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Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

WampaLord posted:

I wonder how many people who say poo poo like this would be willing to look the man in the eye and deny him his lifelong dream out of ideological purity.

Thankfully Obama isn't as dumb or petty as goons tend to be. This comes up regularly in the SCOTUS thread too. But for the people who cant seem to grasp a very basic concept:

Barack Obama picked Garland because that's who he wants on the bench, period. This isn't some bet-hedging 10798790th dimensional chess thing. Withdrawing Garland's nomination also vindicates the GOP's "no nominations in the final year" bullshit entirely and that's reason enough for why Obama won't do it.

Clinton has also called for Garland to be confirmed and I wouldn't be surprised if she mentions it in a victory speech and/or during the lame duck period. I do hope that if the GOP runs out the clock she does go and pick someone further left and a few decades younger though.

Khisanth Magus posted:

gently caress it, time to move to Sweden and live up that sweet, sweet socialized medicine. They like importing people in my field, so it is unlikely I would have much of a problem immigrating if I wanted to. If only the US didn't have retarded ex-pat taxes...

There's no ex-pat taxes if you renounce your citizenship, which is what a lot of people do for exactly that reason.

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Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.
Health providers are complicit in inflating costs, though. MRIs at a hospital for like $2k can be done at a private medical facility for a few hundred. Whether this is a side effect or a driving factor, I don't know.

Also, stop me if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but who the gently caress cares about Medicare being insolvent if it's a government-run entity? Isn't this like complaining the post office doesn't make a profit?

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Phone posted:

There's also a part where he gets really mad about Ivana being super good at skiing.

Narcissism isn't born of unerring confidence but of deep insecurity. I ain't no brain wizard so I can't really call him a narcissist (and even then it'd be weird to), but he does bear some markers for NPD. Reading that article makes it seem like he doesn't have NPD by the diagnostic criteria, though. He's just an inexplicably insecure mess.

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/790757362999103488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
A 'conceptual' military endorsement. Okay.

CascadeBeta
Feb 14, 2009

by Cyrano4747
^^^ It's the same way he "read the body language" of those intelligence officers who were supposedly upset with Obama.

BUG JUG posted:

There is a section in that NYT article where the author says something like: Trump saw his name in print as being special, and denied to other people. The first thought that came to mind: this guy is literally Tom Marvolo Riddle. Christ.

Oh great. My mom's a death eater. :saddowns:

CascadeBeta fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Oct 25, 2016

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

computer parts posted:

The purpose of that clause, incidentally, is to disincentivize employer health plans and get people on the exchanges.

If only the exchanges weren't poo poo full of HDHPs and not much else and you don't get the amount your employer pays for your plan(which here they pay like 75% of the premium).

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

BUG JUG posted:

There is a section in that NYT article where the author says something like: Trump saw his name in print as being special, and denied to other people. The first thought that came to mind: this guy is literally Tom Marvolo Riddle. Christ.

Not gonna lie, if people started calling Trump He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named I wouldn't be surprised.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

On the subject of there being a shortage of medical schools, I wanted to double check that there is only one medical school in Washington State. I learned not only is the University of Washington the only WA state med school, but it is also the only regional med school for Idaho, Alaska, Montana, and Wyoming.

Recently there was tooth and nail opposition to Washington State University getting their own med school, including overcoming a 100 year old state law that only allowed the University of Washington to have a med school. With the critical doctor shortage it was absurd for opponents of WSU getting a school to throw around terms like "individual institutional ambitions." Even though the WSU med school got approved, it won't start graduating doctors until 2024 at the earliest.

Even if somehow having two schools produced more doctors than Washington State could use (a real argument against the school), the rest of the nation would easily absorb their talents. In all of history has a society ever had "too many doctors"?

TVs Ian
Jun 1, 2000

Such graceful, delicate creatures.

TheBigAristotle posted:

Obamacare is a lovely blowjob to insurance companies. I want it to work, I want single-payer eventually. But I am still waiting on an explanation from the left as to how the ACA isn't a debacle.

I wouldn't have insurance at all if it wasn't for ACA, so not a total debacle. My company is too small to offer insurance, my wife's company charges $900+/month for a crappy plan, and we tried to just buy a plan before ACA but couldn't due to pre-existing conditions.

While I would greatly prefer single-payer, or at least a Medicare buy-in for everyone as one of the plans, it's an improvement over the way it was before.

My wife is actually super mad at her mom right now because of this. Her mom is one of those "There is nothing Trump could say or do to change my mind about voting for him" people. Even with her pointing out, "I would probably be totally bedridden and dead in less than 10 years without medical care that Trump and his party want to take away" doesn't change anything.

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer

Khisanth Magus posted:

I'm actually encountering my first real problem with "Obamacare". The whole "Cadillac Plan" tax going into effect in 2018. Turns out that the medical insurance my company offers was too good for this lovely country, so to avoid the huge tax penalty my company is significantly hosing the insurance plan(self-funded but administered by BCBS). Specialist visits are doubling in co-pay, as is "non-formulary brand name drugs". I'm not entirely sure why they are implementing this a year early, but the good health insurance was one of the major benefits of working here. When you have a spouse with a chronic health condition that requires unusual medications and monthly appointments with a specialist changes like this are bullshit.

gently caress it, time to move to Sweden and live up that sweet, sweet socialized medicine. They like importing people in my field, so it is unlikely I would have much of a problem immigrating if I wanted to. If only the US didn't have retarded ex-pat taxes...

You have to make over 90-100 thousand dollars to actually pay taxes if you leave abroad, and also you get to discount income taxes from your current residence, which in Sweden are probably much higher.

Reaganomicon
Jan 31, 2004

Flush please
does the ny times projection of 93% chance of Hillary winning sound about right?

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


BUG JUG posted:

There is a section in that NYT article where the author says something like: Trump saw his name in print as being special, and denied to other people. The first thought that came to mind: this guy is literally Tom Marvolo Riddle. Christ.

Is Ivanka a horcrux?

Wildeyes
Nov 3, 2011

Phone posted:

There's also a part where he gets really mad about Ivana being super good at skiing.

Didn't he also get super pissed when she tried her hand at managing one of his hotels and ended up being quite successful?

Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



Riddle was big on no one saying his name though, even had a UK wide ban on it.

He's more like ... Richard Rahl. Everyone must spend 2 hours a day chanting his name.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

theflyingorc posted:

What's this about artificial doctor scarcity? That's a new one to me.

Unrefined doctors are purposely left behind in the medical mines so that the AMA can retain their patents and keep supply low so that doctors are seen as rare extravagances that few can afford.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

Nichael posted:

Is Ivanka a horcrux?

Please don't use gendered slurs even if it's a political enemy.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

TheBigAristotle posted:

Hannity's been hyping up the National Enquirer's story about Hillary's "fixer" who paid off hookers, killed and ate Vince Foster, etc etc.

Turns out the guy is an extremely creepy and long-faced weirdo named Jeff Rovin who was at one point the loving editor of the Weekly World News, a satire tabloid that brought us the wonder that is Bat Boy, and ran stories about things like Hillary being impregnated by aliens, JFK being alive and living in Greenland, etc.
So Barnacle Jim got on Hannity?

As to the healthcare thing (well, a sliver of the problem at least) I was just discussing with someone that since we have no GPs any more as it's impossible to pay off your drat loans before you die unless you're a specialist that a UHC styled system should rely more on NPs and PAs as frontline/preventative care. You're done with schooling faster and it's less expensive. NPs can even write prescriptions as long as they're supervised by an MD.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Khisanth Magus posted:


gently caress it, time to move to Sweden and live up that sweet, sweet socialized medicine. They like importing people in my field, so it is unlikely I would have much of a problem immigrating if I wanted to. If only the US didn't have retarded ex-pat taxes...

I'm only basing this on my American partner who lives here in Ireland - but I was under the impression that you only pay taxes on income earned in the States, even though you file every year. Unless that changes above a certain income bracket

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

bad boy in the boy band posted:

o/t, but if you don't know the history between Michigan and Ohio and why they hate each other, google "The Toledo War". It's really interesting.

The quick and dirty is that militias from each state went to war (no deaths, one injury total) over a strip of land bordering the Michigan and Ohio territories that included Toledo. Ultimately it was ruled to belong to Ohio, and Michigan was given the UP from Wisconsin as compensation.

So gently caress you, Michigan. Give us our land back.

What? That fucker Andrew Jackson stole Toledo and its port from us and gave it to Ohio because they voted for him. Then he tried to give us the UP to mollify the Michiganders he'd robbed, thinking it was worthless, then it turned out to be excellent timbering and mining land and then the railroad boom happened and made water travel less essential so we really ended up coming out the better, proving God was on the side of Michigan like always. Except all the times we've screwed ourselves by being a pack of hollering idiots.

aellisr
Oct 11, 2007

Alveolar fibrosis don't give a damn.

theflyingorc posted:

What's this about artificial doctor scarcity? That's a new one to me.

Aging population of baby boomers with a host of chronic medical issues and lack of rural penetration for specialists to assist in managing most of those conditions. I work in Pulmonologist's office, in a rural area of a red state, and our referral list grows exponentially each month.

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Nichael posted:

Is Ivanka a horcrux?

no but rudy giuliani is

edit: also ted cruz

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

WeAreTheRomans posted:

I'm only basing this on my American partner who lives here in Ireland - but I was under the impression that you only pay taxes on income earned in the States, even though you file every year. Unless that changes above a certain income bracket

If you earn more than $90k you have to pay taxes in both countries. Which I'm not entirely sure what my salary would be there.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Reaganomicon posted:

does the ny times projection of 93% chance of Hillary winning sound about right?

No it's 100% they just can't say it.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Khisanth Magus posted:

If you earn more than $90k you have to pay taxes in both countries. Which I'm not entirely sure what my salary would be there.

Gotcha. Fuckkkk that, she might have to worry about that soon....

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

That CNN/ORC poll shows 93% of Clinton supporters think Clinton will win and only 57% of Trump Supporters think he'll actually pull it out. Confidence gap, bring me depressed GOP turnout!

Bassetking
Feb 20, 2008

And it is, it is a glorious thing, to be a Basset King!

TheBigAristotle posted:

Obamacare is a lovely blowjob to insurance companies. I want it to work, I want single-payer eventually. But I am still waiting on an explanation from the left as to how the ACA isn't a debacle.

As someone put in charge of tracking employee hours at my previous job for the ACA, I can say at the very least it's an additional pain in the rear end for any HR person.

That said, my stock in Paychex is doing great.

I know that this is from several pages back, but the reason the ACA isn't a debacle is that I no longer have to live with the constant looming threat of being late on a payment, and suddenly being locked out of all insurance forever.

If just for the peace of mind it's brought to the individuals in the riskiest pools, it's an unmitigated success.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Reaganomicon posted:

does the ny times projection of 93% chance of Hillary winning sound about right?

Sounds low to me.

We're deep inside the point where him winning means something absolutely insane happened, like a video of Hillary having sex with a collie. And I'm not even sure that would be a guarantee.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Bassetking posted:

I know that this is from several pages back, but the reason the ACA isn't a debacle is that I no longer have to live with the constant looming threat of being late on a payment, and suddenly being locked out of all insurance forever.

If just for the peace of mind it's brought to the individuals in the riskiest pools, it's an unmitigated success.

It's been nice that I can actually get health insurance and coverage for my arthritis and psych meds.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love
African Origin of Civilization - Cheikh Anita Diop
How Europe Underdeveloped Africa - Walter Rodney
The Autobiography of Malcolm X - Alex Heley

And yes Star Trek made made me a dirty commie

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Bassetking posted:

I know that this is from several pages back, but the reason the ACA isn't a debacle is that I no longer have to live with the constant looming threat of being late on a payment, and suddenly being locked out of all insurance forever.

If just for the peace of mind it's brought to the individuals in the riskiest pools, it's an unmitigated success.

The removal of the concept of "pre-existing conditions" was a huge deal as well, because insurance companies loved to claim anything and everything as pre-existing.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


The "Trump is a child" article is a good excuse to repost these:











Valentin
Sep 16, 2012

this segment of the nyt piece is painfully self-aware, coming from trump

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

WampaLord posted:

The removal of the concept of "pre-existing conditions" was a huge deal as well, because insurance companies loved to claim anything and everything as pre-existing.

Including "being a woman" in a lot of cases

aellisr
Oct 11, 2007

Alveolar fibrosis don't give a damn.

Chokes McGee posted:

Health providers are complicit in inflating costs, though. MRIs at a hospital for like $2k can be done at a private medical facility for a few hundred. Whether this is a side effect or a driving factor, I don't know.

Also, stop me if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but who the gently caress cares about Medicare being insolvent if it's a government-run entity? Isn't this like complaining the post office doesn't make a profit?

I have to take issue with that. Hospital boards handle the gross majority of financials in regards to how much procedure X or Y costs and that is pitted against national averages. Some facilities do bill maximum cost for procedures, but it is seldom reimbursed at a maximum rate. Costs are inflated due to a host of factors revolving around readmission of patients within a defined time frame, the actual facility cost of operation to outfit a clinical site, and ultimately the general poor health of the population in conjunction with the way insurance will pay out for each admission for said population.

Medicare becoming insolvent would greatly compromise the viability of not-for-profit institutions, of which there are many, that impact the lives of millions of people living in rural areas.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

WeAreTheRomans posted:

Gotcha. Fuckkkk that, she might have to worry about that soon....

It is also worth noting that once you hit that bracket, even though you are technically only taxed on the difference between the writeoff and the amount you are paid, my understanding is that there is a significant filing fee for expats who actually owe money to the US. It was a few years back when I read about it though.

Bassetking
Feb 20, 2008

And it is, it is a glorious thing, to be a Basset King!

TVs Ian posted:

I wouldn't have insurance at all if it wasn't for ACA, so not a total debacle. My company is too small to offer insurance, my wife's company charges $900+/month for a crappy plan, and we tried to just buy a plan before ACA but couldn't due to pre-existing conditions.

While I would greatly prefer single-payer, or at least a Medicare buy-in for everyone as one of the plans, it's an improvement over the way it was before.

My wife is actually super mad at her mom right now because of this. Her mom is one of those "There is nothing Trump could say or do to change my mind about voting for him" people. Even with her pointing out, "I would probably be totally bedridden and dead in less than 10 years without medical care that Trump and his party want to take away" doesn't change anything.

Your wife is good people. Thank her for me.

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010


This is too good

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
I will admit the ADA has been amazing for me because it forced my University to give me a full time faculty contract with benefits rather than just giving me multiple adjunct contracts every semester

NomChompsky
Sep 17, 2008


This is actually nicer than his real handwriting, which is unintelligible scribbles that alternate between lowercase and uppercase letters totally at random.

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BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

Night10194 posted:

What? That fucker Andrew Jackson stole Toledo and its port from us and gave it to Ohio because they voted for him. Then he tried to give us the UP to mollify the Michiganders he'd robbed, thinking it was worthless, then it turned out to be excellent timbering and mining land and then the railroad boom happened and made water travel less essential so we really ended up coming out the better, proving God was on the side of Michigan like always. Except all the times we've screwed ourselves by being a pack of hollering idiots.

My point is that Wisconsin had nothing to do with it and got screwed. So gently caress Andrew Jackson. I'm glad he's dead. :colbert:

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