NBA N/V: Buddy Hield, Feral Chucker

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Stagger_Lee: Mar 25, 2009

I feel like someone let their 4-year-old child name the "Hospital of Special Surgery." I would demand treatment at a facility named by a grown-up.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 04:40

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 23:02

milk milk lemonade: Jul 29, 2016

Niwrad posted:

NFL ratings are down but their crappy Thursday night game still crushes an NBA Conference Finals game. Heck, their Thursday Night numbers are in line with what the Finals used to get a few years back before Curry and Lebron went at it. NFL is in a different league than everyone else when it comes to ratings.

Their ratings are great comparatively speaking. But the NBA as a league has kept their buzz positive and focused on the on court product. The NFL has been blundering from one controversy to another - some serious (concussions) and some extremely ridiculous (Deflategate). When was the last time the NBA had something happen on the level of missteps the NFL makes a couple times a year? The Palace fight? And even then they mitigated it the way a competent organization would.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 05:39

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

milk milk lemonade posted:

Their ratings are great comparatively speaking. But the NBA as a league has kept their buzz positive and focused on the on court product. The NFL has been blundering from one controversy to another - some serious (concussions) and some extremely ridiculous (Deflategate). When was the last time the NBA had something happen on the level of missteps the NFL makes a couple times a year? The Palace fight? And even then they mitigated it the way a competent organization would.

The NBA's fixers, and their commissioners(Silver, and Stern) are/were really really really good at their job. The NBA was able to bury that ref fixing games and betting scandal with the quickness and managed to get people to legit believe it was just that one dude doing it.

Also way less players to have to worry about.(15 per team vs like 55 per team or whatever).

To quote David Stern during his last CBA negotiations. "I know where all the bodies are buried".

# ? Oct 24, 2016 07:16

Lessail: Apr 1, 2011; tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again

p.s. help my grapes are so sour!

It's good to know I'm not alone in wishing the NBA would be punished by viewers for having the ability for something dumb as poo poo as Durant to the Warriors to happen

We all know deep in our hearts it won't happen, but it is nice to dream

# ? Oct 24, 2016 08:35

Strawberry Panda: Nov 4, 2007; Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP

Stagger_Lee posted:

I feel like someone let their 4-year-old child name the "Hospital of Special Surgery." I would demand treatment at a facility named by a grown-up.

Literally thought it was a parody post after seeing that name.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 08:37

Spacebump: Dec 24, 2003; Dallas Mavericks: Generations

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/790432836159279105
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/790433869652570112
I wonder what roll he was expecting.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 09:36

Hand Knit: Oct 24, 2005; Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

attackmole posted:

Aaaaaand, he's had surgery and is out indefinitely.

Guess it's time for the Pascal Siakam show.

His ascent into fan favourite begins now.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 09:46

Lockback: Sep 3, 2006; All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Spacebump posted:

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/790432836159279105
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/790433869652570112
I wonder what roll he was expecting.

Player on the 2009 Lakers. China didn't get many full brodcast Laker games last season, apparently.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 11:35

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

It's Hospital FOR Special Surgery!!!

# ? Oct 24, 2016 12:05

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Spacebump posted:

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/790432836159279105
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/790433869652570112
I wonder what roll he was expecting.

He probably didn't expect "probably not good enough to make a team that won 17 games last year."

Like he might have made the team just based on the fact that Thomas Robinson looks like he's thrown in the towel and MWP is in his 40s but he had almost no chance of hitting even his lowest incentives.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 12:09

Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

Lessail posted:

It's good to know I'm not alone in wishing the NBA would be punished by viewers for having the ability for something dumb as poo poo as Durant to the Warriors to happen

We all know deep in our hearts it won't happen, but it is nice to dream

You dream about the nba being punished by viewers for a player leaving a team?

# ? Oct 24, 2016 12:17

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Spacebump posted:

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/790432836159279105
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/790433869652570112
I wonder what roll he was expecting.

Probably a nat 20

# ? Oct 24, 2016 13:14

Hashtag Banterzone: Dec 8, 2005; Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM

Lessail posted:

It's good to know I'm not alone in wishing the NBA would be punished by viewers for having the ability for something dumb as poo poo as Durant to the Warriors to happen

We all know deep in our hearts it won't happen, but it is nice to dream

I heard that way back in NBA history 3 all-stars got together during the summer and all decided to take pay cuts to play together. Can someone C/D?

# ? Oct 24, 2016 13:51

Niwrad: Jul 1, 2008

milk milk lemonade posted:

Their ratings are great comparatively speaking. But the NBA as a league has kept their buzz positive and focused on the on court product. The NFL has been blundering from one controversy to another - some serious (concussions) and some extremely ridiculous (Deflategate). When was the last time the NBA had something happen on the level of missteps the NFL makes a couple times a year? The Palace fight? And even then they mitigated it the way a competent organization would.

They had a ref who was fixing games and an owner who was openly racist.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 14:20

alansmithee: Jan 25, 2007; Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Dexo posted:

The NBA's fixers, and their commissioners(Silver, and Stern) are/were really really really good at their job. The NBA was able to bury that ref fixing games and betting scandal with the quickness and managed to get people to legit believe it was just that one dude doing it.

Also way less players to have to worry about.(15 per team vs like 55 per team or whatever).

To quote David Stern during his last CBA negotiations. "I know where all the bodies are buried".

I still don't think Stern was that good, outside of the 80's where he put in rules that stopped teams from sabotaging themselves. I think the ref scandal blew over so quick because a bunch of folks already thought the NBA was fixed rather than anything Stern did (although he did push the whole narrative about it being one isolated dude). Look at how much the popularity dipped when Jordan left (both times). Jordan was obviously a phenomenon, but the fact that Stern seemed unable to buoy the popularity of the league until Lebron came around and started winning is telling. Honestly Stern in hindsight seems very similar to Goodell.

Silver though I think is doing a solid job.

Lessail posted:

It's good to know I'm not alone in wishing the NBA would be punished by viewers for having the ability for something dumb as poo poo as Durant to the Warriors to happen

We all know deep in our hearts it won't happen, but it is nice to dream

If history's any indication, they'll actually have more viewers.

Also I still don't get how it's supposedly fine for GMs to rip off other GMs to build up a title team, but players deciding they want to work together to win is somehow a bad thing.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 14:25

Lockback: Sep 3, 2006; All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Niwrad posted:

They had a ref who was fixing games and an owner who was openly racist.

The Donaghy thing was almost 10 years ago, and the NBA kicked the racist owner to the curb in a way that no other league would have the balls to do. How Donald Sterling was handled should be considered a glowing high point in the Adam Silver era.

I don't think that effects the viewership one way or another by a huge degree. The fact that NFL is trying to fight social media and keep it's product walled up is probably hurting itself way more.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 14:28

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Today is the last day for cuts, I think. Pels will probably release one of Alonzo Gee or Lance Stephenson. Lance is the likely better player for this team (though the gap is smaller than I would like), but Gee has apparently become a close friend of AD's. I don't believe the Pels have made a worse roster move when a better one was available due to "AD friendship" before and I hope they don't start now.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 14:30

alansmithee: Jan 25, 2007; Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Lockback posted:

The Donaghy thing was almost 10 years ago, and the NBA kicked the racist owner to the curb in a way that no other league would have the balls to do. How Donald Sterling was handled should be considered a glowing high point in the Adam Silver era.

I don't think that effects the viewership one way or another by a huge degree. The fact that NFL is trying to fight social media and keep it's product walled up is probably hurting itself way more.

Yeah, for whatever reason the league's offices seem to want to centralize everything and work against engaging with fans. The recent restrictions on what teams can post on social media accounts is just baffling.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 14:32

Salvor_Hardin: Sep 13, 2005; I want to go protest.; Nap Ghost

Kibner posted:

Yay, some official word from the Holiday camp:

https://twitter.com/GlushonSM/status/790311852395728896

Wait, he named his daughter "Jrue Tyler"??

# ? Oct 24, 2016 14:52

AggressivelyStupid: Jan 9, 2012

Hashtag Banterzone posted:

I heard that way back in NBA history 3 all-stars got together during the summer and all decided to take pay cuts to play together. Can someone C/D?

False equivalence

# ? Oct 24, 2016 15:11

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Salvor_Hardin posted:

Wait, he named his daughter "Jrue Tyler"??

# ? Oct 24, 2016 15:17

Tae: Oct 24, 2010; Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

alansmithee posted:

Also I still don't get how it's supposedly fine for GMs to rip off other GMs to build up a title team, but players deciding they want to work together to win is somehow a bad thing.

Irrational sports fans

# ? Oct 24, 2016 15:26

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/790551597411504128

# ? Oct 24, 2016 15:36

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

I laughed:

(from http://fansided.com/2016/10/24/memphis-grizzlies-still-grinding/)

# ? Oct 24, 2016 15:42

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

I'm just basically dumping things from my Twitter timeline that may be of interest.

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/790562079539290112

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And the Pels waive Gee. Looks like Lance has made the roster.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 15:45

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

This article spoke to my heart: http://fansided.com/2016/10/24/detroit-pistons-celebrate-mediocrity/

quote:

{...}

Your team is probably not going to win the NBA Championship this year. In fact, it�s probably more improbable than it�s ever been in the past. This season has the potential to exhibit more dominance than we�ve seen, maybe ever. Dominance requires a lot of things getting dominated, and the dominated tend to outnumber the dominant. The team you like most is probably part of that lesser group, and that probably sucks.

It�s good to lower your expectations sometimes. The 2016-2017 season is probably one of those times. I�m not saying this to hurt you, I�m saying this to help.

{...}

I don�t want to say there is one right way to enjoy basketball, but whatever my mindset was while watching Darko is right for me. I remember the little ripples of joy every time I saw him pull down a rebound in garbage time or seeing that he hit one of two free throws in the Free Press box score. It was my first lesson in finding little moments of joy in something that should, in essence, be entertaining. Some people like horror films. Some people like to analyze them. I like The Lion King. I would have been cool with the movie ending after �Hakuna Matata.�

{...}

You know what else is cool? The second runner up in the historic 2016 dunk contest Andre Drummond is on the team. And he�s my favorite. Either he is or LeBron is, but who really keeps track of these things?

And you know what else is cool? Ish Smith. He might fit an important need and his name is fun to say.

And you know what else is cool? Boban. He�s really big and foreign.

And you know what else is cool? I don�t know yet, but something cool might happen. Isn�t that cool?

{...]

# ? Oct 24, 2016 15:57

Jack's Flow: Jun 6, 2003; Life, friends, is boring

I'm jumping on the Devin Booker bandwagon while there is still some room. I love his game.

edit:

Also:

quote:

Overall, public officials from Oakland, Alameda County and the joint authority they formed to run Oracle Arena and neighboring Oakland Coliseum have claimed more than 7,000 tickets to Warriors� games at a total face value of $7.8 million over the last three seasons, records show.

Local politicians have access to those tickets through clauses in the contracts that allow the Warriors, Raiders and A�s to play at the publicly owned Oakland arena and coliseum; there are three luxury boxes in each facility reserved for their use. State regulations exempt the tickets from the standard political gift limit of $400 annually as long as they�re used for a �public purpose,� and the local agencies have drawn up a broadly defined list of nine allowable uses, such as inspecting the arena, promoting attendance to games, and recognizing local children for doing well in school.

Officials who claim the tickets are required to fill out forms stating the purpose for which they were used, but no one polices the forms to make sure they�re following the rules. The disclosure records show nonprofits, schools and community groups received the public agencies� free Warriors tickets about 24 percent of the time while politicians and government employees kept the seats for themselves at least 56 percent of the time. Other times it�s impossible to tell where the tickets ended up because the �public purpose� was listed simply as �promote arena attendance� or not listed at all.

�Every month, they (the city) hand us an envelope with a bunch of tickets,� said Oakland Councilman Noel Gallo, who reported taking $22,000 in Warriors tickets. Although Gallo�s forms state he took the tickets in his official capacity to provide oversight of the arena, he said he gave nearly all of them to family members.

�This is certainly a perk for elected officials and city staff, no one can argue otherwise,� said Oakland City Attorney Barbara Parker, who has taken $314,000 worth of tickets the past three years. She said the city�s ticket policy �is worth reviewing.�

http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/10/...family-cronies/

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quote:

Valle gave four tickets worth $10,000 each for Game 7 of last season�s NBA Finals to an Oakland artist and county arts commissioner, Andrew Johnstone, who two years earlier had painted a portrait of Valle�s wife and presented it publicly.

�It was just a gift, a lovely gesture, �Johnstone said of the tickets. �We�re family friends. It was out of the blue. I�m not even a huge basketball fan.� Valle did not return repeated phone messages.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 16:09

Hashtag Banterzone: Dec 8, 2005; Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM

For some reason I thought that GSW was going to have a lot of trouble keeping KD next summer with cap holds and stuff, but it's pretty straightforward for them to keep KD and Curry and still have $19m to re-sign Livingston and Iggy or go after other free agents. That's a little depressing.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 16:13

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

Kibner posted:

https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/790551597411504128

Didn't international League Pass basically have all of this already? It definitely had arena feeds during timeout/halftime which are amazing.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 16:37

got some chores tonight: Feb 18, 2012; honk honk whats for lunch...

(CURRY)

# ? Oct 24, 2016 16:44

Redgrendel2001: Sep 1, 2006; you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

James Young made the Celtics 15 man roster.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 16:56

Spacebump: Dec 24, 2003; Dallas Mavericks: Generations

There are a bunch of NBA twitter emoji now. Sadly, they don't show up when the tweets are embedded here.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 17:02

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

leftist heap posted:

Didn't international League Pass basically have all of this already? It definitely had arena feeds during timeout/halftime which are amazing.

ILP is done by a different company, uses a different client, has different packages, different rates, and even had more feed choices than LPBB did until recently.

It's a completely different service and what it does has no bearing on the domestic version or vice-versa.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 17:03

Cash Monet: Apr 5, 2009

Niwrad posted:

They had a ref who was fixing games and an owner who was openly racist.

Its only been, what, 2 years since Sterling got booted? Feels longer.

# ? Oct 24, 2016 17:17

Redgrendel2001: Sep 1, 2006; you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

Shaq is gonna die of a heart attack and no lockouts until the mid-2020s.

https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/790569045837787136

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/790587919752957952

# ? Oct 24, 2016 17:19

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

Meanwhile in important NBA news

https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/790569045837787136

I hope this means that Shaq's pro gaming teams will have donut sponsorships.

e: ^^^^ :argh:

# ? Oct 24, 2016 17:20

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

RJ Hunter got waived. Anyone looking at a shooter who can't shoot?

# ? Oct 24, 2016 17:22

Tae: Oct 24, 2010; Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

So the biggest question is, will the new CBA still come with an amnesty?

# ? Oct 24, 2016 17:21

Cool Buff Man: Jul 30, 2006; bitch

WhyteRyce posted:

RJ Hunter got waived. Anyone looking at a shooter who can't shoot?

Waived on his birthday, rough go

# ? Oct 24, 2016 17:23

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 23:02

Redgrendel2001: Sep 1, 2006; you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

Tae posted:

So the biggest question is, will the new CBA still come with an amnesty?

That's been my big question. I'd bet yes.

Also, Yao status: still huge.

https://twitter.com/PGA_JohnDaly/status/789815822701080576

# ? Oct 24, 2016 17:24

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