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Spider-Man 2 was great in world where we didn't have much to choose from. Now it's a middle of the road film with a wet blanket lead, a terribly cast lead actress, and a pretty great villain.
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Oct 24, 2016 04:31
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Gaz-L posted:I'm more amazed that all of Raimi's Spider-Man films are so humourless. JK Simmons is the only performer to consistently get laughs. (Well, him and Bruce Campbell) Spider-Man is half soap opera in origin, so it's kind of appropriate.
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Oct 24, 2016 04:35
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X-O posted:Spider-Man 2 was great in world where we didn't have much to choose from. Now it's a middle of the road film with a wet blanket lead, a terribly cast lead actress, and a pretty great villain. It still has one of the best action set pieces in any comic book film to date imo. I remember seeing the train scene in theaters and being completely overwhelmed by what I was seeing. And Tobey's weird looking angry face sold me on him exerting himself to his limits.
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Oct 24, 2016 04:54
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teagone posted:It still has one of the best action set pieces in any comic book film to date imo. I remember seeing the train scene in theaters and being completely overwhelmed by what I was seeing. And Tobey's weird looking angry face sold me on him exerting himself to his limits. One sequence does not redeem a film fill of Dunst.
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Oct 24, 2016 04:56
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Rhyno posted:Tobey is incapable of delivering lines with humor. The ONE time he succeeded with the right attitude and it was a gay joke so not so good. I actually think his voice acting in the SM2 video game is actually good, and it is too bad that it didn't transcend to film.
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Oct 24, 2016 04:57
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Rhyno posted:One sequence does not redeem a film fill of Dunst. I guess; I didn't really like Dunst either. Raimi did gently caress up by not casting Topher Grace and Bryce Dallas Howard first.
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Oct 24, 2016 05:04
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X-O posted:Spider-Man 2 was great in world where we didn't have much to choose from. Now it's a middle of the road film with a wet blanket lead, a terribly cast lead actress, and a pretty great villain. This is it. People remember Molina being great and forget the rest. It even has the cliche bit where the hero gives up and throws his stuff away, but then is brought back. As is said, it was great when there was the Spider-Man films and like Daredevil, but now with stuff like Winter Soldier out there, its okay at best.
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Oct 24, 2016 05:05
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Kirsten Dunst is a great actress, the problems with MJ were script and direction-related.twistedmentat posted:It even has the cliche bit where the hero gives up and throws his stuff away, but then is brought back. You mean the cliche that SPIDER-MAN INVENTED?
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Oct 24, 2016 05:51
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twistedmentat posted:This is it. People remember Molina being great and forget the rest. It even has the cliche bit where the hero gives up and throws his stuff away, but then is brought back. Dude that's like Spider-Man 101 though (or Spider-Man 50 to be exact  ). Everyone knows that SPIDER-MAN NO MORE cover. In this day and age where people are so giddy whenever praise Marvel over DC for "embracing their comic roots" or whatever bullshit gets written in movie reviews and/or nerd thinkpieces, I'm always surprised to see the Raimi movies get knocked because they match the overwrought drama of a superhero comic perfectly, along with some great fights for early 2000s CGI. Like sure, Spider-Man didn't crack enough Jokes Per Second to satisfy your personal quota (i would've liked more too, fwiw) but they are good films  Well... 2 of them are, at least 
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Oct 24, 2016 05:55
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teagone posted:I guess; I didn't really like Dunst either. Raimi did gently caress up by not casting Topher Grace and Bryce Dallas Howard first. Neither of them were on anyone's radar at that point really. Grace was in That 70's Show but he was being overshadowed by everyone else. And BDH was a nobody, she didn't even have a major role until two years later. It's a shame they didn't reboot the franchise with them in 2007.
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Oct 24, 2016 05:56
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It's weird to me how people blame Tobey Maguire for that version of Spider-man being too dour. You guys know he didn't write the script, right?
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Oct 24, 2016 06:06
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Lurdiak posted:Alfred Molina directed by Sam Raimi, what's not to love? every other thing in that movie also octopus as a rando sympathetic scientist controlled by his tentacles is crazy lame
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Oct 24, 2016 06:08
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Why don't you guys just go back to talking about how good Ant-man is.
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Oct 24, 2016 06:10
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The Raimi Spider-Man movies feel like a blend of Hollywood crossed with broadway, and I love it. Spider-Man 2 might not track with newer fans, but its a good time capsule.Most superhero movies have a limited shelf life, and should be appreciated with the time it was filmed in mind.
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Oct 24, 2016 06:15
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Open Marriage Night posted:The Raimi Spider-Man movies feel like a blend of Hollywood crossed with broadway, and I love it. Spider-Man 2 might not track with newer fans, but its a good time capsule.Most superhero movies have a limited shelf life, and should be appreciated with the time it was filmed in mind. I didn't like it at the time either!
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Oct 24, 2016 06:16
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Lurdiak posted:It's weird to me how people blame Tobey Maguire for that version of Spider-man being too dour. You guys know he didn't write the script, right? His performance is lovely and that's what I take issue with.
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Oct 24, 2016 06:24
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The first Rami movie had Hero by Nickleback on it's soundtrack, so that redeems it of any sins imo.
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Oct 24, 2016 06:29
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WickedHate posted:The first Rami movie had Hero by Nickleback on it's soundtrack, so that redeems it of any sins imo. Is this real Am i in some horrible dream
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Oct 24, 2016 06:40
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WickedHate posted:The first Rami movie had Hero by Nickleback on it's soundtrack, so that redeems it of any sins imo. Look WH no one cares what you do on your own time but there are some shameful secrets that you keep to yourself even in this, the forum named for shameful secrets TwoPair fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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Oct 24, 2016 07:52
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As a young nerd in the early 2000's, SM and SM2 came at exactly the right time and they were fun as hell to see in theaters. However, I haven't watched them in a decade and I'm afraid they won't hold up.
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Oct 24, 2016 08:19
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Hero wasn't even Nickelback you nerds, it was just their lead singer.
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Oct 24, 2016 08:33
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Spider-man stole that guy's pizza.
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Oct 24, 2016 08:48
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People hating on Dunst is weird. She wasn't allowed to even do anything in 1 and 2. She did things in three and they weren't good but it doesn't effect the other two. Plus she is still better than whatever the gently caress Emma Stone was.
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Oct 24, 2016 09:41
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Big Mean Jerk posted:As a young nerd in the early 2000's, SM and SM2 came at exactly the right time and they were fun as hell to see in theaters. However, I haven't watched them in a decade and I'm afraid they won't hold up. Two holds up! One? Ehhhhhhhhh.
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Oct 24, 2016 09:42
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I tried watching SM1 a couple years back and I just couldn't make it through. The dialogue is loving awful.
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Oct 24, 2016 15:09
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Spider-Man 2 is definitely top 5 Superhero movie material. I don't agree with Lurdiak often, but I'd also take it over any of the MCU stuff.
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Oct 24, 2016 15:35
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I'm not sure Spider-Man 2 is one of my top superhero movies (but I'd include stuff like Incredibles in there) but it's easily the best Spider-Man film.
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Oct 24, 2016 15:37
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WickedHate posted:The first Rami movie had Hero by Nickleback on it's soundtrack, so that redeems it of any sins imo. You're the one who's out WickedHate. OUT OF YOUR MIND!!!
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Oct 24, 2016 16:06
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ImpAtom posted:I'm not sure Spider-Man 2 is one of my top superhero movies (but I'd include stuff like Incredibles in there) but it's easily the best Spider-Man film. Homecoming has promise, but for now I'd agree that SM2 is the best Spider-Man movie.
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Oct 24, 2016 17:16
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Roth posted:You're the one who's out WickedHate. OUT OF YOUR MIND!!! FINISH IT!
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Oct 24, 2016 17:24
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Oh god I forgot about that. That prayer scene is maybe the worst thing in the history of cinema and yeah I've seen the Catwoman basketball scene. Rosemary Harris should have to return every award she's ever won. No wait I forgot the Franco/Dunst cooking dance scene.
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Oct 24, 2016 17:27
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Aphrodite posted:No wait I forgot the Franco/Dunst cooking dance scene. The what?
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Oct 24, 2016 17:45
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In the 3rd movie, when Franco has brain damage there's a dance scene as they make omelettes or something.
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Oct 24, 2016 17:45
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And the pie is so, so good.
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Oct 24, 2016 17:47
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Yeah James Franco being a weird fucker is the only good thing about 3. That and the spider sense line.
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Oct 24, 2016 17:56
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There's lots of good things in Spider-man 3, they're just in a jumbled mess of a movie where one scene has very little to do with the next.
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Oct 24, 2016 18:02
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The Sandman stuff belonged in a better movie
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Oct 24, 2016 18:04
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Aphrodite posted:Oh god I forgot about that. Whoa whoa there... Rosemary Harris is easily one of the best things about the whole Raimi series! Not liking the 'deliver us from evil' lines is having a problem with the cornball genre script, not her delivery. Her role isn't as obviously hammy as the Goblin or Jameson so the couple times it happens stands out more but she does as well as Dafoe and Simmons do in bringing everything she's got.
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Oct 24, 2016 18:17
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Aphrodite posted:Oh god I forgot about that. You and I are enemies now.
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Oct 24, 2016 18:22
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I'm going to scare the gently caress out of your grandma aunt.
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Oct 24, 2016 18:23
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