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Rhyno posted:What if we, the viewers are actually hosts? I do die frequently upon reading this thread.
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Grognan posted:I bet the ambiguity from the hosts's scenes is that they actually don't have anything close to a linear grasp of time, just something that imitates it close enough to matter. Which does leave room for the show creators to pull something crazy off. I think this is a good question in regards to the hosts that hang out in town and part of their loop is just to wait for someone to engage with. Are their brains actively engaged in what's going on around them like a human might be, thinking about things that are going on around them in relation to their own wants and needs or their backstory as much as they are allowed to think about those things or are they just blank spaces waiting for input? I think the more I think about this show, the more I realize it isn't so much the show that fascinates me as the ideas around the show. I like the storylines fine and the characters are interesting but logistical questions about how the park runs and how the AI work is a good bit of the draw.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:18
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:These retarded delights have retarded ends. I'm not saying it definitely means something. It's just close enough that it makes you wonder. Maybe we'll see new locations pop up on other stars, maybe not. probably not
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Oct 27, 2016 19:25
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tadashi posted:I think this is a good question in regards to the hosts that hang out in town and part of their loop is just to wait for someone to engage with. Are their brains actively engaged in what's going on around them like a human might be, thinking about things that are going on around them in relation to their own wants and needs or their backstory as much as they are allowed to think about those things or are they just blank spaces waiting for input? That's a big reason I'm so glad the John Nolan is a part of this show, the guy knows AI and how to make a good story around it.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:39
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:I'm a simple man with simple needs and I really need the hosts to start killing fools already. If we don't get the AI rebellion before s2 I'm gonna be very angry and post about it a lot itt. Someone is definitely going to die. 
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Oct 27, 2016 19:47
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DoctorGonzo posted:Someone is definitely going to die. Oh no, Robert Ford went back and finished off Old Bill 
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Oct 27, 2016 19:49
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El Jeffe posted:Someone on reddit found something interesting The only thing on this that I can possibly theorize about is the one path may be the one The MiB is following. But, since leaving Las Mudas, he hasn't unlocked any other points on the map.  , leaving Las Mudas. Leaving The Silent, where he forced the girl to talk.
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Oct 27, 2016 20:09
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Zaphod42 posted:I mean, you could come up with some To be fair, they have called out Bioshock as a major source of inspiration for the show, so it wouldn't necessarily be full  to suggest that MiB was a super-advanced robot Arnold made and sent away to return at a specific time for some reason.Edit: not that I'm seriously suggesting this, the thought just occurred to me after the "in a way I was born here" line and the link to Bioshock plainswalker75 fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 27, 2016 20:14
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tadashi posted:Is the only indication for distinguishing guests from hosts, other than being told directly, the poo poo-eating grin on the faces of guests anytime something crazy happens? For a second, I thought Teddy had a new host sidekick in that female guest because they had just told him he was getting a new backstory and then she showed up. Yes, the show intentionally keeps some characters' natures hidden for awhile to gently caress with us. Teddy was introduced as a guest, but he was a host. They never lied and said "you're a guest, Teddy!" but they left it ambiguous and steered us towards assuming the wrong answer. tadashi posted:I think this is a good question in regards to the hosts that hang out in town and part of their loop is just to wait for someone to engage with. Are their brains actively engaged in what's going on around them like a human might be, thinking about things that are going on around them in relation to their own wants and needs or their backstory as much as they are allowed to think about those things or are they just blank spaces waiting for input? As far as the park is concerned they don't "think" at all, but their programming is constantly processing their environment to see if there's guests that need help or quests. But Dolores' is obviously being presented to us as someone who is constantly thinking about her situation. plainswalker75 posted:To be fair, they have called out Bioshock as a major source of inspiration for the show, so it wouldn't necessarily be full Would you kindly? Its still its just tinfoil that may be true. But I don't think so.
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Oct 27, 2016 20:14
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My new theory: the man in black is Arnold's brother. He's been coming ever since the accident to find out what happened, and he's finally on the right track. That's how he knows about Arnold. Oh and that last meeting between Dolores and Bernard was a dream. The cool opening shot where B is reflected in her eye gives it away.
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Oct 27, 2016 20:20
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At least the map let's us wonder where some things are happening. We know the earthmover is about to plow into the Agave Plantation, and I think it could be related or close to the site Robert Ford was showing to Bernie, with the buried steeple. From the little blurb about Python Pass suggests it's where Elsie and Stubbs find the stray with the killer headache. If you ignore the points and just look at the river network, it does look like an upside down Orion. Didn't someone mention that the constellations would look upside down from someone on the southern hemisphere?  (please forgive the crudity of my map) edit: Hmm, this link suggests it should be upside down and backwards: http://www.ngawhetu.com/Resources/TheRhythmicSky/index16.html Caufman fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 27, 2016 20:22
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How do they keep bringing the androids down to the labs and back to the world again, without disturbing the west world? Do they have little tunnels everywhere that can be opened up or what?
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Oct 27, 2016 20:40
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PirateBob posted:How do they keep bringing the androids down to the labs and back to the world again, without disturbing the west world? Do they have little tunnels everywhere that can be opened up or what? They showed the underground tunnels and the access lifts when Security dude and Robot kisser were heading out after the rogue head smasher.
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Oct 27, 2016 20:43
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PirateBob posted:How do they keep bringing the androids down to the labs and back to the world again, without disturbing the west world? Do they have little tunnels everywhere that can be opened up or what? They do. They have elevators from a sublevel that leads to the park surface. And according to the website, hosts that die in normal circumstances are carried by undertaker hosts to their grave, which also leads them to the sublevel for cleaning and resurrection.
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Oct 27, 2016 20:42
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Rhyno posted:They showed the underground tunnels and the access lifts when Security dude and Robot kisser were heading out after the rogue head smasher. We also saw this when Ford went to the surface and talked to the child host. Caufman posted:edit: Hmm, this link suggests it should be upside down and backwards: http://www.ngawhetu.com/Resources/TheRhythmicSky/index16.html Rotated. Lycus fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 27, 2016 20:47
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PirateBob posted:How do they keep bringing the androids down to the labs and back to the world again, without disturbing the west world? Do they have little tunnels everywhere that can be opened up or what? Underground bullet trains and a series of disgused elevators. Also a series of one-way chutes disugised as graves. Its pretty clever.
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Oct 27, 2016 20:57
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Lycus posted:Rotated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyL5mAqFJds&t=84s
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Oct 27, 2016 20:57
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Lycus posted:Rotated. You got it.  Whoever thinks we're in Australia, one point to you.
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Oct 27, 2016 21:02
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Caufman posted:
I crunched the numbers, and something very strange happened  timelines???
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Oct 27, 2016 21:12
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Westworld is actually in the same timeline as The Man in the High Castle
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Caufman posted:You got it. Cool catch. Australia would make sense. I assumed we were past the point of corporatocracy and Delos corp just owns the Nevada desert wholesale or something.
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Oct 27, 2016 21:12
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Do the trains in Westworld run on time?
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Oct 27, 2016 21:13
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While the map theory might be wrong, I do think it's going down the wrong path to continue thinking it's Orion when a character in the show explicitly said "it's not Orion" in response to another character's Orion theory.
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Oct 27, 2016 21:16
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It says "commissioned under the command of the zoning department".
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Oct 27, 2016 21:21
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Lycus posted:It says "commissioned under the command of the zoning department". Not on the one I defaced a few posts up
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Oct 27, 2016 21:27
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buckets of buckets posted:The map says 'commissioned under the command of the United States government' which suggests to me its not oz but an island, or just somewhere actually in the west. I imagine HBO have thought it through pretty thoroughly, we've yet to see any godlike weather control devices. An artificial island in the south pacific might work if the southern hemisphere thing is correct and its under a dome or something. My money is on a massive underground series of caverns.
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buckets of buckets posted:Not on the one I defaced a few posts up Oh hell, it says "zoning department" on the website right now. Did they change it? https://discoverwestworld.com/images/explore/explore_bg.jpg 
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Oct 27, 2016 21:28
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Rhyno posted:My money is on a massive underground series of caverns. That makes sense. I just really want to see Ford point at something and see it struck by lightning e: Could be the US zoning department. Maybe its a slip to have it say US govt, but I doubt its a mistake
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Oct 27, 2016 21:29
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They also changed the location of Sweetwater in relation to Abernathy Ranch. Completely unnecessary unless they want it line up with something. gently caress it, I think map theory holds water until we get Pariah's location to confirm or deny it.
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Oct 27, 2016 21:42
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I'd think it's more likely located in a post-global warming Antarctica or something rather than Australia. Whole lot of empty land down there.
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Oct 27, 2016 21:44
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The park is also a closed environment so there's a massive dome somewhere. Like the Truman Show.
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Oct 27, 2016 21:46
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Lycus posted:They also changed the location of Sweetwater in relation to Abernathy Ranch. Yeah they did.
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I don't think it's underground. Security guy and Elsie tracked the stray using satellites.
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Oct 27, 2016 21:51
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tooterfish posted:I don't think it's underground. Security guy and Elsie tracked the stray using satellites. Brilliant catch. Pellisworth posted:I'd think it's more likely located in a post-global warming Antarctica or something rather than Australia. Whole lot of empty land down there. But global warming wouldn't change the amount of daylight down there. You live near the poles, and you're going to have to deal with a weird sun in your sky. I shouldn't have namedropped Australia, though. Let's say, southern hemisphere of Earth, remote enough to be somewhat inaccessible. Caufman fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 27, 2016 22:00
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tooterfish posted:I don't think it's underground. Security guy and Elsie tracked the stray using satellites. There's got to be some sort of dome/force field thing. No other way to keep foreign birds/bugs out.
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Oct 27, 2016 22:11
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Rhyno posted:There's got to be some sort of dome/force field thing. No other way to keep foreign birds/bugs out. Ohhhhhh and the force fields are what makes the waist high clay walls work. It's not the bullets, it's the clay. ForceClay.
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Oct 27, 2016 22:20
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And at the center of the maze is the Statue of Liberty.
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But does it have a monkey head?
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