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quote:Mercedes I'll reserve judgment until I see an ad with industrial equipment dumping a bedload of redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Valentino handbags with those big spikes.
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Oct 25, 2016 23:36
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Deteriorata posted:Yes, I did, over in the Post Your Ride thread. I'll repost it here just for you! I'm seriously mulling over an abarth one, then popping a tune in. 200whp/220tq+ would be insanely fun in a car that light.
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Oct 25, 2016 23:47
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Throatwarbler posted:It's here guys Im still struggling to see the target market that would choose this over a King Ranch or equivalent from Chevy/GM?
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Oct 26, 2016 02:01
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Kanish posted:Im still struggling to see the target market that would choose this over a King Ranch or equivalent from Chevy/GM? Probably why it's not being sold in the US.
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Oct 26, 2016 02:03
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Farking Bastage posted:I'm seriously mulling over an abarth one, then popping a tune in. 200whp/220tq+ would be insanely fun in a car that light. 160 HP/180 ft-lbs is pretty fun as is. I'm tempted to buy a tune myself, but not right away. I'm not a modder, though, and have no illusions of being Mario Andretti. The stock Lusso is plenty.
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Oct 26, 2016 02:04
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Powershift posted:Probably why it's not being sold in the US. Oh well that makes more sense then.
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Oct 26, 2016 02:04
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Deteriorata posted:160 HP/180 ft-lbs is pretty fun as is. I'm tempted to buy a tune myself, but not right away. I'm not a modder, though, and have no illusions of being Mario Andretti. The stock Lusso is plenty. My daily is a '13 WRX but you really can't wring it out without the chance of losing your license since it's pushing 100 if you wind out third gear. Also I really want a convertible now. AI seems to hate the 124, but I see it as being so much fun just from the tune-ability of a turbo engine that's usually backed way off to meet emissions and economy targets. These days you can get MAYBE 5% gains on a N/A engine in comparison. If Mazda chose to make a "mazdaspeed" MX-5 again, I'd be all over it, but they refuse to, so here we are. Farking Bastage fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Oct 26, 2016 |
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Oct 26, 2016 02:58
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8 series is coming back http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/10/bmws-new-flagship-coupe/
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Oct 26, 2016 11:19
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Whiz Palace posted:The thread title should be "Read about a new car you hate? Bitch about it here, in the news thread!" If designers were actually allowed to make cool poo poo it'd be a thread full of cool cars...
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Oct 26, 2016 11:38
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blk posted:8 series is coming back http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/10/bmws-new-flagship-coupe/ Oooo...with a 12... I'd love to have a car with a 12. Couldn't afford one new though, and sure as hell couldn't afford to keep a used one running. 
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Oct 26, 2016 14:46
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Alfa Giulia sales figures in September. Note that in many of the countries it only became possible to order one in middle of September. The statistics also demonstrate importance of a wagon version in the European market. FCA promptly responded by announcing that a wagon version is coming: http://europe.autonews.com/article/20161026/ANE/161029902/alfa-will-add-a-giulia-wagon-to-boost-european-sales  
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Oct 26, 2016 16:39
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I feel like that second chart explains why you shouldn't call your 2 door and 4 door version of the same car by different names.
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Oct 26, 2016 16:41
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Once again, Europe is ahead of us.
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Oct 26, 2016 23:53
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I would so but an xe if I had the means, but comparing options on that second chart the V60 would be really tempting.
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Oct 27, 2016 05:23
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Brand new car and they're already getting crushed. If it's not delivery problems that sort themselves out very quickly, that's bad news for FCA.
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Oct 27, 2016 13:26
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Brand new car and they're already getting crushed. If it's not delivery problems that sort themselves out very quickly, that's bad news for FCA. Did you know that the Maserati Levante has already been on sale for two months? They should be racking up those orders now that you can get a Maserati SUV for $70k.
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Oct 27, 2016 13:42
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Brand new car and they're already getting crushed. If it's not delivery problems that sort themselves out very quickly, that's bad news for FCA. In many of the countries it only became possible order one in September and in UK (4th largest market) it was not sold yet. On top of that only the diesels are currently in delivery. I know people who ordered theirs when it became possible an took deliveries of their diesels in October. Those who ordered petrol engined versions expect deliveries "by christmas". I think they are pretty much on track for their global annual sales target of 75 000 - 100 000. Edit: Note, Giulia was not yet sold in UK in September. All the others in the statistics of my previous post were. 
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Oct 27, 2016 14:26
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-maintenance/news/a30437/nissan-b13-sentra-cancelled/   ^ that one had a SR16VE w/ N1 cams in it...best changeover sound ever  ah Good times...if u have never driven owned/driven a B13 SE-R then shame on u - the mint '90 240SX i had circa 2k3 was a total stone borefest in comparison  Olympic Mathlete posted:I hated the ND initially but it's grown on me quite a lot to the point where I quite like it. I  what they did here...
Mariana Horchata fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 27, 2016 15:36
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I'm pretty sure the B13s had ABS available, at least in Canada. The GXEs could have them as an option. Strange it couldn't be retrofitted.
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Oct 27, 2016 15:45
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also Elon seriously needs to just drone this whiny shill already or maybe just rocket her into outer space ehhh...you know what to do EM https://www.autonews.com/article/20161024/RETAIL01/310249997/teslas-arguments-in-defense-of-direct-sales-are-wrong
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Oct 27, 2016 17:44
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Let's not say anything negative of beloved Tesla.
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Oct 27, 2016 18:09
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travisray2004 posted:Let's not say anything negative of beloved Tesla. Praise be to Elon. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/791389989477036032
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Oct 27, 2016 18:55
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New Mercedes lineup will use exclusively 4l V8, 3l I6 and 2l I4s
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Oct 29, 2016 23:45
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Throatwarbler posted:New Mercedes lineup will use exclusively 4l V8, 3l I6 and 2l I4s You missed the fun bit, the big list of things that can't possible go wrong, and will be cheap and easy to fix in the rare case they do. quote:A host of innovations will go into series production in 2017: My personal favorite. quote:The six-cylinder in-line engine features systematic electrification. For example, there is no belt drive for ancillary components at the front of the engine, which reduces its overall length. So the only accessory being driven by the engine is a 48v 15kw combination starter/alternator that can recover energy from the road while coasting, power the start/stop system, and provides electricity for electric motors to turn the water pump and A/C. A whole bunch of fun reading here http://media.daimler.com/marsMediaSite/en/instance/ko.xhtml?oid=14314786
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Oct 30, 2016 00:00
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Powershift posted:You missed the fun bit, the big list of things that can't possible go wrong, and will be cheap and easy to fix in the rare case they do. I'm honestly surprised that more cars haven't moved to higher voltage electrical systems. I know GM pondered it when they started throwing electric power steering on everything that isn't a Corvette, but they didn't pull the trigger.
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Oct 30, 2016 00:15
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I like the idea of the V8 and I6 but that's a lot of stuff to break.
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Oct 30, 2016 01:08
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Powershift posted:You missed the fun bit, the big list of things that can't possible go wrong, and will be cheap and easy to fix in the rare case they do. Sounds like the kind of thing there really should be two of.
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Oct 30, 2016 01:11
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I like the idea of the V8 and I6 but that's a lot of stuff to break. Who cares, it only has to last as long as your lease
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Oct 30, 2016 01:25
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MrYenko posted:I'm honestly surprised that more cars haven't moved to higher voltage electrical systems. I know GM pondered it when they started throwing electric power steering on everything that isn't a Corvette, but they didn't pull the trigger. The rest of the car is still going to be 12v, just the engine energy recover/starting/accessories will be on the 48v system for the foreseeable future. Basically, every mercedes will be a mild low-voltage hybrid, with the larger engines having the starter/alternator in between the engine and transmission, and the smaller engines having it belt driven from the position of the alternator. In THEORY, it's actually quite reasonable, as it ditches both the alternator and starter in favor of a single unit. The water pump doesn't have to be inacessible, 10 minutes to unplug the electrical connector and 2 hose clamps to swap it out. The A/C compressor doesn't need a clutch and doesn't even need to be in the engine bay. In practice, mercedes. You can see the Plastic water pump in that picture down beside the motor mount, nearly touching the god drat downpipe, you'll have to remove the front left corner of the car to get at the A/C pump, and half of the 48v motors driving the two of those will be made out of glass. Also, the starter/alternator will randomly gently caress up and be inside the bell housing of the transmission again for ze packaging, and cost $8000 and 143 hours to replace.  Just picture getting your e-torx socket on that top bolt there. when it's up in the belly of the car. Powershift fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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Oct 30, 2016 01:28
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It's not like water pumps ever go wrong in German cars.
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Oct 30, 2016 01:51
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Throatwarbler posted:New Mercedes lineup will use exclusively 4l V8, 3l I6 and 2l I4s
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Oct 30, 2016 04:30
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I think it'd be cooler if it was exclusively 2L V4s, 3L V6s and 4L V8s because then they could make em all from like 70% identical parts. Also it would mean a 6L V12.
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Oct 30, 2016 04:44
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Sagebrush posted:I think it'd be cooler if it was exclusively 2L V4s, 3L V6s and 4L V8s because then they could make em all from like 70% identical parts. Mercedes is apparently just stamping out 0.5L cylinders and assembling them like Lego into whatever configuration they need.
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Oct 30, 2016 04:52
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Sagebrush posted:I think it'd be cooler if it was exclusively 2L V4s, 3L V6s and 4L V8s because then they could make em all from like 70% identical parts. Modern V engines aren't all 90deg, right? If so, would all blocks and heads (for airflow optimization) be unrelated?
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Oct 30, 2016 06:38
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They could do it like a detroit with heads with 2 cyl each. The V4 is 2 heads, have an i6 instead of a v6 with 3, the v8 is 4 heads, the v12 6. That naturally means an i8 and V16 are also technically possibilities. Then also make everything 2 stroke with a blower and a turbo.
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Oct 30, 2016 06:50
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Sagebrush posted:I think it'd be cooler if it was exclusively 2L V4s, 3L V6s and 4L V8s because then they could make em all from like 70% identical parts. Presumably the bulk of the production will be the 4 and the 6 and those do share most of the parts. kimbo305 posted:Modern V engines aren't all 90deg, right? If so, would all blocks and heads (for airflow optimization) be unrelated? Probably the 90deg V6 has some packaging constraints in a transverse FWD layout. All the ones on the market and there are a surprising number of them, are on longitudinal mountings.
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Oct 30, 2016 15:52
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Question is can I get a merc I6 without the mild hybrid stuff (And can i toon it ter fi hunnert) and when will it show up in cpo lots This is actually getting me excited about mercs. Potentially High revving lowish displacement turbo v8s and a non bmw I6. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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Oct 30, 2016 18:02
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Question is can I get a merc I6 without the mild hybrid stuff It comes from the factory with 408 so probably.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Question is can I get a merc I6 without the mild hybrid stuff No, it seems the engine is designed around the hybrid system. Just convince yourself it's actually KERS and you're basically in an F1 car.
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