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drgitlin posted:Don't be sad it's over, be happy it happened. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/10/audis-legendary-le-mans-program-to-end-in-2016/ am I foolish to expect the current high-nose R18+ showing up next year at Le Mans with fluorescent white and dashes of paint ala the Champion Audis of yore?  kind of a shame they can't pass the factory cars to anybody else (or a private Team Joest) to continue for one more year with the older machine, but so goes life.(also, double-check your caption for the R10 for 2007)
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iospace posted:Speaking of LMPs, Oreca's new LMP2 offering. Can you rehost this? Facebook be blocked, yo.
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MazeOfTzeentch posted:Can you rehost this? Facebook be blocked, yo. I got you brudda http://imgur.com/a/vKUJw
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George Zimmer posted:From Team Joest itself: Well, BMW needs a WEC GTLM team and they've cheated on Porsche/Audi before (with Opel, of all brands).
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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harperdc posted:am I foolish to expect the current high-nose R18+ showing up next year at Le Mans with fluorescent white and dashes of paint ala the Champion Audis of yore? Yes, that's not going to happen. And thanks, will check it shortly.
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I mean theres nothing preventing a private make from purchasing one of those cars if they had more money than god, but noone would be that foolhardy. I mean a LMP1-HY runs about 100M per year, its literally pissing money down a hole for no gain.
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For that kinda money a GT team could basically buy factory support and go out and win anything. The only way we're gonna get factory cars like that in privateer hands is through some type of homologation.
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no bones about it posted:I mean theres nothing preventing a private make from purchasing one of those cars if they had more money than god, but noone would be that foolhardy. I mean a LMP1-HY runs about 100M per year, its literally pissing money down a hole for no gain. Actually Toyota Motorsport only spends ~$80 million a year for a 2-car team.
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RIP some amazing cars. Glad I got to see the Audis once (the older open-cockpit ones, maybe 2007?).
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drgitlin posted:Actually Toyota Motorsport only spends ~$80 million a year for a 2-car team. A winning LMP1-HY runs 100m a year 
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Riso posted:Speaking about Dieselgate, there's some fun stuff happening in Germany because a VW paid expertise came to the conclusion ALL diesel cars sold in Germany that cheated are breaking the law and not road legal. Of course if VW is not allowed to sell diesel cars then they're gonna try to make it so other companies not under VAG are unable to sell them too.
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So, one of the theories proposed in the German article that came out last month about Audi leaving WEC centered around the use of diesel. Not just Dieselgate having a corporate impact, but the rules changes for power units coming in and making diesel engines even more handicapped than they are now. This comes into play because one of the reasons the VAG board allowed both Audi and Porsche to play was relying on them using the two different fuels to showcase different technology. If that isn't happening and Audi would want to switch back to a petrol engine again, then that means two teams using a similar technology, and Porsche apparently has the juice to keep the Le Mans program over Audi. Which is a shame. Porsche has a long history at Le Mans and in prototype racing, of course, but Audi has been the anchor of Le Mans since 2000. Not just from the victories and success, but just because they've always been there. They went from an upstart to a powerhouse to a legend, and I'm happy that I could see this era of sports car racing. Now I'm sad I couldn't make Fuji this year...again  [edit] once more, for old time's sake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKjVQbYcTiY harperdc fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Riso posted:Speaking about Dieselgate, there's some fun stuff happening in Germany because a VW paid expertise came to the conclusion ALL diesel cars sold in Germany that cheated are breaking the law and not road legal. Didn't it even go even further and VW said they'd pay to retest all their cars but only if the government agreed to retest all other cars in the market? Everything I read about the company is completely hosed and at this point I wouldnt be shocked if Porsche is gone from WEC next year as well. The infighting between the Porsche/Piech families has just created a power vacuum on the board that the unions have filled and they've (correctly) said that this whole dieselgate thing is a management/engineering problem and they're the ones that need to fall on the sword. So now they've basically culled or put out to pasture all their experienced engineers and have a corporate mandate to completely change direction as a company. Oh and I keep hearing rumours that Ferdinand Piech is still pulling strings here and there amidst all the chaos.
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Watching gymkhana grid this morning, the announcers tip toeing around all this lovely things ken block does was really offputting, and talking up any monster energy sponsored car every time they saw one made me never want to watch it again. It was satisfying to see block get his $600k+ car get beaten by a fatass evo though.
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I mean on the one hand I get that, on the other hand what are the chances you'd be watching gymkhana anything without Block?
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VikingSkull posted:I mean on the one hand I get that, on the other hand what are the chances you'd be watching gymkhana anything without Block? Well he wasn't even involved at the start, and even tried to sue them for using the gymkhana name. He seems to do it simply because it's somewhere he can go to beat up on privateers in $20,000 cars.
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Powershift posted:Well he wasn't even involved at the start, and even tried to sue them for using the gymkhana name. He seems to do it simply because it's somewhere he can go to beat up on privateers in $20,000 cars. That's because he can't actually drive well, outside of defined stunts to pull off on a certain circuit. Every time he tries to actually race real race drivers he gets smoked. He's a tubby bro douche that happens to have enough money to do whatever he wants.
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Powershift posted:Well he wasn't even involved at the start, and even tried to sue them for using the gymkhana name. He seems to do it simply because it's somewhere he can go to beat up on privateers in $20,000 cars. my point is he re-popularized a genre of racing that was withering on the vine prior to his dumb videos
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VikingSkull posted:my point is he re-popularized a genre of racing that was withering on the vine prior to his dumb videos What genre?
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Peanut President posted:What genre? offshore powerboat racing
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Man that ain't withering on the vine. Powerboat racing is dead and the vineyard has been plowed over and had a Lowe's built on top.
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Kind of like the NY Dirt scene ohohoho
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Y'all just love twisting the knife.
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At least Central NY Raceway is ready to open any day now!
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VW is rumored to be pulling out of the WRC. Joke series.
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Alain Post posted:VW is rumored to be pulling out of the WRC. Joke series. really says a lot that they have dominated the title in each of their four years and gotten, presumably, little to no appreciable return on that investment
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MazeOfTzeentch posted:Probably also related to VAG's pulling out (heh) of lots of motorsport to focus on paying their bills Fixed that for ya
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Congratulations Toyota 2017 WRC champions
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dsriggs posted:How's Syracuse working out, these days? dsriggs posted:At least Central NY Raceway is ready to open any day now! Meanwhile OCFS just had the 7th epic finish in a row  (I hate WRG so Syracuse being blown up and CNYRP failing makes me aroused, just fyi)
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julian assflange posted:Congratulations Toyota 2017 WRC champions
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