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The white male Lord of marvel trying to shut down a woman author with legitimate complaints about comic readership makes him look like a jackass regardless of what he "actually" meant
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That's why when I said what everyone else is saying I said "generously".
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Oct 26, 2016 21:34
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Just because he's being less delicate than he might be doesn't mean he's trying to shut her down. Maybe there's a "Ya dumb whiny broad" behind it. It's certainly not safe to assume.
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Oct 26, 2016 21:43
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Bendis has since said on Twitter that he wanted to say that it was a nerd culture problem rather than purely a comics problem but because he tweeted at 3am it didn't come across as he wanted.
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Oct 26, 2016 21:45
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Why is everybody making dumb tweets at 3am. Go to bed.
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Oct 26, 2016 21:50
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Starsnostars posted:Bendis has since said on Twitter that he wanted to say that it was a nerd culture problem rather than purely a comics problem but because he tweeted at 3am it didn't come across as he wanted. So literally what I intuited from the original tweet in the first place. Man it feels good being right.
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Oct 26, 2016 21:53
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Teenage Fansub posted:Just because he's being less delicate than he might be doesn't mean he's trying to shut her down. "I am leaving comics because of problem" "Comics does not have this problem" 
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Oct 26, 2016 21:59
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He said "it's not comics" not "it's not cruelty"
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Oct 26, 2016 22:02
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Lurdiak posted:"I am leaving comics because of problem" That's not what either of them said.
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Lurdiak posted:"I am leaving comics because of problem" Twitter is a bad place to express a nuanced opinion, more at 11. He's clarified his original opinion, said he settled the matter with Cain privately, deleted the original tweet (ed: actually he didn't do that, my bad), and admitted culpability while making abundantly clear he wasnt trying to marginalize her opinion. At this point pretending he was trying to silence Cain is arguing in openly bad faith. NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Oct 26, 2016 |
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Oct 26, 2016 22:06
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No one is actually arguing that, just that it sounded really lovely and a side glance is justified. You're getting way too defensive. Wait, are you Bendis?
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Oct 26, 2016 22:16
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The percentage of people who were attacking her that had actually read any comics during the time Mockingbird was published is probably tiny. As long as Marvel doesn't take them as having legitimate points and allow them any influence, she's hopefully just been able to lock them out of her life and can continue on.
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Oct 26, 2016 22:20
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WickedHate posted:No one is actually arguing that, just that it sounded really lovely and a side glance is justified. You're getting way too defensive. Wait, are you Bendis? Multiple people on this very page have argued that he was trying to shut Cain down.
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Oct 26, 2016 22:30
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Comics don't hurt people... I do! :smirkingvforvendettamask:
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Teenage Fansub posted:Comics don't hurt people... I do! :smirkingvforvendettamask: I don't know. I have read a few comics that have hurt me, and I am pretty sure Avengers #200 hurts just about everyone out there.
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It reads to me as a "No True Scotsman," which, I get why someone might respond that way, but so not appropriate. But I guess they'll hash it out offline, so that's between them.
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The most recent issue of The Ultimates has, and I am not exaggerating here, the worst art I have ever seen in a comic. Ever. Like, as in I seriously think I could do a better job drawing certain pages than the artist. And what's weird is that its so inconsistent, like some pages are great and some are poorly colored blotches that we are supposed to just imagine are humans because they're colored pink or dark brown. It is loving insane. As far as I can tell there weren't any fill in pencils either, it is just that atrocious.
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Oct 27, 2016 02:07
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This issue? https://www.comixology.com/Ultimates-2015-12/digital-comic/414218?ref=c2VyaWVzL3ZpZXcvZGVza3RvcC9ncmlkTGlzdC9Jc3N1ZXM The preview pages are gorgeous.
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Oct 27, 2016 02:17
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Christian Ward is an acquired taste.
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Teenage Fansub posted:This issue? https://www.comixology.com/Ultimates-2015-12/digital-comic/414218?ref=c2VyaWVzL3ZpZXcvZGVza3RvcC9ncmlkTGlzdC9Jc3N1ZXM It's not all that good, but it's not near bad either. It's just Toxx being as hyperbolic as possible, as usual, over a style he doesn't like.
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Can you post a bad page?
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Oct 27, 2016 02:19
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The new artist isn't nearly as good as the previous person but it's nowhere near that bad
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I much prefer that stuff to Rocafort. e: To be fair, Lobdell Superman may have unfairly soured me on the guy.
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Oct 27, 2016 02:28
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I bought several issues of a comic (ODY-C) that I didn't even like the story of just for Christian Ward's art. I am definitely a fan.
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Teenage Fansub posted:This issue? https://www.comixology.com/Ultimates-2015-12/digital-comic/414218?ref=c2VyaWVzL3ZpZXcvZGVza3RvcC9ncmlkTGlzdC9Jc3N1ZXM Yeah, and that's what I'm talking about when I say inconsistent. Those are like the first three pages, and they're loving great. But then you get horseshit like this:  Or this:  Or this:  And it's actually physically repulsive. And I'm not usually a guy who gets all hung up on art - I'm not an artist, so don't feel like I can or should judge, and as long as the images convey the intended meaning I'm more or less fine. Like, I'll recognize really good art for what it is and really amazing art can help create or emphasize mood or whatever, but as long as it does the bare minimum of making the writing function as sequential narrative I'll cut it a lot of slack. I didn't especially love that digital artist guy they got on Invincible Iron Man after the main guy went on to draw CWII, but he worked well enough to make the issues work, so whatever. This just felt like I was reading some barely-sketched in characters colorized terribly to the point that it actively distracted from Ewing's (excellent) writing.
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I like those too  e: Everyone get this week's Wonder Woman Anniversary one-shot. Good stuff. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 27, 2016 02:46
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Nice torso on Carol in the first one. That's about a 2/3 Liefeld.
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Oct 27, 2016 02:49
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That looks like bad fanart.
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Oct 27, 2016 02:52
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I enjoy how the furniture's drawn.
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Oct 27, 2016 02:55
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Whoops I forgot tables have four legs and benches should follow the perspective of the room.
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Oct 27, 2016 02:59
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Those faces tho.
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Oct 27, 2016 03:10
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Jesus Christ that last page
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Oct 27, 2016 03:48
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WickedHate posted:Don't worry, I'm like, 90% lesbian. The other 10% is for the occasional guy who looks like a girl. you are one of my favorite posters now
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Oct 27, 2016 05:08
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Herr Tog posted:you are one of my favorite posters now Aww. 
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Oct 27, 2016 05:09
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lmao that last panel
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WickedHate posted:Aww. You are welcome, this is also not shipping. WickedHate posted:Hey, I think most of the gun forum likes me. At least right now. Most is hard to pin down. I feel like most will still try to help you. This is good. this panel is anime. Discuss. Herr Tog fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 27, 2016 05:14
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It's undeniably a bad panel, so I agree.
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Oct 27, 2016 05:15
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Herr Tog posted:this panel is anime. Discuss. Well, now we can't be friends.  Ghostlight posted:It's undeniably a bad panel, so I agree. 
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Ghostlight posted:Whoops I forgot tables have four legs and benches should follow the perspective of the room. You've never had a booth in a restaurant?
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