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The most striking thing about watching Jennifer Hollet trying (and eventually succeeding at) winning an NDP nomination was how obvious it seemed that only a few years earlier she would have been a progressive-leaning federal Liberal. She had no political experience or strong views, just a sort of vague desire to "make a difference" and to "start conversations". While she as an individual is probably committed to the NDP from now on, I assume that people just like her but a few years earlier have already gravitated back to the Liberal party and brand. But there will always be dieahrd NDP loyalists who don't care about anything except increasing the number of NDP seats, and a lot of those people still seem committed to the idea that being a centrist party with slightly better technocratic policies than the Liberals is the most plausible way to eventually forming government, so literally any amount of compromise, backroom dealing or selling-out is worth it to achieve that goal, and literally nothing could be worse than relaxing the central party's grip a little bit and letting the activists or local riding associations have a hand at crafting policy.
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Oct 27, 2016 21:27
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Helsing posted:
"What's the number Justin?" at 15s. I liked Mulcair's cynicism, made him seem human. Angry Mulcair was a rockstar before the election, it just got weird when he tried to tone it down and smile. I think 5 debates was enough, more than enough even. I'm not sure how much more of this I could take, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4h_o4OrDnU&t=51s.
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Helsing posted:The most striking thing about watching Jennifer Hollet trying (and eventually succeeding at) winning an NDP nomination was how obvious it seemed that only a few years earlier she would have been a progressive-leaning federal Liberal. She had no political experience or strong views, just a sort of vague desire to "make a difference" and to "start conversations". While she as an individual is probably committed to the NDP from now on, I assume that people just like her but a few years earlier have already gravitated back to the Liberal party and brand.
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Oct 27, 2016 21:43
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Angry Mulcair was fun when he was angry about C-51 or C-26 or all dumb poo poo Harper was doing. Getting angry about the specifics of a referendum was puzzling, considering that the younger voters the NDP should be trying to rally were probably more worried about their Pokemon Cards in 95.
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CLAM DOWN posted:I agree, vaccines are dumb and pointless and wifi is murdering us all slowly and painfully. It's also worth noting that, given the Green Party is full of morons and crazy people, the message to the other parties isn't "be more left wing" when you vote for them, it's "there's an imbecile who can probably never be reached because their brain is bad and broken." None of the other parties want to go fishing in that pond, for obvious reasons.
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PT6A posted:It's also worth noting that, given the Green Party is full of morons and crazy people, the message to the other parties isn't "be more left wing" when you vote for them, it's "there's an imbecile who can probably never be reached because their brain is bad and broken." None of the other parties want to go fishing in that pond, for obvious reasons. This is like saying conservatives who vote for the CPC because of their political platform have bad and broken brains because that party is full of morons and crazy people who are anti-abortion and anti-LGBT rights. Just because you disagree with some fringe elements of a party doesn't mean you disagree with the entire platform. Please point me to the GPC platform point that suggests banning vaccines and wifi.
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Three Hole Punk posted:Wow PT6A is.... right?? Broken clocks, etc.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Jan posted:This is like saying conservatives who vote for the CPC because of their political platform have bad and broken brains because that party is full of morons and crazy people who are anti-abortion and anti-LGBT rights. Just because you disagree with some fringe elements of a party doesn't mean you disagree with the entire platform. Please point me to the GPC platform point that suggests banning vaccines and wifi. Well, to be fair, that exact point is why I stopped voting for those bastards and am now happy with a Liberal government doing most of the same poo poo without any of the crazy xenophobic/homophobic/sexist bullshit. The system works! 
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Jan posted:This is like saying conservatives who vote for the CPC because of their political platform have bad and broken brains because that party is full of morons and crazy people who are anti-abortion and anti-LGBT rights. Just because you disagree with some fringe elements of a party doesn't mean you disagree with the entire platform. Please point me to the GPC platform point that suggests banning vaccines and wifi. Have you ever listened to Elizabeth May? Read her Twitter? Remember, she asked the House of Commons to study loving chemtrails. I volunteered for the Green Party back in high school and yeah, they're full of nutjobs. Nice people that shouldn't be anywhere near science policy, which is saying a lot because they're supposed to be the Green Party. For bonus points, the background of the party was all legacy apparatus from the Reform Party of all things. The Green Party is just a loving mess that doesn't do anything to make it worthwhile.
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cowofwar posted:Not many voter groups left after the major parties have had their pickings except the maligned whackos by definition. Fringe parties always shed their crazy policies and voters as they increase in popularity and get moved to the center. I dunno dude, it pretty consistently sounds like nobody in here supports any of the 3 major parties, and simultaneously think the greens are a joke. So...... wtf? Is it possible that all the parties are poo poo and don't represent anyone's views halfway competently? 
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Oct 28, 2016 01:24
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I was 1 one of 4393 people to vote Communist and I agree with their platform wholeheartedly.
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P.d0t posted:I dunno dude, it pretty consistently sounds like nobody in here supports any of the 3 major parties, and simultaneously think the greens are a joke. Most of us begrudgingly support the NDP as the best of three bad options. Also bear in mind that most CanPol regulars are far to the left of the Canadian political spectrum. So yeah we see all the parties as pretty poo poo even if most of us are pragmatic enough to vote for the NDP as the least bad option. If you look at the general public instead you'll probably find that they're big fans of Justin Trudeau and even when presented with bad things he does, they say "Hey man get your act together! Not cool! I'll still vote for you though  ". Speaking from experience with my own family here.
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i think overall people place too much value on voting and overestimate what impact their vote has, it's infitismal and basically meaningless
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Oct 28, 2016 02:55
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seriously let's just form the Goon Party
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a house for every neck-beard a set of stairs in every house
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RBC posted:i think overall people place too much value on voting and overestimate what impact their vote has, it's infitismal and basically meaningless Yeah, it's not like I can act smug about voting NDP, our MP is wildly popular (returned with a majority of the popular vote) and we're one of the QS seats at the provincial level. No other party gets over 20%.
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Oct 28, 2016 03:05
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I'm glad to be back in Canada, even if it was (very) economically disadvantageous. It's nice here, I like it. You're all great.
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Subjunctive posted:I'm glad to be back in Canada, even if it was economically disadvantageous. It's nice here, I like it. You're all great. Thanks, you too friend.
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Oct 28, 2016 03:25
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lol https://twitter.com/robgillezeau/status/791830534758334464
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I think you mean "low wealth".
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lmao there is no such thing as a poor or low income Canadian. There are only people from humble backgrounds and normal people.
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vyelkin posted:lmao there is no such thing as a poor or low income Canadian. There are only people from humble backgrounds and normal people. I think you mean middle-class.
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Pinterest Mom posted:I think you mean middle-class. Goes without saying
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vyelkin posted:lmao there is no such thing as a poor or low income Canadian. There are only people from humble backgrounds and normal people. Uh, I think you'll find that we're all middle-class, friend. Edit: what I get for not refreshing
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Actually my favourite part of that is the implication that you can come from a humble background but not currently be of a humble status. You may have a humble past, but your present is your membership in the middle class along with the other 36,286,424 Canadians.
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Help the middle class and those striving to join the middle class
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https://twitter.com/robgillezeau/status/791855589794025472 🙃🙃🙃
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why would we need electoral reform now that the liberals are in, and will rule for a million years?
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less than three posted:
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CLAM DOWN posted:Victoria BC Guess she has a point about money and influence, there's no amount of money that'd make Christy Clark show up and hold a legislative session.
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vyelkin posted:Actually my favourite part of that is the implication that you can come from a humble background but not currently be of a humble status. You may have a humble past, but your present is your membership in the middle class along with the other 36,286,424 Canadians. Actually there are only 36,286,423 middle class Canadians. There's one rich guy, one poor guy, and everyone else is in the middle.
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I hope the Liberals are reduced to unofficial party status next election just so I can see them freak out about needing electoral reform again. And while Im hoping for things that will never happen, I also want a unicorn made out of diamonds.
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less than three posted:Guess she has a point about money and influence, there's no amount of money that'd make Christy Clark show up and hold a legislative session. Look at this guy who doesn't properly understand how a contract with the old ones works. There is always a price.
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Helsing posted:Assuming you would fit in there and have a decent social circle and economic prospects why would you ever not prefer to live in western Europe rather than Canada? That's madness. God live in France dude, this country sucks. I know this is a page late, but I'm in the UK right now after a brief stint in Poland in the old family homestead, and holy gently caress, even their small village near a small town (<40,000) is walkable. Even getting to the nearby large city still cost me only 13zł for an hour ride in a minibus. I actually enjoyed walking and wasn't bored after even 500m of endless suburban sprawl. mojo1701a fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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It is honestly easier to get around some 2nd and 3rd world countries than it is to get around in Rural Ontario without a car.
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Yeah it's nuts, my favourite is going to rural Ontario and seeing some poor gently caress who's had one too many duis biking 400km with 40lbs of groceries
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Quick, someone ask her if the envelopes she has received are red in colour
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