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Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
I didn't notice until now but it looks like Tomb Raider is on sale for $7. If I have no interest in Uncharted or other 'watch cutscene, hit button for QTE to continue cutscene' style games, but DO like sneaking around slowly and methodically eliminating every guard in a base ala MGSV, would I like this game? The trailer made it seem like it was all about that but I know how misleading that can be.

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BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Wolfsheim posted:

I didn't notice until now but it looks like Tomb Raider is on sale for $7. If I have no interest in Uncharted or other 'watch cutscene, hit button for QTE to continue cutscene' style games, but DO like sneaking around slowly and methodically eliminating every guard in a base ala MGSV, would I like this game? The trailer made it seem like it was all about that but I know how misleading that can be.

Honestly UC4 has more stealth than TR.

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

Yeah, there's some sneaking around and picking people off with a bow and arrow, but there's also plenty of charging in with a grenade launcher while Lara yells taunts at bad guys.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
I know some people really don't like Uncharted but characterizing it as a game made up of nothing but QTEs and cutscenes is...weird.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



glam rock hamhock posted:

I know some people really don't like Uncharted but characterizing it as a game made up of nothing but QTEs and cutscenes is...weird.

Yeah, especially 3 and 4 which have some of the best mashup of stealth/platforming/melee+gunning in all of gaming. Very few games out there competently combine so many genres or gameplay styles better than UC.

morallyobjected
Nov 3, 2012
wasn't Tomb Raider still one of the "once one mook notices you, everyone in the area will know where you are forever" kind of games?

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

glam rock hamhock posted:

I know some people really don't like Uncharted but characterizing it as a game made up of nothing but QTEs and cutscenes is...weird.

To be fair I've never played an Uncharted game but fans I've talked to in real life always say "it's just like a movie!" and they say it like it's a good thing? And once way back in the day GameStop had some demo where it was just the guy running from a car or something and and you press X or whatever to do the cool cinematic dodge roll and it was basically a five minute QTE so :shrug:

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




morallyobjected posted:

wasn't Tomb Raider still one of the "once one mook notices you, everyone in the area will know where you are forever" kind of games?

yeah.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

Wolfsheim posted:

I didn't notice until now but it looks like Tomb Raider is on sale for $7. If I have no interest in Uncharted or other 'watch cutscene, hit button for QTE to continue cutscene' style games, but DO like sneaking around slowly and methodically eliminating every guard in a base ala MGSV, would I like this game? The trailer made it seem like it was all about that but I know how misleading that can be.

The TR reboot is great and it's gorgeous on PS4 to boot. There's a couple of QTE things but they're brief enough to stay out of the way for most of the game. It's not as setpiece heavy as Uncharted, but you do have some occasional crazy "everything is falling don't stop running and jumping" platforming bits.

Wolfsheim posted:

To be fair I've never played an Uncharted game but fans I've talked to in real life always say "it's just like a movie!" and they say it like it's a good thing? And once way back in the day GameStop had some demo where it was just the guy running from a car or something and and you press X or whatever to do the cool cinematic dodge roll and it was basically a five minute QTE so :shrug:

You should also play Uncharted. There's no way it could be as lovely as the game you think it is. That truck segment is closer to running from a boulder in Crash Bandicoot than it is a QTE.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




you shoot the grill of the truck to stop it. its not much of a qte

morallyobjected
Nov 3, 2012
are there any true QTE segments in Uncharted aside from like the boss fight in 3 and maybe some in the first one? it's been a while since I've played the PS3 ones

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




probably. not ones that really stand out in my mind the way they do in TR or like RE4 or whatever.
i mean there are lots of tap square to move a thing type parts i guess.

enojy
Sep 11, 2001

bass rattle
stars out
the sky

Wolfsheim posted:

To be fair I've never played an Uncharted game but fans I've talked to in real life always say "it's just like a movie!" and they say it like it's a good thing? And once way back in the day GameStop had some demo where it was just the guy running from a car or something and and you press X or whatever to do the cool cinematic dodge roll and it was basically a five minute QTE so :shrug:

They probably say that because the Uncharted series has a distinct George Lucas presentation about it. I'm really not giving this analogy any credit by saying this, but it's kinda Indiana Jones (The Video Game) shot like Star Wars.

There are a small handful of QTEs and on-rails segments, but they make up around 5-10% of each game at best.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


i always thought it was one of those things people said to drag it, since uncharted makes people who dislike sony crazy for whatever reason

manyak
Jan 26, 2006
The uncharted games are good.

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

When they say that Uncharted is like a movie, I mean in the sense that the cutscenes are well-paced, the acting is solid, and it's just overall excellently presented. Like, the story is legitimately entertaining to watch unfold, in a way that most games just plain don't pull off. It doesn't feel like you're watching some shoddy high school production level bullshit written by a group of nerds who don't understand storytelling. It legit feels like a fun summer action movie.

Aggro
Apr 24, 2003

STRONG as an OX and TWICE as SMART
I still haven't finished Uncharted 3 because I started reading books about John Dee and Francis Drake, because it was driving me nuts not knowing what was real and what was made up for the game.

Eldred
Feb 19, 2004
Weight gain is impossible.

Aggro posted:

I still haven't finished Uncharted 3 because I started reading books about John Dee and Francis Drake, because it was driving me nuts not knowing what was real and what was made up for the game.

I kinda lost interest at the halfway point because it felt just like UC2 only now there are extra-video gamey big dudes to fight in the same way every time.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Uncharted 3 is a Good Game.

GhostDog
Jul 30, 2003

Always see everything.
The aiming in 3 was legit hosed on the initial release though.

Attitude Indicator
Apr 3, 2009

uncharted has a lot of context sensitive button prompts i seem to recall. might be why some think its QTE heavy.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



GhostDog posted:

The aiming in 3 was legit hosed on the initial release though.

Not hosed enough to keep me from beating it on crushing. :unsmigghh:

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

Aggro posted:

I still haven't finished Uncharted 3 because I started reading books about John Dee and Francis Drake, because it was driving me nuts not knowing what was real and what was made up for the game.

I picked up a book that covered Henry Avery and the Golden Age of Piracy after playing 4. Sure, Uncharted takes nuggets of history to a ridiculous degree, but that's part of its charm.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Uncharted 4 has like 2 QTE bits in the entire game. Which just comes off as weird since they only happen those couple of times.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Wolfsheim posted:

To be fair I've never played an Uncharted game but fans I've talked to in real life always say "it's just like a movie!" and they say it like it's a good thing? And once way back in the day GameStop had some demo where it was just the guy running from a car or something and and you press X or whatever to do the cool cinematic dodge roll and it was basically a five minute QTE so :shrug:

Nah, the selling point isn't "it's just like a movie" the selling point is it has the production quality of a movie inside a game, you're thinking about it the wrong way.

Things like the writing quality, art design, voice acting - stuff that until recently a lot of games just completely dropped the ball on. Uncharted 4 feels like they took the budget of a hollywood blockbuster and spent it on a game.

THE AWESOME GHOST fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Oct 25, 2016

elf help book
Aug 5, 2004

Though the battle might be endless, I will never give up
I love budget.

kuddles
Jul 16, 2006

Like a fist wrapped in blood...
The Uncharted series creates is closer to a cinematic experience full of crazy big-budget action movie moments than any other game, but those also means it values that cinematic experience above all else, including gameplay. So it creates a love-it-or-hate-it kind of thing.

Renoistic
Jul 27, 2007

Everyone has a
guardian angel.
I love the UC games but the "puzzles" are painful on repeat playthroughs. They are extremely easy but even if you know how to solve them they still take long to solve because of animations, small vignettes after beating a subpuzzle, etc.

Still, I've never understood the complaints about the game being more of a movie than a game. What makes it less of a game than other action titles like Gears of War, Max Payne or Halo?

Renoistic fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Oct 25, 2016

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Most of the puzzles in UC4 in particular are insufferable

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

At least you don't have to hold your PS4 against the Sun.

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


Renoistic posted:

Still, I've never understood the complaints about the game being more of a movie than a game. What makes it less of a game than other action titles like Gears of War, Max Payne or Halo?
Probably because of the first part of your post? None of those games you name have that stuff.

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



SelenicMartian posted:

At least you don't have to hold your PS4 against the Sun. up to a picture of that one goon's bathroom rug.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


extremely hype for this sale on the Resident Evil games, especially since the ps4 version of RE4 wasnt on sale in the recent capcom sale.

its weird that the bundle has no additional sale / there is actually no reason to buy it instead of the individual games.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



The Vita version of World of Final Fantasy might be the most innovative game of all-time.



Wanna play the PSS.

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

Wait, do they sell adult movies on PSN or something?

It seems weird that they'd have a tag for that despite presumably not ever wanting a game that could be labeled Adult.

For weird Themes, I guess?

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Quantum of Phallus posted:

Most of the puzzles in UC4 in particular are insufferable

Yeah, UC3 had the best balance for puzzles, almost a bit too gamey. But they were interesting on the first run and easy to blaze through on the second.



UC4 really bit it here imo, especially when they stuck that paintings puzzle right between big sequences so you're just tapping your foot to get back to the gameplay.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

I was actually gonna mention the painting puzzle specifically. Jesus Christ that was awful.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
I like that puzzle :(

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Phantasium posted:

Wait, do they sell adult movies on PSN or something?

It seems weird that they'd have a tag for that despite presumably not ever wanting a game that could be labeled Adult.

For weird Themes, I guess?

Idk but apparently when they put it in the database it also got labeled as a CERO-Z which is the Japanese ESRB classification for porn game

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Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

glam rock hamhock posted:

I like that puzzle :(

I think it's a good, fun puzzle, but on a replay I'm too excited knowing that the chase is coming up to be able to savor it appropriately.

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