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Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
So I know some people in Korea, but most of them were wiiaboos turned Koreaboos and the only ones that might be somewhat interested are the twins but gently caress them, I'm drunk so let's go with teh story I heard when I was out drunking with the most cool of them

So this guy, who's married to a Korean lady, was invited to eat Korean fermented skate, presumably to try and gross him out, because it smells like the mens room of an active bar at 2 am. Apparently this guy didn't like him much and offered only as a sorta "Haha, too bad only Koreans eat this, maybe your wife should have married a Korean so she could take part in events like this", he was apparently a 'friend' of hers that knew her before she went to London to study and was super bitter over how she'd married my buddy.

Joke's on himthough, because there is nothing on this gay planet in the sea that my ancestor wouldn't eat and that includes skate; so when my pal happily accepted to Korean guys surprise, then showed up and ate a shitload of it (Apparently they do it sashimi style and with kimchi instead of with potatoes, which is base savagery but whatever) people couldn't believe it. and all the Koreans, bar one, were pretty amazed and impressed. (gently caress if I know if this part was true, but I've been in the position to do this myself with binge drinking so as far as I know east asians are easily impressed)

Of course, he later threw up horribly and he said the vomit was the most foulest smelling thing he'd ever encountered because apparently shochu (or whatever they call that hard rice liquor in Korea) is even worse going up than Brennivín when mixed with skate and he ruined his pants on the way home but that's not so different from here really.

:iceland:

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The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
i saw a goony foreigner today waiting to buy a hamburger on the side of the street and he had an anime backpack and i thought "omg i have to get a picture of this guy for the GBS thread" and i took a picture of him but it's kinda blurry

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh
I was back in America a few months ago and nobody believed my descriptions of China. The pan-Asian stereotype of uptight, hard working, inscrutable math geniuses just runs to deep to counter program. Canadians were the worst about it and wasted no time squawking in disbelief at the idea of a STEM teacher from America having anything to teach Chinese students.

I just spent two-hours demonstrating examples of conservation of momentum to roomful of blank stares. Breaking the issue down algebraically only complicated matters because apparently p=mv is high level math to these students.

The moral of the story is that China is filled with a wide variety of people with many strengths and weaknesses just like everywhere else, but Canadians are assholes.

Let us English fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Oct 27, 2016

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Passive aggressive assholes.

Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

Haier posted:


haha look at this comedy skit i found

http://i.imgur.com/3PN1jwC.gifv



yeah man this is pretty good

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

JaucheCharly posted:

The best places in this world, Southern Germany, Austria and Switzerland.

The best places in the world to find a used copy of forklift simulator.

Tupperwarez
Apr 4, 2004

"phphphphphphpht"? this is what you're going with?

you sure?

Let us English posted:

I just spent two-hours demonstrating examples of conservation of momentum to roomful of blank stares. Breaking the issue down algebraically only complicated matters because apparently p=mv is high level math to these students.
Pfft, I bet you didn't even write the contents of the textbook onto the blackboard for them to copy into their notes.

Foreigners will never match Chinese education if they stubbornly cling to their backward methods.

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh

Tupperwarez posted:

Pfft, I bet you didn't even write the contents of the textbook onto the blackboard for them to copy into their notes.

Foreigners will never match Chinese education if they stubbornly cling to their backward methods.

My boss tried to claim that American students were pampered, but it's nothing compared to China, and I used to teach kids in Silicon Valley.

Tupperwarez
Apr 4, 2004

"phphphphphphpht"? this is what you're going with?

you sure?

Let us English posted:

My boss tried to claim that American students were pampered, but it's nothing compared to China, and I used to teach kids in Silicon Valley.
But seriously though, what was so difficult for them? Even when my Form 1 maths and science classes were at their worst, you could read from the textbook and have all the various formulas spelled out for you, and it was 'plug and chug' from there.

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh

Tupperwarez posted:

But seriously though, what was so difficult for them? Even when my Form 1 maths and science classes were at their worst, you could read from the textbook and have all the various formulas spelled out for you, and it was 'plug and chug' from there.

For whatever reason, I've noticed that any conserved quantity and ideas about conservation tend to throw them for a loop. My thermal energy unit last year ran into similar issues. I think part of it might be that the Chinese side of their education doesn't teach them about models or (conceptually) closed systems. Or it could be because they seem to have trouble dealing with models that include multiple variables. Like, if I give them values, about half of them can plug and chug a problem using the law of universal gravitation, but then if I ask them what two things influence the strength of gravity they fixate on mass OR distance and can't discuss one without seemingly forgetting the other entirely.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
Watched a video of an English teacher asking some kids why they brought pens but no paper in clear, easy to understand Chinese. The kids still didn't seem to understand the question. "Why didn't you bring paper?" "Um, we didn't bring any paper." "Why?" "... Um, we didn't bring any paper."

What's up with people not understanding basic questions?

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible
https://i.imgur.com/Oa1dFII.mp4

Yo, not racist

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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How did you manage to get real-time satellite footage of a Chinese intersection

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

I lost it at the part where the guy goes into the trees on the left backwards.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
This is fantastic. My dad is the final black car that pulls up and blocks the ones trying to turn. He learned it from the Thais. He does that poo poo whenever he goes back to the US for a few weeks each year and I fear for everyone's lives. He complains people are too passive at driving in America and there are too many rules.

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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:backtowork:

Atlas Hugged posted:

As far as comparing a phonetic script to Chinese, why would you do that? Chinese as a written language doesn't need any phonetic value. That was the whole loving point. It doesn't even really correspond with modern spoken Mandarin. Like you're never going to hear someone refer to a restaurant in conversation as 本店. You have to take the writing system for what it is, which is a method to represent each meaning individually so that speakers of diverse dialects can all understand the same document.

Because written Chinese is not an ideographic system. It is a crippled phonetic system. The vast majority of Chinese characters consist of a phonetic component to aid the reader in pronunciation and a semantic component tied to the meaning.

故居估菇蛄辜胡罟 etc etc are all pronounced gu because they have 古 in them. You have to remember that spoken language always comes first, and the written characters followed much later in different stages.

http://www.omniglot.com/chinese/types.htm

Most characters came about by someone saying "hey how do you write mushroom, which is pronounced gu because we don't have many syllables?" and another guy going "well mushroom sounds like 姑 so how about we show it's some kind of plant by adding the grass component 艹?" "Ok so 菇 it is then, thanks." In fact before Pinyin or even Gweoyuh Romatzi or however you spell it was developed Chinese dictionaries would show you a rhyming character so you'd know how to pronounce the obscure character you looked up.

As for the uniformity across dialects it was certainly a tool of administrative control as the Qin and then Han conquered their way through what we call China. All I really know is from Chinese propaganda blockbuster All Under Heaven where Qin Shi Huang murders anyone who writes Chinese different from the Qin and this is seen as a good thing. I certainly wouldn't doubt it as there is a big stigma against using nonstandard characters to write in Chinese, like every time I get told it's impossible to write Cantonese in Chinese script (we can and do, with the help of an extended character set). It's funny to see my in-laws try to read a "local" Hong Kong newspaper because it's full of characters they've never seen before and are only used in Cantonese.

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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DON'T TRUST THE CCP

http://www.smh.com.au/world/operation-fox-hunt-melbourne-grandmother-zhou-shiqin-prosecuted-after-return-to-china-20161025-gsalul.html

quote:

A Melbourne grandmother who protested her innocence after being listed by Chinese authorities among its most-wanted international fugitives will be prosecuted on corruption charges, despite voluntarily returning to China in an attempt to clear her name.

Zhou Shiqin, 64, denies accusations she embezzled millions of yuan from the state-owned railway authority she worked at as an accountant more than a decade ago, before immigrating to Australia.

Her decision to volunteer herself to the whims of China's opaque judicial system by returning home in April stemmed from the psychological pressure of having her photo and Interpol red notice emblazoned across Chinese state media outlets, and her younger sister's assets being frozen in China in connection with her case.

When Chinese authorities were convincing Ms Zhou to return to answer her charges, they had appeared open to examining evidence she had compiled which she said proved her innocence. That tone, Mr Ma said, turned sour around July, when authorities began to implicitly threaten her relatives in mainland China, including her son, if she refused to cooperate and "confess".

In what appears to be a face-saving compromise, and a partial concession there were issues with her original charges, Ms Zhou is now likely to be pinned with lesser corruption-related crimes.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?



For anyone with no experience, this is actually less chaotic than reality because:

No motorbikes/tricycles loving up everything.
No one is blowing through the red lights.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
Where is that from?

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Imperialist Dog posted:

Because written Chinese is not an ideographic system. It is a crippled phonetic system. The vast majority of Chinese characters consist of a phonetic component to aid the reader in pronunciation and a semantic component tied to the meaning.

故居估菇蛄辜胡罟 etc etc are all pronounced gu because they have 古 in them. You have to remember that spoken language always comes first, and the written characters followed much later in different stages.

http://www.omniglot.com/chinese/types.htm

Most characters came about by someone saying "hey how do you write mushroom, which is pronounced gu because we don't have many syllables?" and another guy going "well mushroom sounds like 姑 so how about we show it's some kind of plant by adding the grass component 艹?" "Ok so 菇 it is then, thanks." In fact before Pinyin or even Gweoyuh Romatzi or however you spell it was developed Chinese dictionaries would show you a rhyming character so you'd know how to pronounce the obscure character you looked up.

As for the uniformity across dialects it was certainly a tool of administrative control as the Qin and then Han conquered their way through what we call China. All I really know is from Chinese propaganda blockbuster All Under Heaven where Qin Shi Huang murders anyone who writes Chinese different from the Qin and this is seen as a good thing. I certainly wouldn't doubt it as there is a big stigma against using nonstandard characters to write in Chinese, like every time I get told it's impossible to write Cantonese in Chinese script (we can and do, with the help of an extended character set). It's funny to see my in-laws try to read a "local" Hong Kong newspaper because it's full of characters they've never seen before and are only used in Cantonese.

I am aware that written Chinese is made up of semi-phonetic ideograms. But the key word there is semi-phonetic. Many characters don't have any phonetic hint and since the writing system has been around for oh a few thousand years, pronunciation has drifted enough that the phonetic values are completely off the mark these days for a huge percentage of characters. Even with weird English vowel drifts and diphthongs, written English is still more or less phonetic.

Edit: I mean, you're trying to evaluate written Chinese with the same tools you'd use to evaluate an alphabet or a syllabary and it's seriously apples to oranges. Chinese is definitely harder to learn than Hangul, but I had a much easier time learning to read and write Chinese than I've had with Thai. If you want a ridiculous nonsensical writing system, it's that.

Atlas Hugged fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Oct 27, 2016

Jimmy Little Balls
Aug 23, 2009

Grand Fromage posted:

For anyone with no experience, this is actually less chaotic than reality because:

No motorbikes/tricycles loving up everything.
No one is blowing through the red lights.

Also theres no people standing in the middle of the road waiting to cross because you must be infront of everyone else even if you are the slowest moving person on the planet. Then when the crossing light does turn green you have to stare at it for 10 seconds before deciding that yes it is green.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Grand Fromage posted:

For anyone with no experience, this is actually less chaotic than reality because:

No motorbikes/tricycles loving up everything.
No one is blowing through the red lights.

there's no pedestrians either, and the road seems intact

nickmeister posted:

Where is that from?

china

Jusupov
May 24, 2007
only text

How about exiting a highway


It only had a single lane painted up to the end

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Dear Civ VI dev, please fix Qin Shi Huang

quote:

As a Chinese, Qin Shi Huang has been bugging me since the release of the game.
First of all, the name of the ruler in the game. Qin Shi Huang, or 秦始皇 in Chinese, is not the name of the ruler, but a title. It's like naming Peter Alexeyevich as "The Tsar"; or naming Theodore Roosevelt as "the 26th President of the United States". It's VERY weird.
The name of Qin Shi Huang is Ying Zheng, or 嬴政 in Chinese.

Next, since you guys decided to call him Qin Shi Huang, you guys should know that it means he is the first emperor of Qin dynasty. Since he IS an emperor now, he no longer uses the word "寡人" when he was referring himself, he should've used "朕" instead. "寡人" is only used by a king, while "朕" is used by the emperor.

Last but not least, when the game's display language is set to Simp/Trad Chinese, please show what he said, instead of him saying one thing, and the words are displaying other stuffs. At least write the modernized meaning of classical Chinese, not something that is 80% irrelevant.

If you guys are releasing another China's leader, please do name them by their name, not their title, and please fix Qin Shi Huang. Thank you.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
Hahaha, someone coined a great term for what Duterte is doing wrt china. He's invoking "Heisenberg's Uncertainty Philippines", being deliberately obtuse and obfuscating so nobody knows where they got him, giving him room to manuver, or something. I dunno, I just liked the term.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Atlas Hugged posted:

Living in Dongducheon was the loving worst because everyone really wanted to believe I was a soldier since a ton of the infantry are stationed there and that's what I look like in my everyday clothes since I keep my hair as short as possible.

loving LOL! Where in Dongducheon were you living? I was in Jihaeng, the station was just a 10 minute walk from where I lived. Dongducheon is a dangerous town to get a haircut. First time I went to a barber shop the lady took the clippers and started to give me a GI "High and Tight" before I could pull out the written instructions a Korean teacher had prepared for me.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

if you've never been to china, this is what you're missing...and it's not a joke. this is actually what chinese intersections look like

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
actually for that gif to work you need

Grand Fromage posted:

motorbikes/tricycles loving up everything.
people blowing through the red lights.

plus

Jimmy Little Balls posted:

people standing in the middle of the road waiting to cross because you must be infront of everyone else even if you are the slowest moving person on the planet. Then when the crossing light does turn green you have to stare at it for 10 seconds before deciding that yes it is green.

plus at least one person in the suburbs of vancouver or san francisco screaming that you are a racist on the internet

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
i can make these statements because falun bong refugee is probated for the next week, lol

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

The Great Autismo! posted:

i can make these statements because falun bong refugee is probated for the next week, lol

We are blessed indeed.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Blistex posted:

loving LOL! Where in Dongducheon were you living? I was in Jihaeng, the station was just a 10 minute walk from where I lived. Dongducheon is a dangerous town to get a haircut. First time I went to a barber shop the lady took the clippers and started to give me a GI "High and Tight" before I could pull out the written instructions a Korean teacher had prepared for me.

I think I was technically closer to Dongducheon Jungang than Jihaeng, but it was 6 of one half a dozen of the other. It just depended on where I was going. I worked way the gently caress up in Daegwang-ri, Yeoncheon County and so would take the subway up to Dongducheon station every morning and switch to the diesel train and ride that all the loving out there. It was awful. Miller Time was our go to watering hole, but after awhile we started making our way down to Cheers in Uijeongbu. There were also a couple of whiskey bars that I frequented because I'm a terrible alcoholic. Of course, only about half of them would let us in. Ah memories.

ars
Oct 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

nickmeister posted:

Where is that from?

finite state automata

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Bribery during elections is now ok as long as you are a cheapskate.

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/10/27/student-allegedly-bought-votes-will-not-face-investigation-amount-immaterial-report/

quote:

University of Hong Kong student Printa Zhu Ke will not face investigation over a bribery allegation because the university’s governing council considered the amount involved to be “immaterial,” Ming Pao has reported.

Zhu, who is from mainland China, was embroiled in a bribery scandal after his opponent Michael Mo Kwan-tai revealed materials that allegedly showed Zhu buying votes from classmates in his bid to become the postgraduate student member of the HKU Council. Mo reported the case to the school and the Independent Commission Against Corruption last week.

The HKU Council announced on Wednesday that Zhu was elected as the postgraduate student representative with a voter turnout of about 10 per cent. Zhu also won the election last year.

The Council did not disclose the details of its decision not to investigate Zhu. A source told local newspaper Ming Pao that the 20-member Council decided by a 9:7 vote to dismiss Mo’s complaint on the basis that the amount – totalling RMB80 – given out by Zhu was “immaterial.”

The source told Ming Pao that most of the Council members who voted against Zhu were HKU members, while those who voted for Zhu were appointed from outside the school. Under Hong Kong law, the chief executive has the power to appoint one-third of HKU Council members.

HKU Vice-Chancellor Peter Mathieson confirmed to Oriental Daily on Wednesday that the leaked information was accurate.

Last week, Mo revealed screenshots that allegedly showed Zhu sending out his campaign details and distributing virtual red packets containing money to his classmates via the messaging app WeChat. In some screenshots, after Zhu posted his campaign poster and red packet in a group chat, several members told him that they had voted and one asked for the link to vote online.

Zhu responded that the money was to reimburse those who had helped with campaign promotion. He uploaded screenshots of his red packet account, which showed that the amounts transacted were all below RMB2.

‘Legitimising bribery’

HKU Student Union leader Althea Suen, who sits on the Council as the undergraduate representative, said that the most important factor should not be the transaction amount, but whether Zhu’s conduct has affected his integrity, the fairness of the election process, and the university’s reputation.

She added that it is inappropriate for the Council to arrive at a decision by vote before fully investigating the case.

Mo told HKFP that the Council’s decision to not hold a hearing before voting is a “political way” to resolve a legal matter. “[This] is wrong in my opinion,” he said.
Michael Mo hku

“I think this is a starting point of HKU’s legitimisation of election bribery at the governance level,” he said. “If it’s not corrected, I’m sure it will become a norm in the near future.”

Zhu could not be reached for comment. He said earlier that his opponent had tried to gain publicity by stirring up sensational stories.

‘Undesirable culture’

Barrister Chris Ng of the Progressive Lawyers Group told HKFP that the HKU Council’s decision is reasonable because Zhu may have a strong defense for two reasons: first, Hong Kong’s ordinances do not cover this type of alleged bribery. Second, there are common law cases in which a gift of insignificant value was considered not capable of “influencing” voters, thereby failing to establish the act of bribery.

“But even if it may be permissible by law, it doesn’t always mean it is morally acceptable,” Ng said. “Zhu was lucky this time, but this kind of behaviour should not be encouraged.”
hku gate

He gave the example of a mainland Chinese businessman who was jailed for six months in September after trying to bribe an HSBC employee with a bottle of perfume. The magistrate said the mainlander brought “undesirable culture” to Hong Kong, which must not be encouraged.

Ng said he agrees with the magistrate on the matter. “Especially since there are a lot of cross-border businesses, it is necessary to let [mainland Chinese] know that an important core value of Hong Kong is integrity – in both public and private sectors,” he said.

He added: “Schools should hold students to a higher standard. HKU should condemn Zhu’s conduct and follow up with the matter strictly according to the regulations.”

The governing council system in Hong Kong has for years been criticised for being susceptible to political influence due to the law which stipulates that the chief executive is the chancellor of ten universities and can appoint outside members to the councils.

Thin Privilege
Jul 8, 2009
IM A STUPID MORON WITH AN UGLY FACE AND A BIG BUTT AND MY BUTT SMELLS AND I LIKE TO KISS MY OWN BUTT
Gravy Boat 2k

nickmeister posted:

Where is that from?



:ssh: It's actually Russia, there's дпс (road police) cars, who are doing nothing about the situation :ussr:

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Thin Privilege posted:

:ssh: It's actually Russia, there's дпс (road police) cars, who are doing nothing about the situation :ussr:

good catch. china also doesn't have road signs for yielding because nobody ever yields for anything in china.

Uncle Enzo
Apr 28, 2008

I always wanted to be a Wizard
Are there any good articles about face I can read? Something like a face workbook would be awesome, where you get presented a situation and have to answer who lost face, and why.

It's seems like it's the critical thing that westerners (and Americans) just have no clue about, particularly with china. For example, I read this comic and all I could think of was "holy poo poo that dude with the minesweeper lost a lot of face" followed by realizing that people from many cultures would have just not admitted the error, the loss of face would be too great.

Unless my analysis of face is wrong, since it's not like I understand it.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Uncle Enzo posted:

Are there any good articles about face I can read? Something like a face workbook would be awesome, where you get presented a situation and have to answer who lost face, and why.

It's seems like it's the critical thing that westerners (and Americans) just have no clue about, particularly with china. For example, I read this comic and all I could think of was "holy poo poo that dude with the minesweeper lost a lot of face" followed by realizing that people from many cultures would have just not admitted the error, the loss of face would be too great.

Unless my analysis of face is wrong, since it's not like I understand it.

Someone came close to literally losing their Face in that comic.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
A thread about the silly Berkeley protests. Can we guess who the "Asian" students are?



IN B4 Baby Helldump calls me racist.

Dicky mouse
Apr 11, 2008

"No No Not like that....Thats just silly"
In a weird turn of fate. I was reading this thread last night.

I also took my meds which tend to have strange side effects.

And holy poo poo. I dreamed I was traveling through india with you guys.

You'll never guess which poster got pissed at me, at me for being creepy and left the group. To never be seen again.

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vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Dicky mouse posted:

In a weird turn of fate. I was reading this thread last night.

I also took my meds which tend to have strange side effects.

And holy poo poo. I dreamed I was traveling through india with you guys.

You'll never guess which poster got pissed at me, at me for being creepy and left the group. To never be seen again.

you'll never guess which poster cares about your creepy goon dreams (it's no one)

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