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2016 and our new post fact world. What in the actual gently caress is happening.
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Kazak_Hstan posted:well my toilets stopped up, i could fix it, or I could go dig a hole in those jurors yards with a stolen tractor and poo poo in it, since that's apparently not a crime pick one of the rooms in their house at random and use it as a toilet for a month with 30 of my closest buddies
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Oct 28, 2016 00:25
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Telsa Cola posted:Im wondering too, I know the whole "trial by jury of your peers" and not being charged twice thing but what happens if the jury goes "eh gently caress it not guility" Like could I straight up murder a dude infront of a security camera in good light and state my name and everything and still get a not guilty charge if the jury was stupid af? what do you think they used to do when a white guy murdered a black person?
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Oct 28, 2016 00:25
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Quorum posted:
Where is this city?
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Oct 28, 2016 00:25
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Welp, time for me to find a park east of the Mississippi to work in, gently caress this poo poo.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:26
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They should have killed all three hundred of those fucks in bunkerville the first time around and this never would have happened congratulations, FBI, your desire to let white people off the hook is all the proof that the sovereign citizens need that their bullshit magic words actually work
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Oct 28, 2016 00:26
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Condiv posted:what do you think they used to do when a white guy murdered a black person? Promote them to lieutenant instead of giving them a desk job.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:26
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WrenP-Complete posted:Is there a way we could know if it's jury nullification? No. that's why you can't stop it. Unless the jury literally comes forward and says "we the jury think he's guilty but gently caress it" there is nothing the prosecution can do. This is by design. The best defense against it is not ever mentioning it, even to say "don't do it."
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Oct 28, 2016 00:27
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Are you loving kidding me?
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Oct 28, 2016 00:27
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i'll be honest, i didn't think the fbi was even gonna bring charges. but i was right that these guys were gonna get away with it so hooray? 
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Oct 28, 2016 00:28
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Evil Fluffy posted:So the prosecutors are going to appeal because this is completely loving insane, right? the government can't appeal a not guilty verdict
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Oct 28, 2016 00:27
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Evil Fluffy posted:So the prosecutors are going to appeal because this is completely loving insane, right? You don't get to appeal an NG.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:28
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Telsa Cola posted:Im wondering too, I know the whole "trial by jury of your peers" and not being charged twice thing but what happens if the jury goes "eh gently caress it not guility" Like could I straight up murder a dude infront of a security camera in good light and state my name and everything and still get a not guilty charge if the jury was stupid af? Pretty much yeah. This is not a hypothetical. That actually happened with white mobs lynching blacks. Before CCTV, granted.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:27
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My faith in the American justice system has been restored. It was about time Whitey got a leg up in this crooked world.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:27
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So there was some talk about how the participation in this militia bullshit had been dropping once the Bundy Buddies got rounded up and stuffed in jail, but now that apparently they've proven you can pull this kind of poo poo and get a not-guilty verdict, are we going to see them skyrocket? I mean, jesus gently caress, what were these idiot jurors thinking
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Oct 28, 2016 00:28
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A Tim Buckley level miscarriage of justice.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:29
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Does this mean that the juror that got expelled was the one guy refusing to vote not guilty?
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Oct 28, 2016 00:28
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Tiny Bug Child posted:the government can't appeal a not guilty verdict Lessor charges. We are crashing sound cloud or what ever poo poo SA is hosted on too
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Oct 28, 2016 00:29
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the fbi are going to have to give all of them back their guns
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Oct 28, 2016 00:29
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ponzicar posted:Does this mean that the juror that got expelled was the one guy refusing to vote not guilty? yup. I also wonder what mumford did to get arrested.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:29
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Tiny Bug Child posted:the government can't appeal a not guilty verdict Can't they say that the gold fringe wasn't long enough and the verdict doesn't count?
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Oct 28, 2016 00:30
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ponzicar posted:Does this mean that the juror that got expelled was the one guy refusing to vote not guilty? Yes.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:30
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ponzicar posted:Does this mean that the juror that got expelled was the one guy refusing to vote not guilty? Probably
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Oct 28, 2016 00:29
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ponzicar posted:Does this mean that the juror that got expelled was the one guy refusing to vote not guilty? Maybe! We'll probably never know.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:30
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ponzicar posted:Does this mean that the juror that got expelled was the one guy refusing to vote not guilty? yeah but he worked for BLM so he was biased once he was gone, the juror deliberations consisted of fourteen words and a bunch of not guilty checking
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Oct 28, 2016 00:30
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Mr. Nice! posted:yup. He told AB he's free to go, which the authorities didn't agree with.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:30
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all the attorneys look around the room, cconfused as heck. Defense attorney: "excuse me, your honor, uhhhhh whatt????" prosecutors purse lips, cock heads to side, shrug reflexively
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Oct 28, 2016 00:31
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Zamujasa posted:So there was some talk about how the participation in this militia bullshit had been dropping once the Bundy Buddies got rounded up and stuffed in jail, but now that apparently they've proven you can pull this kind of poo poo and get a not-guilty verdict, are we going to see them skyrocket? that is exactly what they wanted. i bet they are sov cits too
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Oct 28, 2016 00:31
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nm posted:You don't get to appeal an NG. See also the Constitutional provision against double jeopardy. Holy poo poo what a bad beat. This is going to lead to so many new sovcits in court.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:30
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Teddybear posted:Maybe! We'll probably never know. They called him biased and told on him. So yeah he disagreed with the group. gently caress Oregon.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:30
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nm posted:Yes. So many charges and so many defendants. As this was a new jury, just sayin' In fairness, I also said this: nm posted:If Bundy walks they got the goofiest jury ever.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:31
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TotalLossBrain posted:He told AB he's free to go, which the authorities didn't agree with.
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Teddybear posted:Maybe! We'll probably never know. Can't the juror that got dismissed talk about it now?
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Oct 28, 2016 00:32
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The bundys proper still have another trial in Nevada tho right
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Oct 28, 2016 00:32
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Mr. Nice! posted:yup. https://twitter.com/maxoregonian/status/791781891363917824
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Oct 28, 2016 00:32
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Look forward to the sov cit celebration live stream. Please post.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:32
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This is not necessarily over. Remember this was a conspiracy charge. It was a conspiracy charge because it was proprietary jurisdiction, meaning federal charges requiring special maritime or territorial jurisdiction were not available (the basic substantive criminal statutes), same with the Assimilative Crime Act. The full weight of Oregon criminal statutes can still be applied here. That is not a double jeopardy issue. That is, if the state of Oregon wants to deal with this.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:33
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Mirthless posted:They should have killed all three hundred of those fucks in bunkerville the first time around and this never would have happened This is the absolute worst possible outcome. Now the wingnuts around the country have seen that they can do whatever they want and face no consequences if white enough. With Trump riling them up more and more, we will see much more terrorism this November. We know that jurors will gladly let them all walk even with mountains of evidence because they can't being themselves to make white right wingers face any kind of responsibility. I want each of those jurors to personally watch what their idiocy has allowed.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:32
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BTW, I have 20bux saying juror 11 speaks within the month.
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Tayter Swift posted:The bundys proper still have another trial in Nevada tho right Ammon does, not sure about the others.
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