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Streaming their events live would cannibalize their main source of income.
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Oct 24, 2016 19:32
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Roque11 posted:This Flo Sports deal will mean more money and exposure for indie wrestlers. Now they won't have to bother with going to WWE. Looks like WWE's big streak of signing I die names from around the world ends in 2016. Hachi machi
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Oct 24, 2016 19:40
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realistically what promotions could be on here without ditching their streaming service.
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Oct 24, 2016 19:43
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Suplex Liberace posted:realistically what promotions could be on here without ditching their streaming service. Probably ROH, since they only really show stuff on their website anyways, and let's be honest, their online PPV abilities are shaky. Plus, any Gabe projects like Dragon Gate USA. WWN Streaming is a thing, but I'm sure he'd be willing to simply just add his content to this channel for the right price.
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Oct 24, 2016 20:02
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https://twitter.com/ZemaTNA/status/790626078775734272
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Oct 24, 2016 20:03
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Suplex Liberace posted:realistically what promotions could be on here without ditching their streaming service. ROH, TNA (I don't know what their agreement is with Fight Network for the next time Dixie shirks a debt), CMLL, AAA, AJPW, DG (could but doubt it with partial ownership being their TV network), Big Japan, Zero One, W-1, PWG (unlikely), AAW, PWX, Rev Pro, Beyond, probably a bunch of other japanese, american or european indies that I can't think of.
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Oct 24, 2016 20:14
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Honestly I would be shocked if any Japanese or Mexican promotions were on here, but I would like to be surprised.
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Oct 24, 2016 20:16
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NotQuiteQuentin posted:ROH, TNA (I don't know what their agreement is with Fight Network for the next time Dixie shirks a debt), CMLL, AAA, AJPW, DG (could but doubt it with partial ownership being their TV network), Big Japan, Zero One, W-1, PWG (unlikely), AAW, PWX, Rev Pro, Beyond, probably a bunch of other japanese, american or european indies that I can't think of. I'd be really excited for BJPW, Z-1 (particularly the Hashimoto years) and DG. AAW, PWX, and Rev Pro already have deals with Highspots. Beyond has their own Roku channel, although I'm sure they could be financially enticed.
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Oct 24, 2016 20:24
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if I can stream AAW with a no-commentary option I'm in
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Oct 24, 2016 20:26
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I don't care until ESW (RIP Wicked J) is available on it.
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Oct 24, 2016 20:32
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From what Dave's saying it sounds like they haven't talked to many orgs yet at all, much less firmed up agreements. Like both Dave and Wade imply, this is a cool thing for the industry and will allow smaller orgs to get a cash infusion and a reliable platform on which to put iPPV's and archived footage if they've not already one of their own, but as a consumer that price point is crazy to me as an ongoing thing. Where I'd use it is if I wanted to watch a specific event, say, from ROH, and bought a month of Flo instead of paying for an iPPV. An ongoing sub doesn't seem very worth it to me, but maybe if you're a super-hardcore fan that somehow doesn't have enough wrestling content already, it might be attractive.
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Oct 24, 2016 20:34
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I'd be shocked if it wasn't going to include promotions that are already on streaming services.
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Oct 24, 2016 20:35
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so FloSports had WWE invest, knew WWE was looking into streaming indies, created an arm of FloSports to compete against that and decided it was wise to announce it before actually have much of anything talked through, let alone finalized. That's really wise. And  if Gabe had talks with them about this without tipping Hunter off
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Oct 24, 2016 20:43
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the idea of using wwe's own money to keep a wrestler they've been chasing for a while out of their hands even longer owns though
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Oct 24, 2016 20:45
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I'm approaching it like any other startup, ie a long shot over the long haul. I'm not expecting an amalgamation of cult promotions with short-term cash boosts to sustain momentum as essentially a federation of feds, when they each put on shows on, what, a monthly basis? There would be such a glut of exhibition wrestling. If ROH could get the shot in the arm from this that it's needed for years (and they got a better booker c: ) then they'd have a real product that could break out of the enthusiast market. Regular cult pro wrestling plus coverage of all the sports that most people don't see outside of the Olympics sounds like a shaky proposition. A good question to ask is, what's keeping Lucha Underground from profitability? Is inaccessibility their problem? If they dropped the network straitjacket and went straight to a $20 per month subscription TV model, would they flourish? If so, then there's probably reason to be bullish about this announcement. Otherwise? LU is the most well-made, coherent and distinct product on the indies, and if it can't sell, then what chance does FloSlam have?
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Oct 24, 2016 20:45
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Basic Chunnel posted:A good question to ask is, what's keeping Lucha Underground from profitability? Is inaccessibility their problem? If they dropped the network straitjacket and went straight to a $20 per month subscription TV model, would they flourish? If so, then there's probably reason to be bullish about this announcement. Otherwise? LU is the most well-made, coherent and distinct product on the indies, and if it can't sell, then what chance does FloSlam have? High production costs, low ad revenue, no gates, limited viewership, dealing with the 2nd worst NA promotion for most of their talent. iTunes already sells the seasons for like $40 and they don't put out enough content to justify $20, much less $10 a week.
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Oct 24, 2016 20:56
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HOW'S THE FEED http://www.flosports.tv/flosports-announces-five-year-agreement-with-wwnlive-to-live-stream-all-events-on-floslam-tv/
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Oct 24, 2016 22:17
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Absolutely giving that a look for the Mania weekend shows
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Oct 24, 2016 22:23
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Basic Chunnel posted:I'm approaching it like any other startup, ie a long shot over the long haul. I'm not expecting an amalgamation of cult promotions with short-term cash boosts to sustain momentum as essentially a federation of feds, when they each put on shows on, what, a monthly basis? There would be such a glut of exhibition wrestling. If ROH could get the shot in the arm from this that it's needed for years (and they got a better booker c: ) then they'd have a real product that could break out of the enthusiast market. Regular cult pro wrestling plus coverage of all the sports that most people don't see outside of the Olympics sounds like a shaky proposition. Once I see the actual line up, I'll make my decision. Right now I'm pretty much paying cable prices on the amount of streaming action I've got going: -WWE Network -NJPWWorld -Stardom(the pajama party interviews are really interesting, ok??) -NWA Classics -Progress so if I could get a service that bundles those+others for around $60/mo mark, I'm ahead. Right now, there's a dearth of information and it mostly looks like hearsay. I know that Flo is desperately looking for NOC tech to handle the technical parts of their streaming stuff. That's a bad sign.
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Oct 24, 2016 22:24
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Call me a Mecca poster all you want, but both Keller and Meltzer's comments back up what I am saying.
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Oct 24, 2016 22:29
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Roque11 posted:Call me a Mecca poster all you want, but both Keller and Meltzer's comments back up what I am saying. Roque11 posted:Looks like WWE's big streak of signing I die names from around the world ends in 2016. Gonna need some citations, a magnifying glass, and a compass to discover where they back this up, even ignoring the "I die" typo
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Oct 24, 2016 22:35
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rovert posted:HOW'S THE FEED http://www.flosports.tv/flosports-announces-five-year-agreement-with-wwnlive-to-live-stream-all-events-on-floslam-tv/ Gabe's a retard and now this is going to gently caress up his relationship with Hunter
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Oct 24, 2016 22:36
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Basic Chunnel posted:I'm approaching it like any other startup, ie a long shot over the long haul. A better approach would be that they're starting up, looking to acquire the rights to any name indy, and then turn around and cash out by selling it all to WWE.
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Oct 24, 2016 22:52
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We should start an indie now while this gold rush is on. I wish I had enough money to be a money mark
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Oct 24, 2016 22:55
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Chris James 2 posted:Absolutely giving that a look for the Mania weekend shows
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Oct 24, 2016 23:01
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Chris James 2 posted:Gonna need some citations, a magnifying glass, and a compass to discover where they back this up, even ignoring the "I die" typo "The short-term impact on the industry is that there could be actual bidding or competition between WWE and FloSports for pro wrestling content outside of WWE worldwide, including the companies WWE has asked its fans about in their recent surveys. This list of potential FloSports partners includes ROH, EVOLVE, Pro Wrestling Guerrilla, the burgeoning U.K. indy scene, CMLL in Mexico, and New Japan Pro Wrestling or other Japan groups. FloSports is willing to inject a significant amount of up-front money to major indy groups that sign up, giving them the revenue necessary to better compete for indy wrestler salaries and hire international established stars for their bigger shows. This could mean indy wrestlers won’t be as quick to jump at WWE’s offers to join NXT if they can make a significantly better financial deal outside of WWE." "Also, more importantly, if you are Adam Cole, Kyle O'Reilly and the Young Bucks, you have no idea what good news this could be."
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Oct 24, 2016 23:02
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would be cool if this enabled evolve to sponsor some visas e.g. speedball or josh alexander
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Oct 24, 2016 23:04
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EugeneJ posted:Gabe's a retard and now this is going to gently caress up his relationship with Hunter Swerve HHH also runs flosports
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Oct 24, 2016 23:09
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I'll subscribe but I don't see how this bumps salaries for guys already getting the most exposure possible without signing with WWE or wind up a tremendous money losing failure
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Oct 24, 2016 23:11
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EugeneJ posted:Gabe's a retard and now this is going to gently caress up his relationship with Hunter cannot fathom he's stupid enough to burn that bridge. No way he signed up without getting permission first.
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Oct 24, 2016 23:12
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nice gabe headcanon
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Oct 24, 2016 23:25
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Super No Vacancy posted:nice gabe headcanon Gabe Headcanon sounds like an FCW name
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Oct 24, 2016 23:26
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Super No Vacancy posted:nice gabe headcanon poo poo!!!
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Oct 24, 2016 23:27
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oatgan posted:I'll subscribe but I don't see how this bumps salaries for guys already getting the most exposure possible without signing with WWE or wind up a tremendous money losing failure What if FloSports pulls a TNA and signs Bucks/Cole/O'Reilly to exclusive deals like Panda did with Sting and Hogan's contracts, then lets Gabe use them for nothing
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Oct 24, 2016 23:34
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EugeneJ posted:What if FloSports pulls a TNA and signs Bucks/Cole/O'Reilly to exclusive deals like Panda did with Sting and Hogan's contracts, then lets Gabe use them for nothing They're all still under contract to ROH and NJPW, that would be pretty hard
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Oct 24, 2016 23:53
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I just want to watch Death Before Dishonor IV again
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Oct 25, 2016 00:17
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Jon Davis on demand.
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Oct 25, 2016 00:21
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EugeneJ posted:Gabe's a retard and now this is going to gently caress up his relationship with Hunter 100% not the case
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Oct 25, 2016 01:05
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Vince will respect Gabe for standing up to him and give him a big push....into an open grave!!!
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Marquis de Pyro posted:Vince will respect Gabe for standing up to him and give him a big push....into an open grave!!! Vince? It isn't 1996.
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