone beelines for this buffet for their ice cold food. I don't want to seem unappreciative, I personally hadn't had turkey at this point in like 5 years, and it was way cool to buy it and send her assistant to go get it, like an hour away, but really. so, angry drunk people are angrily eating cold turkey and gravy and stuffing like it's thanksgiving in 50s mississippi and you brought someone of a different race to dinner. This woman, who is also shitfaced, is not eating, just drinking more and more, because she is better than the foreigners and won't eat their foreigner food, which she told her assistant multiple times, right in front of me, and her assistant reminded her each time that I was right there and spoke Korean too. She sends somebody to go get some kimchi from somewhere, and then doesn't touch it, just drinks more. I walk around, mingling with the foreigners, who, having decimated the turkey, are getting even more shitfaced, but in a sleepy, western style way. This is why I didn't see what started the fight between the woman in charge and the assistant, but it got real loud real quick, and I ran over there. So, this 40 something woman, who was shitfaced, had been forcing her 20 something assistants to keep up with her drinking, and I could pretty much tell that she was a class one seasoned alcoholic from the moment I had met her. The assistant, still having a functioning liver and dreams of a future, had fallen behind, and this woman was ranting at her, insulting her lineage, her big head, her small eyes, etc, old school korean style dressing down. All this girl can do is just standing bow and apologize, which I guess makes her dizzy, because she starts puking everywhere. She tries to get to the bathroom, which is, you guessed it, across the room, through all these foreigners who are now staring at this whole scene. The other woman is still yelling at her, so she covers her mouth to try and contain the puke while crossing all these tables of foreigners. The increased pressure causes her to spe3w vomit between her finger and also spray diarrhea against the confines of her pristine whiote panties, which immediately get full and leak poo poo all down her leg, which popping out from under her minskirt like a stink party favor. Reminder - these foreigners hadn't eaten all day, got drunk, powerslammed a few turkeys, then drank some more. And now there is a making GBS threads, puking, 20something korean girl spraying poo poo and vomit among them like a lawn sprinkler. Chaos. I look at the woman in charge, and she's eating kimchi by grabbing handfuls of it and stuffing it into her mouth, drunking having most of it fall back out, ignoring everything else. I was like "gently caress this, I don't even work here" and bolted. I got called into a meeting about this a few days later, but it was kinda boring and nothing really happened, just typical korean bullshit and ignoring of the facts, and this post is getting long, so I'll stop here. Sorry that's not really an academia story. Satisfied? EDIT: Koramei posted:I think it works better caught between the china and japan threads without its own proper space hahahahaha
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hemophilia posted:is there a japan thread in GBS and i've somehow not seen it? south east asia fascinates me, and I'd like to see seoul, japan, a few other places honestly, even china, but I really do get a kick otu of reading stories about expats or other people living in this places with their stories of culture clash and disillusionment. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3695572
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paperchaseguy posted:soylent chinese is made from people! People joke, but I remember this being all over the internet and in some newspapers when people figured it out (forgive the source): http://www.naturalnews.com/032718_L-cysteine_commercial_bread.html quote:True fact: A common ingredient in commercial breads is derived from human hair harvested in China EDIT: Enjoy your supermarket bagels. I guess we are all a little bit Chinese, eh?
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Oct 24, 2016 04:31
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ladron posted:while the video is going on, everybody is getting shitfaced. Angry shitfaced, which exists in korea in a way you can never understand unless you've been there. Angry shitfaced on soju, the angriest of liquors (sorry tequila and vodka, but it's true) on totally empty stomachs. Everybody includes this woman.
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Oct 24, 2016 04:37
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ladron posted:
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Oct 24, 2016 04:43
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Yes post more stories
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Oct 24, 2016 04:47
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rear end cobra posted:Yes post more stories maybe I should be like 50foot any or whoever and just start my own thread and post increasingly unbelievable stories until enough people call me out on my bullshit that I fake my own internet death and publicly announce via my alt account as my brother. EDIT- someone start a "Strange but True Tales from Across the Sea" thread where we take turns regaling each other with stories about how we don't understand 5,000 years of culture... Actually, that's probably this thread. ladron fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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hemophilia posted:is there a japan thread in GBS and i've somehow not seen it? south east asia fascinates me, and I'd like to see seoul, japan, a few other places honestly, even china, but I really do get a kick otu of reading stories about expats or other people living in this places with their stories of culture clash and disillusionment. Japan is sufficiently stable, cosmopolitan (at least in the big cities), and good that you're unlikely to find stories in the same vein as Chinar or Corea
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