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swamp waste posted:You're missing the scope of the issue, I think. I mean look at the first part of the sentence you quoted. She had profound problems connecting with other people. That'll wear someone down pretty severely over time. Everything about her is very characteristic of female Asperger's, which tends to be expressed differently than male Asperger's.
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Wiggy Marie posted:It's worth noting that this article re-release coincides with a new movie about this case. Apologies if that was mentioned before, but it does give everything a creepy "for publicity" feel. The movie is really good (though obviously very sad). If you liked that article you should definitely see it. I went yesterday.
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Pick posted:Everything about her is very characteristic of female Asperger's, which tends to be expressed differently than male Asperger's.
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Jose posted:getting hit by a train is bad. fun hater posted:please do not start a derail
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FourLeaf posted:The movie is really good (though obviously very sad). If you liked that article you should definitely see it. I went yesterday. Thanks for the recommendation, I'm not sure if it's being shown in this area so I'll have to take a look. Rondette posted:Crass capitalization on old tragedies/events? WW1 Christmas Truce talk? Time to share this mawkish and nauseating advert from 2014 that trades in on both those things!! Wow this is terrible. Thanks for the share, I had no idea such a thing existed. Oh the Christmas spirit! So heartwarming! Wiggy Marie has a new favorite as of 03:13 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Huh for real? I had no idea there were gender based differences with that. Seems like an interesting thing for me to read up more on From what I've read, there's not really significant gender based differences. It's the social expectations of genders that have such an impact - women with Asperger's are thought to learn by rote memorization a lot of social cues and behaviors because girls are expected to behave in certain ways. Men and boys tend to have fewer and looser social expectations on them so Asperger's tends to be much more obvious.
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Cythereal posted:From what I've read, there's not really significant gender based differences. It's the social expectations of genders that have such an impact - women with Asperger's are thought to learn by rote memorization a lot of social cues and behaviors because girls are expected to behave in certain ways. Men and boys tend to have fewer and looser social expectations on them so Asperger's tends to be much more obvious. It also has to do with gendered stereotypes. Girls who are quiet, poor at social cues and socially awkward are "nice, quiet, shy". Boys who act similarly are "creepy".
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Cythereal posted:From what I've read, there's not really significant gender based differences. It's the social expectations of genders that have such an impact - women with Asperger's are thought to learn by rote memorization a lot of social cues and behaviors because girls are expected to behave in certain ways. Men and boys tend to have fewer and looser social expectations on them so Asperger's tends to be much more obvious. That is, it's more typified for women. Also things like eating disorders are common for women with Aspergers, because it's a socially acceptable outlet for obsessive behavior (and eating generally tends to be affected).
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Being a soldier, the Christmas Truces of WWI make me really depressed. It's amazing what happens when you realize the other guy is a human just like you, with his own fears, doubts, and beliefs. It's disheartening to be labeled a criminal for not wanting to kill.
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Which is why the generals flipped their poo poo
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The tale of the Tasmanian Aboriginals is tragic but really so is the plight of most Aboriginal communities in colonized/invaded countries. For something unnerving rather than just loving depressing, Aboriginals convicted of a crime often elect to undergo "traditional" punishment such as getting speared/clubbed in addition to judicial punishment. It's hard to find online articles on tribal punishment that aren't either basic news stories or elaborations on "bloody boongs don't deserve civilisation and should thank us for forcing it on them"  , but the NLA has an informative page on the topic for students with some interesting links and quotes: Henry Long posted:“I got speared in the leg, too, for being cheeky. I got hit on the head, too, by all my old people. The spear came out of the calf of the leg. My old father did that. I was a cheeky bloke fighting the other fellas over some silly things I been doing in my young days. I was going with the wrong girls. My skin group is Milangka. I was with someone from a wrong skin group… quote:Singing a person might still be practices today. Paul Clune recounts an incident in Perth: Tales of people being sung to death are far more common prior to the 1930's. Here's a podcast on the topic. It's still taken seriously by many people, not just aboriginals. In 2006 it was discussed an an option for an officer cleared of wrongdoing regarding a Palm Island death in custody. Palm Island of course has it's own terrible history: quote:Blacks (Aboriginals) were not allowed on Mango Avenue, where whites lived. Blacks were required to salute any white person they passed. White staff got choice cuts of meat; blacks got bones. Blacks had their milk watered down. At the cinema whites sat on chairs carried by black servants; blacks sat on blankets. White day-trippers were carried to the shore on black backs. Whites paid blacks to perform corroborees or shimmy up trees for coconuts. Permits were needed to fish; permits were needed to swim. There were garden competitions and European dancing, and those who did not participate were questioned by police. A brass band learnt to play jazz and marching tunes, but failure to attend band practice could result in a jail sentence. Each superintendent “got the law in his own mouth”. Even in the 1960s a man could be arrested for waving to his wife, or for laughing. A teenager whose cricket ball broke off a short length of branch would spend the night locked up. If anyone complained, they were sent to nearby Eclipse Island with only bread and water. On Eclipse prisoners tried to catch fish with their bare hands. At one point it was listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the world's most violent place outside of a war zone. The Sausages has a new favorite as of 13:29 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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Bonus thing: Aboriginal Headbanging (click link for photos):Vice Magazine posted:Violent riots had erupted between two of the town’s largest gangs and for a moment it looked like the Australian Army (because there really is such a thing) was going to have to be brought in to settle the fighting. But what really blew us away was that the town, which is named Wadeye (pronounced “Wad-air”), was split up into gangs named after heavy metal bands. There were the Judas Priest Boys, the Evil Warriors, and the Slayer Mob. We immediately dropped everything else we were working on and embarked north from Melbourne to Wadeye to see it for ourselves. Nothing could have prepared us for what we found.
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Pick posted:Everything about her is very characteristic of female Asperger's, which tends to be expressed differently than male Asperger's. I mean, when you've been taught all your life that your real worth as a woman is based on your attractiveness, and you can't figure out why no one wants to date you and are hopelessly socially awkward, it can be really really difficult to feel like your life has any meaning, no matter what other accomplishments you rack up. I'm also reminded of that astronaut who stalked her love interest's girlfriend across the country a few years back - anyone remember that case?
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pookel posted:I was going to mention that everything about her story is very understandable to me, I guess maybe this is why. Lisa Nowak. The wiki seems pretty thorough. Here's an NYT article from the time. Doesn't seem to be much recent stuff though.
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Enjoying the thread to the point I'm now working through the archived 2013 version: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3522371&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=77 Is anyone else gearing up with unnerving World War I stories for the upcoming armistice anniversary?
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Hope this hasn't been posted already, I skimmed back and didn't see it. The identity of double-identity thief whose actions hadn't come to light until she committed suicide while known as "Lori Ruff" is finally discovered.
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What is sung to death? I googled it and the only stuff I found assumed that you already know what it is.
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BattleMaster posted:What is sung to death? I googled it and the only stuff I found assumed that you already know what it is. Basically putting a curse on someone so they die.
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Loomer posted:I don't understand why spearing is unnerving, though? I thought it was some Saint Sebastian poo poo, but with spears instead of arrows. What else is it?
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Basically it seems like the Aboriginal equivalent of a voodoo hex. They sing you to curse you, which basically makes awful poo poo happen to you until you have either (assumedly) made restitution through suffering or you die.
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That drat Satyr posted:Basically it seems like the Aboriginal equivalent of a voodoo hex. They sing you to curse you, which basically makes awful poo poo happen to you until you have either (assumedly) made restitution through suffering or you die. See also: "Pointing the Bone" In  breaking news, Four people got minced by a family ride at Dreamworld, a theme park on the Sunshine Coast in QLD. Not a lot of details but the response workers are traumatised by what they saw. Four people receiving "injuries incompatible with life", likely because they got sucked into belts...what a hosed way to go
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According to the radio, two ejected from the ride and two... the opposite of ejected. Injected?
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DumbparameciuM posted:See also: "Pointing the Bone" continuing the long tradition of people getting killed horribly in amusement parks, huh? quote:Lisa Walker, a New Zealander visiting from New Guinea where she works as a police officer, was one of the patrons trickling out and said she had been on the Thunder River Rapids ride only 10 or 15 minutes before the accident. She went back to the area after hearing commotion and sirens.  quote:Two riders were understood to be trapped by the underwater conveyor belt after the ride in front up-ended and two people were trapped in the raft. Two other riders were able to escape.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Enjoying the thread to the point I'm now working through the archived 2013 version: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3522371&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=77 We've got two years until the centenary, I think there's no rush.
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DumbparameciuM posted:See also: "Pointing the Bone" Jesus. That poor girl probably saw her mom die. She's just about my daughter's age.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Is anyone else gearing up with unnerving World War I stories for the upcoming armistice anniversary? I live in Kansas City, where Liberty Memorial is, which houses the National WWI museum. They have life size dioramas of trenches that you can peer into (with sounds), and a diorama of a bomb crater that you walk into and look up from the bottom. I have never been closer to being sick in a museum than when I walked into that crater. It's one thing to see pictures, but to actually be surrounded by dirt and debris 20 feet high...unnerving is a very good word for it. Anyway, I highly recommend Liberty Memorial. It's very well done and has a ton of fascinating artifacts and exhibits.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:I live in Kansas City, where Liberty Memorial is, which houses the National WWI museum. They have life size dioramas of trenches that you can peer into (with sounds), and a diorama of a bomb crater that you walk into and look up from the bottom. I have never been closer to being sick in a museum than when I walked into that crater. It's one thing to see pictures, but to actually be surrounded by dirt and debris 20 feet high...unnerving is a very good word for it. Me too - I can spend days in there. I also highly recommend listening to Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast, he does 4-5 episodes about WW1.
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value-brand cereal posted:I thought it was some Saint Sebastian poo poo, but with spears instead of arrows. What else is it? You go out in the middle of nowhere with your people, and they take a spear and they drive it through the meat of your thigh or shin. Usually, they only do it once, and that's that. You limp away with them and they fix your leg up, and the matter is settled so long as you behave yourself afterwards. You usually aren't bound to anything or immobilized - a big part of it is standing there, facing your consequences like a man (and it is like a man. Spearing is not a punishment for women in like, 99% of customary law) and owning what you did. You face it, you face the punishment, and whoever you wronged (or their family, if they died) gets to see justice done in person. Usually, if you hear about a harsher penalty it's down to one of two things: Either some heinous poo poo that to be frank deserves a severe punishment (like beating your wife to death or serious injury, raping a kid, etc. Stuff we'd think needs a lengthy prison sentence, which they don't view as enough) or a breach of a major cultural taboo (which we have trouble in the West seeing as as serious as they are for the people who hold to them.) These also aren't ad hoc affairs where a couple of drunk dickheads do it, this is justice business every bit as serious and solemn as a criminal trial in the western model is, presided over by elders and with arguments for each side, and with the actual spearing and similar punishments very closely controlled and supervised by those elders. When it was more common, these were also people who knew their tools very well. Unless they want you to die, you aren't going to die from a spearing. Nor are you going to be permanently crippled unless that's the idea, barring an unlucky infection. That drat Satyr posted:Basically it seems like the Aboriginal equivalent of a voodoo hex. They sing you to curse you, which basically makes awful poo poo happen to you until you have either (assumedly) made restitution through suffering or you die. No, that's singing or equivalents. Spearing is a mundane, physical affair (mostly. It does have some spiritual and religious aspects, but the 'hex' is a different thing entirely.)
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Loomer posted:No, that's singing or equivalents. Spearing is a mundane, physical affair (mostly. It does have some spiritual and religious aspects, but the 'hex' is a different thing entirely.)
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What I'm saying is that Singing and Spearing are two distinct things. Spearing does not involve a 'hex' or the other elements of singing and its equivalents.
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The confusion is that Loomer thought That drat Satyr's reply was to value-brand cereal's post about spearing, as it came directly after it. Whereas I understood That drat Satyr to be replying to BattleMaster, which was asking about singing - and That drat Satyr mentions singing in his post, although he doesn't quote BattleMaster. (if anybody is capable of following that - basically the guy was replying to an earlier post, not the one immediately preceding his, but didn't quote it) I'm Australian and I've always understood spearing in the context of how bloody expensive and counter-intuitive prisons are, especially given the resources and frequently nomadic lifestyles of most Indigenous Australian tribes. But then it just occurred to me - did any of the indigenous groups practise slavery? A quick google shows up nothing. Sulla Faex has a new favorite as of 18:24 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:The confusion is that Loomer thought That drat Satyr's reply was to value-brand cereal's post about spearing, as it came directly after it. Whereas I understood That drat Satyr to be replying to BattleMaster, which was asking about singing - and That drat Satyr mentions signing in his post, although he doesn't quote BattleMaster. Native Americans did. Is there a history of large scale tribal conflict with Australian Aborigines? It'll usually go hand in hand with that kind of thing.
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I know Native American groups practised slavery, I'm asking about Indigenous Australians. There were conflicts, for sure, but to my (very limited) understanding they were nowhere near the scale of what you saw in the Americas.
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:I know Native American groups practised slavery, I'm asking about Indigenous Australians. There were conflicts, for sure, but to my (very limited) understanding they were nowhere near the scale of what you saw in the Americas. I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant that as an example of "yes, aboriginals in other regions have practiced slavery so it's not an unreasonable thing to wonder about". Sometimes I forget that what's clear in my head isn't clear written down.
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Oh, that's fine. I just meant more that it's (presumably) common knowledge that the native American tribes weren't all lovey dovey and that most of them had warrior/raiding cultures and practised slavery to differing extents. But it struck me as odd that I'd never heard about slavery within Australia prior to the arrival of the whites, when slavery is a pretty consistent theme across all cultures in history. At the very least, there's gotta be some element of raiding for new wives, right?
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I think it's more the amount of resource scarcity in Australia. Slavery doesn't make sense when you've barely got enough for your own.
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Have an unnerving article from the OSHA thread. I now have a new phobia after reading it. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/oct/24/former-socceroo-steve-herczeg-died-after-catheter-connected-to-oxygen-coroner-told
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Spotify's weekly playlist algorithm decided to put a song about the Columbia shuttle disaster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Columbia_disaster on my playlist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8AisTXgAGA and since I was only 9 when it happened I decided to read up on it. Maybe this is common knowledge but I had no idea that NASA knew about the issue with the shuttle but decided not to warn the crew Director of Mission Operations Jon C. Harpold posted:You know, there is nothing we can do about damage to the TPS [Thermal Protection System]. If it has been damaged it's probably better not to know. I think the crew would rather not know. Don't you think it would be better for them to have a happy successful flight and die unexpectedly during entry than to stay on orbit, knowing that there was nothing to be done, until the air ran out? The unsettling part is that he's probably right. Except: Wikipedia posted:The CAIB determined that a rescue mission, though risky, might have been possible provided NASA management had taken action soon enough.[59][60] Normally, a rescue mission is not possible, due to the time required to prepare a shuttle for launch, and the limited consumables (power, water, air) of an orbiting shuttle. However, Atlantis was well along in processing for a planned March 1 launch on STS-114, and Columbia carried an unusually large quantity of consumables due to an Extended Duration Orbiter package. The CAIB determined that this would have allowed Columbia to stay in orbit until flight day 30 (February 15). NASA investigators determined that Atlantis processing could have been expedited with no skipped safety checks for a February 10 launch. Hence, if nothing went wrong, there was a five-day overlap for a possible rescue.
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