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Look, I hear white people call themselves the R-word all the time, so I don't see why I can't use it.
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the_steve posted:I love how they completely ignore the fact that the southern Democrats and other assorted racists swapped teams to the Republican party. A lot of conservatives view that, the Southern Strategy and any reference to Lee Atwater about how liberals view references to Saul Alisnky and Rules for Radicals. Sometime in the last couple of years that well got pretty thoroughly poisoned for people inside the bubble.
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Oct 27, 2016 02:26
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TerminalSaint posted:Look, I hear white people call themselves the R-word all the time, so I don't see why I can't use it. At the retail store where I manage, the shift managers can set their own soundtrack. One of them chose to have nothing but popular heavy metal songs blasting where it was dropping R-bombs Most white people I know that listen to heavy metal in the home or in public will opt for the bleeped out version. I tried talking to her about it and to explain why it was inappropriate. What I've quoted is basically what she said. It's not like I can do anything official, I don't want to be known as "THAT" white guy. Plus, it's a store that caters to urban black homemakers, so I'm already something of a token. Edit: Needed to remove vile hatespeach. Shbobdb fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 27, 2016 02:37
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Instant Sunrise posted:Pump Jockey!
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Oct 27, 2016 02:48
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My mom is now convinced the postman has stolen her early ballot to vote for Hillary. Or a neighbor has it and is going to vote for Hillary. Gee Mom, who were you going to vote for? When I reminded her about the contractors Trump never paid, which was what she was really pissed at, she snapped back that she read there are dozens of Secret Service books written from ex members who detailed how much of a bitch and a oval office she was to them. It's like she is so afraid to say she would vote for Trump just because that Hillary is a crook and a liar! Those people died in Ben Ghaza because of her! And she lies all the time! .....Mom, have you ever actually listened to any of the loving debates or anything Trump has said? Of course not. I bet she suspected privately that I took her ballot and left the rest of the mail, and right now her ballot is hiding in my room where I will vote for Hillary and forge her name on it.
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Oct 27, 2016 03:03
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I don't want to take away from those amazing list screeds but I couldn't let this pass   
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Oct 27, 2016 03:06
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Shbobdb posted:The R-word shouldn't be said period. I understand that some white people will use it occasionally, personally I don't like that and never use that word since there is such a hateful history behind it. But what's really terrible is that the Barack Hussein Obama and the Democrats (especially the Hispanics, the Blacks and the Millennials) are using it all the time against real Americans. Serious talk here... are you shying away from R**ist or R**ublican? Because I can use conservative american if it makes you feel safer.
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Oct 27, 2016 03:18
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Mystic Mongol posted:Serious talk here... are you shying away from R**ist or R**ublican? Because I can use conservative american if it makes you feel safer. I don't think anyone is ashamed of being an adorable deplorable!
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Oct 27, 2016 03:22
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Cowslips Warren posted:My mom is now convinced the postman has stolen her early ballot to vote for Hillary. Or a neighbor has it and is going to vote for Hillary. Gee Mom, who were you going to vote for? This, but instead of my mom and I, it's my stepdad and my mom. My mom is firmly in the Hillary camp and my stepdad is a Trump man, spreading duck memes on Facebook. My mom's complaint is that he just goes along with what his brothers and other people tell him, and doesn't really think things through for himself. This extends to other things as well, which is why she never enjoys watching more cerebral shows with him, because he gets lost easily and keeps having to ask her to explain what's going on. Too bad he doesn't understand when my mom tries to explain why Trump would be a horrible president, and is in general, a horrible person. So, my mom is going to effectively cancel out my stepdad's vote, which is awesome. Mystic Mongol posted:Serious talk here... are you shying away from R**ist or R********? Because I can use c********* american if it makes you feel safer. Dude, watch that poo poo! At least you didn't say a Constitutional Conservative. Please try to be more aware of white fragility, and how minorities are privileged to be able to handle slurs and insults flung at them by an ignorant majority populace; something white people aren't equipped to handle.
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Oct 27, 2016 03:34
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YF19pilot posted:Dude, watch that poo poo! At least you didn't say a Constitutional Conservative. Please try to be more aware of white fragility, and how minorities are privileged to be able to handle slurs and insults flung at them by an ignorant majority populace; something white people aren't equipped to handle. Real American? Stationarysexual? Reformed confederate? Cisgendered? Dogma-free Christian? Help me out.
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Oct 27, 2016 03:44
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Considering that I never learned copperplate, but know cursive, I can read the Constitution. This is pedantic as hell. Always be this level of pedantic when people are spouting off about some minute detail they think is true about their beloved Constitution which is actually wrong. It's never not good.
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Oct 27, 2016 04:12
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YF19pilot posted:Please try to be more aware of white fragility, and how minorities are privileged to be able to handle slurs and insults flung at them by an ignorant majority populace; something white people aren't equipped to handle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPDpcYEdiOg
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Oct 27, 2016 04:35
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So my mother may have said possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard: "If Hillary's in office, you might as well move to Russia." No mom, that's the Don you're thinking of.
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Oct 27, 2016 04:37
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Chimera-gui posted:So my mother may have said possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard: "If Hillary's in office, you might as well move to Russia." Not true. With the Don we'd already be living in Russia.
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Oct 27, 2016 04:47
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Shbobdb posted:Not true. That what I meant.
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Oct 27, 2016 04:54
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Chimera-gui posted:That what I meant. 
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Oct 27, 2016 04:57
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Mystic Mongol posted:Serious talk here... are you shying away from R**ist or R**ublican? Because I can use conservative american if it makes you feel safer. Snowman Crossing posted:I guess dishwashers are still looked at as a luxury item, but hand washing is pretty wasteful. I know *dishwashers* is not exactly an interesting topic, but if you're at all concerned about water usage you may be surprised to learn that today's dishwashers are like 10x more efficient than hand washing. coyo7e fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 27, 2016 05:33
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coyo7e posted:I was thinking Redneck. I'm digging the Semiotic Shuffle!
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Oct 27, 2016 05:49
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I had to google the r-word. I assumed racist, republican. Then someone mentioned it being used in music and I thought "rape" Google had the answer though and I was way off.
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Oct 27, 2016 08:26
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quote:Judy Reams, Iowa Park
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Oct 27, 2016 12:47
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YF19pilot posted:spreading duck memes on Facebook. The first thing that comes to mind is that duck sex makes Trump look like a radical feminist, it's not about that is it? 
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Oct 27, 2016 13:35
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Guavanaut posted:Wait, what are the duck memes? I'm pretty sure it's about those rednecks that make duck calls and hate queers and communist-atheist-islams. Edit: Turns out I was wrong Who What Now fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 27, 2016 14:07
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Guavanaut posted:Wait, what are the duck memes? They got laughed at.
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Oct 27, 2016 14:10
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Oct 27, 2016 15:30
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the_steve posted:
Two good angles of attack there: 1) "you know colleges give more than one type of degree, right?" Or 2) "you're right, trade schools should absolutely get the same level of accessibility as academic institutions" Hell, you can even segue those together. "Not everyone needs to be an English professor, a business major, a bricklayer or a welder. Make all forms of education and learning equal"
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Oct 27, 2016 15:43
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:When people use that word, they don't realize that they're also dredging up centuries of shame. It's literally the most hurtful thing that you could say to a White person. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cuQTGKD01M
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Oct 27, 2016 15:51
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the_steve posted:
I usually go with: I really wish they'd make a degree that represents a good, old-fashioned education. Something that covers a good range of important topics like mathematics, science, the arts, philosophy and literature.
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Oct 27, 2016 16:01
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the_steve posted:
Don't they realize that they're literally attacking the candidates (including socialist Obama and Hillary) from the left? Unless their point is that they don't actually want cheap/free trade schools, which could very well be the case considering how disassociated they are from reality and the words coming out of their mouths. I mean, yeah, they'd actually implode if they ever did realize they're attacking from the left but at least the rest of us can enjoy the irony.
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totalnewbie posted:Don't they realize that they're literally attacking the candidates (including socialist Obama and Hillary) from the left? I mean of course they do. They just only want it for white people.
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totalnewbie posted:Don't they realize that they're literally attacking the candidates (including socialist Obama and Hillary) from the left? these people have no idea what higher education is or does
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I don't want to give the impression I'm 'above the fray' in any way, but I'm frequently baffled by stuff like: Yes. We absolutely should fund trade-school in the same way. These training and work programs are every bit as important as university proper, and I say this as someone who is working on a PhD. I have this radical notion that all jobs in society are absolutely necessary.From the ditch digger to the CEO, from the cashier at McDonald's to the President, from the salesperson at JC Penny's to brain surgeon; all jobs are necessary to keep the social order running smoothly. And I think persons should be reasonably compensated for the jobs they perform. Perhaps the most striking statistic I've seen on the matter is the ratio of line worker pay to CEO pay. During the 60s, the rate was around 1:20. For every dollar the line worker made, the CEO could expect to make 20. That's reasonable, and maybe even a bit low if you consider the risk/investment and amount of work that goes into some jobs. But that ratio has grown more extreme- around 1:300. That means CEOs often make more in one day than their line workers could hope to make in a year- and that's just from wages, exempting bonuses and stock options. Now I don't know about anyone else, but that seems a bit extreme to me. I can't imagine looking at two workers and being able to objectively say, 'Yes, this guy works literally 300 times as hard as the other guy, and deserves the wage'. I absolutely think people should be rewarded for their risk and investment and hard work; but our conception of both what 'hard work' is, and the degree to which it should be compensated, is completely insane.
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Oct 27, 2016 16:14
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the_steve posted:
Throw their own heroes back at them: The Founding Fathers approved of liberal education.
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JVNO posted:I can't imagine looking at two workers and being able to objectively say, 'Yes, this guy works literally 300 times as hard as the other guy, and deserves the wage'. That's not the way wages work. It's about how much you can make for the company, and how rare your skills are, not how hard you work. Most low level jobs are way harder work than high level jobs. A nursing assistant who has a backbreaking job lifting and cleaning helpless and heavy patients works way harder than the coder who spends all day doing fun work in a comfy chair with coffee, but the latter earns lots more. CEOs are just a magnification of the above. Their job is seriously fun. It's high pressure, but in a fun way.
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Oct 27, 2016 16:31
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Yes, well, compare job performance with their severance packages and let me know again how much these titans of industry are really worth.
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Oct 27, 2016 16:50
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 No, no, go on about how liberals are the real racists compared to Donald "they're sending us their murderers and rapists" Trump. Just keep talking about how merciful Trump is compared to Hillary when he ponders why we can't just murder the families of suspected terrorists! Let's talk about how Trump is such a great supporter of civil rights, that his businesses were forcefully desegregated by the court (with no admission of guilt)!  B-b-b-but I still support Gary Johnson! I'm totally not a Trump supporter who's too afraid that people will see I'm a piece of poo poo if I openly support him! sirtommygunn fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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BarbarianElephant posted:That's not the way wages work. It's about how much you can make for the company, and how rare your skills are, not how hard you work. Most low level jobs are way harder work than high level jobs. A nursing assistant who has a backbreaking job lifting and cleaning helpless and heavy patients works way harder than the coder who spends all day doing fun work in a comfy chair with coffee, but the latter earns lots more. CEOs are just a magnification of the above. Their job is seriously fun. It's high pressure, but in a fun way. Some of that has to do with education. If I spend eight years as a poor graduate student, it's reasonable that I get to make up for that with a higher paying job. Not 300 times higher, but some.
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Jurgan posted:Some of that has to do with education. If I spend eight years as a poor graduate student, it's reasonable that I get to make up for that with a higher paying job. Not 300 times higher, but some. I don't really see the relationship between entitled to money and time spent in school. If it's money you really want then you have to look at the market before starting (at something like age 15) Otherwise I don't see why someone who spent a decade in say... art school should be entitled to more money than say... an electrician who has 3 years of crafts school and then a started a paid apprenticeship.
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Jurgan posted:Some of that has to do with education. If I spend eight years as a poor graduate student, it's reasonable that I get to make up for that with a higher paying job. Not 300 times higher, but some. It doesn't matter if it is "reasonable" - it is all about how much employers want to pay. If there is no demand for your graduate degree in Paleontology, they are not going to pay you more just because you suffered getting it. That's capitalism!
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Zephyrine posted:I don't really see the relationship between entitled to money and time spent in school. the idea is generally that the more time you spend in education for a skill, the harder that skill is to obtain, and therefore the amount of money you can request for your skill goes up. this is why hard working but relatively unskilled jobs like nursing assistant or janitor pay so little, because basically anyone can do it. of course there's plenty of exceptions here but this is the general idea to loop back to that dumb image macro about trade skills though, a lot of community colleges teach actual trades like HVAC, especially in rural areas. trade schools themselves are just unaccredited, for-profit community colleges with no basic liberal arts requirements. and even 4 year instutitions often teach practical skills - i know a lady who went to art school and came out of it knowing how to smelt, join, and mold metal because she wanted to make jewelry. yep, she went to art school and became a glorified welder. i went to the architecture school at my alma mater, which taught architecture, urban planning, and industrial design - and the industrial design workshop had all kinds of fun machine tools, including a laser cutter boner confessor fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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