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WampaLord posted:The guy is definitely hosed with the amount of media he consumes, but her attitude is kinda weird as well. It's like she can't separate fiction from reality and must react as though the things happening on the TV are real. Who has to throw up because they saw something on TV? someone who hasn't been desensitized to the massive amount of violence in our media could easily be physically disgusted by it. I mean I like to think I've seen some horrible poo poo (on the TV) but any given episode of game of thrones where they don't just sit around and talk to each other contains so much horrific graphic poo poo that I legitimately feel bad after having watched it I think having an averse reaction to severe human suffering is an extremely basic empathetic monkey brain reaction and modern humanity conditioning themselves out of that through violent media is the real tragedy here they should
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Fullhouse posted:someone who hasn't been desensitized to the massive amount of violence in our media could easily be physically disgusted by it. I mean I like to think I've seen some horrible poo poo (on the TV) but any given episode of game of thrones where they don't just sit around and talk to each other contains so much horrific graphic poo poo that I legitimately feel bad after having watched it On the other hand, even as a child, one is told to separate fantasy from reality and the lack of ability to do that is troubling.
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 20:21 |
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Of course the chick doesn't think it's real, but poo poo can be depressing even if I know it's just a movie or whatever. I'm not going to watch requiem for a dream before a toddlers birthday party bc I know the movie will bum me out for a bit.
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 20:22 |
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Fullhouse posted:I think having an averse reaction to severe human suffering is an extremely basic empathetic monkey brain reaction and modern humanity conditioning themselves out of that through violent media is the real tragedy here uhhh any time before now was way more violent, it's the lack of actual violence that has rendered humans unable to deal with media depicting it
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 20:23 |
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best bale posted:Of course the chick doesn't think it's real, but poo poo can be depressing even if I know it's just a movie or whatever. I'm not going to watch requiem for a dream before a toddlers birthday party bc I know the movie will bum me out for a bit. Yes, but will it make you literally vomit? Because that's the sticking point to me, she saw Game of Thrones and literally threw up.
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 20:26 |
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WampaLord posted:Yes, but will it make you literally vomit? Because that's the sticking point to me, she saw Game of Thrones and literally threw up. I'm literally shaking irl. (Not really) I agree that part stuck out as odd to me. I was hoping she was exaggerating for effect, if not, yikes. Even if that was her true physical reaction, it's not hurting anyone and that dudes a dick if he honestly can't handle someone not watching all of his favorite shows with him. But in regards to your point, yeah, that seems extreme. Edited for clarification best bale fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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My wife actually got mad at me for showing her GoT the first time I tried because she saw the first scene and thought it was gonna be all creepy ice zombie children all the time but then she heard other people talk about it, figured out that wasn't the case, got over it, and watched the rest of it because she's an adult but before that happened I shrugged and just watched it by myself until she changed her mind independently of me because I'm an adult e: I actually do get that if you're really emotionally invested in showing something to someone, and you really want them to like it, it's frustrating if they're just zoned out browsing Facebook on their phone when The Good Part happens but I also think it's possible to both knit and watch TV at the same time loquacius fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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I had a friend who could easily get super invested in whatever fiction she was taking in, whether it was TV and movies, books, video games or even tabletop rpg stuff. Hyper-violent stuff wasn't her thing because she got pretty lost in the experience and found it understandably uncomfortable. She didn't have a problem with separating fantasy from reality on the whole, but it was like she had the world's most chill suspension of disbelief. She would be a big blubbery mess if there was something sad on the screen, or super stoked during a exciting segment, but when it was over, she was back to normal. She loved the poo poo out of the Silent Hill games, so I dunno.
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 20:37 |
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loquacius posted:
Totally understand and you're right, it does suck. That's why I only show my wife stuff that she may actually like. If I love something but know for a fact it's not up her alley then I'll probably just tell her about it and not make her sit and watch it because I'm just setting both of us up for failure. I know she's not going to like it and I'm going to be kinda hurt/annoyed.
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 20:40 |
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people (myself included because I'm a big baby) can watch a show or whatever and cry over something that isn't real, so it's not much of a stretch for someone to have a different kind of reaction, even a physical one like vomiting. violence and sexual things make me super anxious and anxiety makes me nauseous. I've never thrown up from anxiety, I gag more often washing mayonnaise off a knife, but I can see why someone might have that reaction.
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 20:52 |
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also some people have a history of sexual victimization and that can actually lead to physical reactions to fictional depictions of similar situations -- she didn't say that's what's up with her but it's a thing that happens
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InediblePenguin posted:also some people have a history of sexual victimization and that can actually lead to physical reactions to fictional depictions of similar situations -- she didn't say that's what's up with her but it's a thing that happens I was actually totally willing to be 100% on her side if this was the reason, but if it was the reason you think she would say it, because it makes her argument way more sympathetic. Vomiting because you saw a fictional character get raped is hosed up.
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Yeah if she was being literally PTSD triggered she should probably tell her husband about that because it is relevant to this thing she's mad at him over
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I don't really see the issue with having intense physical reactions to depictions of violence, sexual or otherwise. Some people just don't want to see that poo poo in the same way a person wouldn't want to see swap.avi.
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 21:08 |
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It's a cycle anyway. I grew up loving that rotten.com true gore poo poo, and though I still consider myself a gorehound, I'm a lot more sensitive to it now than I was when I was 12, because now I've seen a lot more of it in real life.
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Charles Get-Out posted:I don't really see the issue with having intense physical reactions to depictions of violence, sexual or otherwise. Some people just don't want to see that poo poo in the same way a person wouldn't want to see swap.avi. Sure, but this is Game of Thrones, not hardcore Liveleaks.com poo poo. This is a dramatized "prettied up" (for lack of a better term) depiction of sexual violence. Assuming they're talking about Dany and Khal Drago's scene, it's very tame.
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WampaLord posted:Yes, but will it make you literally vomit? Because that's the sticking point to me, she saw Game of Thrones and literally threw up. I don't watch too much TV these days except for soccer and documentaries but watched plenty of violent stuff growing up and in my 20s. The other day I caught a bit of that Luke Cage at my girlfriend's place when her room mate was watching. Some woman had her arm cut wide open and they were doing surgery on it, have to say it rather turned my stomach so I can totally see someone throwing up from violence. It's incredibly graphic these days. WampaLord posted:Sure, but this is Game of Thrones, not hardcore Liveleaks.com poo poo. you've got a problem if you can call a rape scene tame JFairfax fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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The fact remains he's not trying to show her snuff films or something, he's trying to show her the most popular TV show on the air (citation needed) You can look away or whatever if you have to, but if you decide you can't handle a show that literally everyone under 35 loves because of a graphic scene you might be exhibiting a little learned helplessness
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loquacius posted:The fact remains he's not trying to show her snuff films or something, he's trying to show her the most popular TV show on the air (citation needed)
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I agree, it was an extremely correct post, thanks for the support
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loquacius posted:The fact remains he's not trying to show her snuff films or something, he's trying to show her the most popular TV show on the air (citation needed) I don't watch it because it's bad and for idiots
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WampaLord posted:Sure, but this is Game of Thrones, not hardcore Liveleaks.com poo poo. I mean yeah it shows she's sheltered and a bit naive maybe, but the the dude is a pissy pants babby about his non-hobby and definitely more deserving of ridicule out of the two. edit: He reminds me of when I was 5 and got sad my parents didn't like Zelda as much as I did
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Charles Get-Out posted:I mean yeah it shows she's sheltered and a bit naive maybe, but the the dude is a pissy pants babby about his non-hobby and definitely more deserving of ridicule out of the two. I totally agree! But "vomited due to seeing Game of Thrones scene" was too good to pass up mocking. The dude is terrible and should get some more active hobbies.
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 21:29 |
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multiple people under 35 don't watch that show because they got sick of the constant violence and rape but okay yeah you're right and it's literally only this woman and her dislike of a tv show requires a psych diagnosis
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loquacius posted:I agree, it was an extremely correct post, thanks for the support
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Improbable Lobster posted:I don't watch it because it's bad and for idiots That post maybe came out more In Defense Of Game Of Thrones than I intended, what I was trying to say is that people ITT are acting like it's some kind of underground gore-porn poo poo when it's basically the most mainstream show there is whose name doesn't start with "CSI" InediblePenguin posted:multiple people under 35 don't watch that show because they got sick of the constant violence and rape but okay yeah you're right and it's literally only this woman and her dislike of a tv show requires a psych diagnosis I saw some people on Facebook say they would do this after The Worst Season ended but then after the next one started they were posting about it again like clockwork loquacius fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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InediblePenguin posted:multiple people under 35 don't watch that show because they got sick of the constant violence and rape but okay yeah you're right and it's literally only this woman and her dislike of a tv show requires a psych diagnosis I don't watch it for that reason but it sure doesn't make me need to throw up.
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 21:35 |
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I agree that there are very valid reasons to not watch GoT because of the constant sexual assault and hyper violence, but it's also messed up and indicative of major issues if someone's throwing up over it.
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 21:49 |
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The other end of the spectrum is people who become too desensitized to violence and sex stuff. That's how you get poo poo like guro, and the pain Olympics
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You can function perfectly well in society while also having visceral reactions to depictions of sexual violence and mutilation. Out in society there's tons of people who choose to not watch Game of Thrones due a dislike of its graphic content.
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Just gonna chime in to say that being uncomfortable with violence and/or rape on TV (among other things that make people cringe) isn't always a difficulty with separating fantasy and reality: http://www.steadyhealth.com/articles/exploring-hyper-empathy-syndrome I have to leave the room during really violent/rape scenes (the GoT one that got people boycotting the series made me physically ill) and still can't stomach watching surgical shows but I still managed to focus my film thesis on the Rambo series. Some violence is more believable than others, which is where I struggle with shows that try to be "authentic". And yeah, she kinda comes off a half-step away from bragging about not owning a TV but it sounds like he's projecting his own insecurity with building his personality around popular television and is upset she views his interest as background noise. edit - vvv When I worked at a major book chain, one of our most damaged items were the Penthouse letters people wouldn't bother to shoplift but leave in the men's room. I thought those stories were way too ridiculous for people to believe but at least they didn't preface each one with Sleeping with a friend (45M)to repay a favor and I (22F) never thought it would happen to me! Dirtbag Diva fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Something that's not about TVquote:A friend [21M] helped me [21F] a lot. I had sex with him as a way of appreciation. Another friend [21M] is accusing me of hurting him.
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 21:55 |
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Shut up about game of thrones now
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 21:56 |
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It's a little weird to repay debts with sex.
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 21:58 |
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Dayum she is a cool friend
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 21:58 |
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I'm sure that guy did get attached to her immediately, no victories for him. That was pretty nice of her and I think it was a fine thing to do, she stated why upfront, but I'm sure that dude's hurting. Finally conquering that mountain and having sex only to realize it's approximately as fulfilling as jerking off if there's no emotion behind it. I'm not gonna laugh at him, it's sad.Lunchmeat Larry posted:Shut up about game of thrones now
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loquacius posted:I saw some people on Facebook say they would do this after The Worst Season ended but then after the next one started they were posting about it again like clockwork Edit: sorry for continuing the derail, I'm on my phone and the thread moved faster than I saw while laboriously typing my very very important post here
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# ? Oct 25, 2016 21:59 |
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Things really could've been different for that poor printer carrying goon if he had only accidentally printed out some posts about being a sad virgin when he got there
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Leon Einstein posted:It's a little weird to repay debts with sex. Yeah, if it's an actual debt payment. Like if there is an official debt owed and it's like "I have no cash, I will pay with this sex" or "you owe me, I will take my payment in sex" then that is very weird and also bad. But a person thinking "wow what a nice thing this person did for me. I like this person. I will initiate the sex on account of these good feelings" then I think that's ok.
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Some debts are okay to repay with sex, like favors owed. Some are not, like cash debt at 2.49% APR. Some are ambiguous, like wookiee life debts - it depends on if they are "into" wookiees.
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