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Rangpur posted:See, I kinda feel the same way about Nahyuta. He's a dick on a personal level in a way that Godot isn't but the quality of the objections are equally, uh, unobjectionable? "This is baseless supposition, and the defense doesn't have a thing to back it up" is 100% accurate for most PW defenses, at the time you make the objection. Unfortunately we're the protagonist so it turns out he's wrong but it's a completely normal reaction. tbf I think his "let it go" spiel is supposed to make him sound like a condescending rear end in a top hat.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:tbf I think his "let it go" spiel is supposed to make him sound like a condescending rear end in a top hat. That's why I rather liked him. He is meant to be this peaceful monk on the outside but on the inside he's kind of a giant dickhead. I thought the juxtaposition of his beautiful exterior and ugly interior was really interesting and I liked the further development as to why he is like that. He's good, much like every other prosecutor.
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People hating on Nahyuta sound like they need to let it go and move on.
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Oct 25, 2016 01:21
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Nahyuta is a large baby and he should let it go and move on out of my house with his bullshit
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MattTheDoctor posted:That's why I rather liked him. He is meant to be this peaceful monk on the outside but on the inside he's kind of a giant dickhead. I thought the juxtaposition of his beautiful exterior and ugly interior was really interesting and I liked the further development as to why he is like that. He wasn't my favorite but I don't know why people would dislike him so much, I mean the worst thing you can say is he's middling. If anything he was a step back from how nutty the universe often gets.
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Oct 25, 2016 01:30
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The best thing Nahyuta did was getting clowned on by Blackquil, because Blackquil is infinitely better
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Danaru posted:Blackquil is infinitely better Preach.
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Oct 25, 2016 01:34
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Well if the goal of the writers was to make a character you hate then they really knocked it out of the park with Nahyuta, most of the other main prosecutors at least managed to attain some level of respect from me at some point, but that never happened with him.
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Oct 25, 2016 02:24
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He's just dull. Klavier was dull too, but he had cool air guitar animations.
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Oct 25, 2016 02:31
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Nahyuta was just couldn't shut up and stop being an rear end in a top hat and (case 6-5) it really put a damper on the big twist, you're supposed to be feeling a lot of things there but I don't think a sense of catharsis at finally getting a chance to knock him off his high horse by telling him his dad's dead is one of them. Or maybe it was because drat if he doesn't act like the biggest piece of poo poo right before you finally drop a picture of Dhurke in his face.
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Oct 25, 2016 02:35
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Nahyuta is a jerk whom I wanted to deck in the face, but that's precisely why he works more or less for me. It feels pretty satisfying to beat him by the trial's end, which is more than I can say for some other prosecutors. OK just one but I really hate that guy!
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Oct 25, 2016 02:37
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Nahyuta is a very beautiful man.
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Nate RFB posted:Nahyuta is a jerk whom I wanted to deck in the face, but that's precisely why he works more or less for me. It feels pretty satisfying to beat him by the trial's end, which is more than I can say for some other prosecutors. OK just one but I really hate that guy! Fwiw, I don't think you even see Klav's shocked/damaged animation until case 3, and even then it only plays once or twice more. And even then he seems to be pretty much acting because he knows every point the plot is going to go except for that one time you point out that the stamp had poison on it. Also he has two cases back-to-back where his dickhead friend and his brother are brought in as likely suspects for murder, but he never has any kind moral dilemma or anything. He's still just your bro on the other side. I don't hate Klavier like it seems a lot of people here do, in fact I think he's a pretty cool guy, but he really doesn't make for a good prosecutor. (And did the token guest prosecutor really have to be babby Klav  )At least with Nahyuta you have a smug rear end in a top hat and you repeatedly get to see him get owned. (Especially by Blackquill)
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Oct 25, 2016 03:13
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his defeat animation should have been him getting strangled by his own beads for like 3 - 5 seconds
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I don't think Nahyuta is even enough of a jerk to be interesting is the thing! I love the idea of a prosecutor who is a genuine villain and Nahyuta was the perfect chance. He hates lawyers and in some cases is LITERALLY fighting to KILL you. They had all that to work with, plus a cool theme, and he's still just boring. I mean it would be cool if a prosecutor for once used your own kind of crazyman contradictions against you, buuuut... that would probably be really hard to write. It's already bullshit enough that the prosecutors just pull new evidence out of nowhere.
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Nahyuta also doesn't really exhibit any growth throughout the game. Apollo even lays down an ice cold "if anyone is going to hell it's probably the dude who fights to give innocent people the death penalty" burn after the first case and Nahyuta is still the exact same character right up until oh dang turns out he was being blackmailed this whole time but we settled that and now he's instantly totes cool. Klavier participated more actively in his own game's plot than this doofus.
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(AA6 endgame) It was some weak rear end blackmail too. Literally, sentence all these criminals to death or we tell everyone your sister is actually your sister! As if that information wouldn't come to light almost as soon as Garan was forced to cede the throne in the first place. Ugh. Just so lackluster all around.
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Plom Bar posted:(AA6 endgame) It was some weak rear end blackmail too. Literally, sentence all these criminals to death or we tell everyone your sister is actually your sister! As if that information wouldn't come to light almost as soon as Garan was forced to cede the throne in the first place. Ugh. Just so lackluster all around. I assumed it wasn't "or we'll tell", it was "we have her close enough to easily kill her"
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From my opinion on this matter, I gotta say that Datz Arebal Is a much better Larry Butz E: I'd also like to know, WHERE THE gently caress IS MY DICK? Dizz fucked around with this message at 12:00 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Plom Bar posted:(AA6 endgame) It was some weak rear end blackmail too. Literally, sentence all these criminals to death or we tell everyone your sister is actually your sister! As if that information wouldn't come to light almost as soon as Garan was forced to cede the throne in the first place. Ugh. Just so lackluster all around. Since your father's crimes are your crimes or whatever wouldn't that mean Rafya would've been executed if they wanted? I thought it was decent enough motivation. Like, it didn't change that Nahyuta had 3 cases where he was exactly the same character and never grew or had more stuff revealed about him. But "do what we want or your sister gets it!" isn't that lackluster as far as motivation goes.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Since your father's crimes are your crimes or whatever wouldn't that mean Rafya would've been executed if they wanted? I thought it was decent enough motivation. Like, it didn't change that Nahyuta had 3 cases where he was exactly the same character and never grew or had more stuff revealed about him. But "do what we want or your sister gets it!" isn't that lackluster as far as motivation goes. I think the writers were going for Nahyuta to be completely crushed emotionally, just years of being gaslit and emotionally/mentally abused into following Ga'ran's whims because he was terrified of what could happen to Rayfa, and because he genuinely believed his father was a monster and he too had to burden those sins. Maybe even thinking he could carry Rayfa's burden as well, letting her live a lie so she could escape divine retribution. That's the intended motivation, yes, but what we got out of the writing as presented was a man who behaved like he was already dead and his fate predestined, at best, based on reactions in the thread.
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Case 5 Wow, Datz only got "a night in the slammer" even though he escaped prison and is wanted for treason? Hey, maybe Kuhra'in isn't so strict after all!
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Calico Heart posted:Case 5 Datz because he has his silly ALLEY-OOP move where he kinda jumps in place and then fades out, but he actually does that in-universe too, as in he just kinda gets away for vaguely defined reasons. He just enjoyed a night with a comfy bed, a decent meal and some quietude and then nope'd out next day. Glever girl. HenryEx fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Wow! Way to completely ruin a cool moment! Ga'ran went from having an awesome demeanour and design to having a TERRIBLE one. Just loving awful to look at. Its so bad it goes beyond "intentionally ugly and intimidating" to "painful to look at". Does this justify itself later or is it just baaaad?
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Sorry. The exxxtreme makeover is just bad slash dumb. TECHNICALLY it's gonna be KIND of an even dumber plot point and you're gonna groan out loud when you see it. Good news, it's not the last makeover you're gonna see either!
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Oct 27, 2016 01:14
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Ga'ran turning into a Final Fantasy villian was good and awesome
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Oct 27, 2016 01:17
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Sea Sponge Run posted:I would've been okay with it if it happened like 2 hours after it did. Can't let your villains have a degree of subtlety in the Dark Age of the Law 
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Sea Sponge Run posted:I would've been okay with it if it happened like 2 hours after it did.
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Oct 27, 2016 02:05
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I mean, Heavy Metal Hippie Jesus at least put up a fight before his reveal.
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One of the few things I'm disappointed in is (full game spoilers) the plot thread of Maya knowing the holy mother's true name, and the founder's orb having the holy mother's face didn't end with Maya channeling the holy mother. How rad would it have been for the holy mother herself to come in and denounce Ga'ran for loving up her kingdom?
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Danaru posted:One of the few things I'm disappointed in is (full game spoilers) the plot thread of Maya knowing the holy mother's true name, and the founder's orb having the holy mother's face didn't end with Maya channeling the holy mother. How rad would it have been for the holy mother herself to come in and denounce Ga'ran for loving up her kingdom? She didn't, she knew Kee'ra's
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AlphaKretin posted:She didn't, she knew Kee'ra's Aww dammit I conflated the two 
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AlphaKretin posted:She didn't, she knew Kee'ra's This ties up one thread that annoyed the hell out of me, then. The whole time they kept saying no one knew her name, but I was thinking they told it to Maya during case 3, which Phoenix was even aware of.
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nftyw posted:Well if the goal of the writers was to make a character you hate then they really knocked it out of the park with Nahyuta, most of the other main prosecutors at least managed to attain some level of respect from me at some point, but that never happened with him. I didn't hate him at all, he was just not particularly interesting.
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I love how Investigations refuses to admit that a plane is a bad setting for a long-form murder mystery, so we have a plane that's three or four goddamn stories tall.
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I'm fine with the impossibly huge plane, since this was obviously their homage to train mysteries, thus the plane had to have things like various compartments and a store.
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I'd normally call bullshit, but this is also a world where there's a theme park based around local law enforcement. The AA world is like the real world except no one but whoever you're playing as has that "wait this is a stupid idea" part of their brain. Also I love it and hope it never changes. 
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It's also intended to highlight the difference between Edgey and the Defense Attorney crew. Nick and co. ride bikes and take the occasional cab when in a rush, while Miles trots across the globe on three-story planes with elevators on a monthly basis.
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