PT6A posted:

I'm sick of being a centrist and a pragmatist, I get poo poo on from all sides.

Baronjutter posted:

PT6A posted:

I'm sick of being a centrist and a pragmatist, I get poo poo on from all sides.

Brannock posted:

Just ignore the extremists

PT6A posted:

some Randian/Mad Max hellhole with no public services.

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According to the ITO, that afternoon Colten Boushie and his girlfriend Kiora Wuttunee went swimming in the Maymont River with their friends Eric Meechance, his girlfriend, Belinda Jackson, and a young man named Cassidy Whitstone.

The young people had been drinking during the day and some of them said they were drunk, according to the statements they gave police. They were riding in Ms. Wuttunee’s grey 2003 Ford Escape. At about 5:30 pm they arrived at the Stanley farm, after, according to the document, visiting a neighbouring farm belonging to the Fouhy family, where they “attempted to steal vehicles and items,” the ITO says.

Sheldon Stanley was helping his father Gerald build a fence when Colten and his friends drove up the gravel driveway from the main road that runs in front of their property. Leesa Stanley, Gerald’s wife, was mowing the lawn a short distance away.

Sheldon told police he saw the Ford Escape slow near a pickup parked in their yard. Then he saw a young man, it’s not clear who, but almost certainly not Colten Boushie, get out of the Escape and jump into the pickup. Then Sheldon said he heard the Stanleys’ ATV starting up. Sheldon and his father started to yell, and the young man jumped back into the Ford Escape. Sheldon said the vehicle swerved in his direction. Sheldon, who was carrying a large hammer, smashed the windshield of the Escape as it was reversing. His father, meanwhile, kicked in the taillight. The Escape lurched forward and collided with a parked car belonging to the Stanleys.

Sheldon said he saw two men get out of the Escape and run off, while two women, and Colten Boushie, stayed behind. At this point Sheldon said he went to the house to get truck keys. While he was inside he heard two gunshots, and then as he stepped outside again, he heard a third.

He saw his father, Gerald Stanley, standing at the driver’s side window of the Ford Escape with a gun in his hand. His father looked sick, Sheldon said. He said his father told him he was trying to scare the kids and the gun “just went off.”

Gerald Stanley gave a separate statement to investigators. In his account he told police that after he kicked in the car’s taillight, he went to get his gun. He says he went to a nearby shed where he kept what police believe was a Russian-designed Tokarev TT33 semi-automatic handgun (one of two handguns registered in his name), and loaded it.

When he came back to the car he fired twice in the air to scare the group. Two people got out of the car and ran away, he said. Eric Meechance, in his interview, said he believes the bullets were fired at him because he heard two shots and could hear bullets buzzing by him as he ran away.

Gerald Stanley then agreed with the RCMP officer interviewing him that he “went up to the driver’s side window and shot the male driver once in the head and killed him.”

The bullet that killed Colten Boushie was fired into the back of his head, just behind his left ear. That was confirmed by the forensic identification officer who attended the scene.

According to Kiora Wuttunee, Colten’s girlfriend, Colten was sitting in the car’s backseat next to her as she slept. When Ms. Wuttunee awoke she saw Eric Meechance and Cassidy Whitstone get out and run. Colten clambered into the front seat and tried to make the vehicle go, but “it wouldn’t go anywhere,” as it had a flat tire.

Ms. Wuttunee says she saw a tall man in sunglasses approach the driver’s side of the vehicle. Without saying a word he shot Colten once in the head, she told police. She and Belinda Jackson got out of the backseat and tried to help Colten. When they opened the driver’s door Colten’s lifeless body tumbled out. He lay face down on the ground as blood trickled from his head. As she tried to come to grips with her boyfriend’s slaying, Ms. Wuttunee said she approached Leesa Stanley, Gerald’s wife, who was standing near the car. Ms. Wuttunee said she asked Ms. Stanley why they’d killed Colten. Ms. Stanley replied by saying “something about property,” the ITO states. Ms. Wuttunee later told Colten’s relatives the phrase was: “That’s what you get for trespassing on private property.”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/colten-boushie/article32451940/

Postess with the Mostest posted:

Speaking of Saskatchewan

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Murphy said that when he went back to Astro Towing the following day to take pictures of the vehicle, the car was gone. He's concerned key evidence may have been lost.

"It had been transferred to a SGI salvage lot where we attended and were told that the vehicle, once the claim was settled with the owner, would be put up on auction and sold to the highest bidder," said Murphy.

According to Murphy, he said he brought to the attention of the RCMP and Crown attorney that the vehicle was missing, gave them an exact location and requested they reclaim the vehicle for forensics.

"I'm trying to get an answer whether or not that car got re-seized by the RCMP. But they won't provide me with an answer."

Murphy said it's his understanding that, upon questioning RCMP, prior to the vehicle being released from the tow yard, a blood-spatter analysis was not conducted on the vehicle.

"Whatever forensic test the RCMP did, they neglected to do a blood spatter analysis," he said.

"In my experience as a criminal lawyer, a blood spatter analysis can provide extremely important evidence. You can determine, in many instances, where a person was sitting or where Colten was sitting in this case, exactly when he was shot in the back of head. You can determine if he was sitting upright. You can determine if he was bent over," said Murphy.

Seat Safety Switch posted:

You might think that Ford Escape would be valuable evidence, but actually the RCMP just left it exposed to the elements in a tow lot for months before presumably having sold it at auction:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/colten-boushie-family-lawyer-key-piece-evidence-compromise-1.3819161

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Justin Trudeau greeted by heckles and jeers at youth labour forum

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was heckled and jeered as he took questions today at a youth labour forum in Ottawa.

Several dozen delegates at the young workers’ summit turned their backs on Trudeau as he spoke while many others held signs reading “Keep the Promise.”

As the prime minister took questions, he also criticized the back turners, saying he was disappointed that they appeared unwilling to listen.

Trudeau said the action sends the wrong signal to the other young people in the room.

Many of the delegates criticized the Liberal government for considering signing onto the Trans Pacific trade deal and complained about the effects of so-called precarious work on their lives.

Trudeau was booed when he responded that precarious work — including jobs with no pensions — is now a fact of life.

The prime minister added that’s why his government pushed so hard to improve the Canada Pension Plan.

Subjunctive posted:

The kids are alright.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ampaign_id=A100

Subjunctive posted:

(Actually the kids are probably hosed.)

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NIAGARA FALLS, Ont. — Finance Minister Bill Morneau says Canadians should get used to so-called "job churn'' — short-term employment and a number of career changes in a person's life.

DariusLikewise posted:

Morneau said something to the same effect.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/10/23/bill-morneau-job-churn_n_12612230.html

Jordan7hm posted:

Should he be saying otherwise?

Helsing posted:

There's something magical about our pampered trust fund prime minister getting huffy and upset because the kids who his government has concluded will be working lovely low-paying jobs for their entire lives aren't using active listening techniques when he speaks.

Newfie posted:

Liberal politician apologizes for telling Labrador First Nations to just stop eating fish if government action at muskrat falls causes their food supply to become tainted with methyl mercury.

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3818408?client=ms-android-htc-rev


This has been part of an ongoing series of protests against the falls in Labrador due concerns over poisoning caused by flooding the area without spending the money to remove the surrounding bio matter to stop it from being an issue. Some good signs were recently at protests in Ottawa saying "truth and reconciliation and poison". If you want a great example about how all levels of government give no fucks about First Nations, look no further.

Fried Watermelon posted:

Yeah maybe he should try to be a bit more optimistic rather than say just get used to it.

Maybe say something on how to try and prevent young people being doomed to poo poo jobs

Three Hole Punk posted:

This blows my mind. I've been trying to track down info on where the mercury came from but I can't find any. Regardless, methylated mercury compounds are not to be hosed with unless you enjoy dying via slow brain death I'm a quivering heap.

peter banana posted:

What about innovation? You know, moving from a resources based economy to a knowledge economy? Did we try that one yet?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/retirement/retire-planning/many-canadians-entering-retirement-with-inadequate-savings-study-says/article28761394/ posted:

A large percentage of older, working Canadians are heading into retirement without adequate savings to keep them out of poverty, a new study suggests.

Half of Canadian couples between 55 and 64 have no employer pension between them, and of those, less than 20 per cent of middle-income families have saved enough to adequately supplement government benefits and the Canada/Quebec Pension Plan, says the report, to be released Tuesday by the Broadbent Institute.

Fried Watermelon posted:

Yeah maybe he should try to be a bit more optimistic rather than say just get used to it.

Maybe say something on how to try and prevent young people being doomed to poo poo jobs

blah_blah posted:

Yeah, what's wrong with the complete disappearance of pensions for the middle class (with the exception of public sector workers)?

The Butcher posted:

So then we've got more programmers, scientists, engineer types etc coming out the pipeline, but we need more jobs for them to work at, or a glut of qualified workers will just drive down wages for the existing jobs.

So where do the new jobs come from? I guess this is the tricky innovation step. Give out big rear end grants to anyone who wants to give their idea/company a shot? More favorable taxation for new businesses?

DariusLikewise posted:

Worth nothing that both companies I've gotten severance from have also paid for 6 months of career counselling through Morneau Shepell as part of the package.

PT6A posted:

Indeed that's a problem, but there are better solutions than saying everyone should have a single long-term career when that's clearly not a sustainable model for employment any more.

TheKingofSprings posted:

Has there been any point in the last 100 years where the economic growth rate outpaced population growth?

flakeloaf posted:

This hasn't been the case for a while though, yeah? There are no lifers in my circle of same-age friends, and the group about a decade younger have already either switched or are thinking about/about to/will soon have to switch.

THC posted:

Try getting laid off while living paycheck to paycheck a couple times, maybe throw in a couple dependents or a chronic medical condition just for argument's sake, and come back and tell me how very sane that made you feel and what a sustainable model for employment that is