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Sinteres posted:Federal court. I meant "The State" as in, the federal government. Also https://twitter.com/maxoregonian/status/791781891363917824
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highme posted:Jesus gently caress, how badly did the state handle that case? They seemed to be pretty competent through the trial. This morning they really blew it though when they let the rest of the jury get one of the jurors dismissed for alleged bias. Probably should have fought for a mistrial instead of outright replacement.
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Wait I've seen this on Law and Order a bunch of times. Surely this is all a deceptive aquitall so that the guilty defendents have just enough time to feel good and show a smug look on their face before Detective Stabler appears out of the crowd and arrests them on even more serious charges.
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highme posted:I meant "The State" as in, the federal government. ....the Mumford and Sons guy?
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cant cook creole bream posted:What in the holy hell? How many cops does a white man need to kill before he goes to prison? At this point I hope President Clinton just goes zero tolerance and orders that militia groups be handled with lethal force. If it comes out that the jury actually went with Jury Nullification stuff I hope every last juror's life is completely and totally destroyed in response.
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SubponticatePoster posted:It wasn't the state, it was the Feds and they did a fine job. This is the jury's fault and the inability of our society to punish right wing radicals for any misbehavior, however large. I mean for gently caress's sake this should have been a mistrial at least but nah let's throw out the only juror who isn't sympathetic to domestic terrorism and replace them with an alternate at the last second instead of redoing it with a new jury would these fucks have acquitted timothy mcveigh? probably jfc Jazerus fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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xrunner posted:They seemed to be pretty competent through the trial. This morning they really blew it though when they let the rest of the jury get one of the jurors dismissed for alleged bias. Probably should have fought for a mistrial instead of outright replacement. Not sure how that guy slipped through voir dire in the first place. Goatman Sacks posted:....the Mumford and Sons guy? We could only hope.
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Necc0 posted:how the gently caress They're white.
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Well, we still have the Nevada trial 
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oh boy I can't wait for the copycat occupations post-election
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Oct 28, 2016 00:34
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They still have Bunkerville charges (Ranch Standoff)
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If you think about it desecrating native land while white is the most American thing to do. gently caress them I almost hope they try something else and get droned.
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highme posted:Well, we still have the Nevada trial Oh yah, because that's sure to go well. Look, we might as well face the fact that unless you murder them yourself, white people can be terrorists as much as they want.
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iospace posted:They still have Bunkerville charges (Ranch Standoff) Including concrete-barrier-sniper rear end in a top hat?
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U-DO Burger posted:oh boy I can't wait for the copycat occupations post-election Yeah, just in time for idiots to be inspired by Trump's claim that the election is rigged when he loses. It's the perfect storm.
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U-DO Burger posted:oh boy I can't wait for the copycat occupations post-election Yeah there's no way this doesn't spread after the election. ffs
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Goatman Sacks posted:....the Mumford and Sons guy? It's his lawyer. They tased him too. They aren't letting Amon Bundy go because of the other charges he hasn't been tried for.
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WampaLord posted:Here's something to distract from engaging the troll: Holy poo poo, they rip Trump apart! 
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Oct 28, 2016 00:37
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If they had been Muslim the crater where the refuge had been would still be smoking.
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Oct 28, 2016 00:37
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At least the optics of this will help drive up outrage among liberals, especially anyone remotely involved with BLM.
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On the bright side, this may end in people trying to occupy the capitol or whute house or something to try to take are country back, and I'm sure that will go swimmingly for them.
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Ok, two things here: 1. We have, as I mentioned, charges related to the standoff in Nevada. The Bundys are not free to go. 2. The state of Oregon can still file charges. Is it over? No. Are we going to see copy cats? You bet your rear end 
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Drunk Theory posted:Oh yah, because that's sure to go well. Look, we might as well face the fact that unless you murder them yourself, white people can be terrorists as much as they want. Yup. This is a disgustingly obvious example of a jury ignoring evidence and any law just to suit their own biases. A black child getting executed for standing around is fully justified because he was no angel, but white terrorists taking over a town are just angry good old boys. It seems Tarp-man is the only one facing consequences for his actions.
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chumbler posted:On the bright side, this may end in people trying to occupy the capitol or whute house or something to try to take are country back, and I'm sure that will go swimmingly for them. " the white house is really for the people so not guilty on all charges"
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Telsa Cola posted:" the white house is really for the people so not guilty on all charges"
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I had my first trump supporter encounter today during a work function. After a couple margaritas a coworker decided to let his freak flag fly. (Regarding the woman blocked from performing in Philly for wearing a "we matter" shirt) "Bravo Philidelphia, about time someone stood up." He actually stood up and clapped. "People don't respect them because they hear that gangster thug rap" "Some things are just facts. Check the [crime] statistics." I read this poo poo all day online and laugh along but having it happen in real life, especially at a work event where I was obligated to be deferential and non-adversarial, was extremely jarring. I literally had a fight or flight response. I'm sure this isn't unique or interesting but I've been feeling very anxious since then and wanted to write something down.
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This is going to make racist militants feel empowered to do some incredibly violent poo poo after Trump loses 
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:At least the optics of this will help drive up outrage among liberals, especially anyone remotely involved with BLM. What good is outrage if they don't face consequences? Our outrage was channeled into the expectation that they would face consequences. They haven't. We said "look at them acting like they're above the law" and they replied "it's because we're above the law." We decided to show them they weren't. They won anyway. Ranchers and cowboys win. I'm not expecting much out of the Bunkerville trial either. I mean, we'll see...
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iospace posted:Ok, two things here: This came at the worst possbile time. With Trump riling these groups up for violent revolution when he fails and this emboldening them, we will see a wave of white right wing terrorists very soon and we have proven incapable of bringing ourselves properly dealing with them because white people aren't ready to apply their favorite word to each other.
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I can't believe this poo poo. These people are already at a fever pitch from Trump. I can't imagine what some of them are going to pull once Hillary is in office. EDIT: Even before that on election night when Trump doesn't concede.
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SoggyBobcat posted:I'm not fully informed on the American court system, is there any way for the prosecution to appeal? No. Jury verdicts are absolute. Edit: That is, acquittals are. Convictions can be appealed.
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Bah, well, if nothing else this convinced me I need to buy a gun. This just ruined my day.
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Endorph posted:the white house is for white FTFY in light of the upcoming election.
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How did this jury ever get past any kind of review? Who could possibly have failed to see that they were so biased that they were able to ignore mountains of evidence to let these miserable bastards go free after their stunts? There has to be some way to see where it all went wrong.
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Geostomp posted:How did this jury ever get past any kind of review? Who could possibly have failed to see that they were so biased that they were able to ignore mountains of evidence to let these miserable bastards go free after their stunts? My money is on they lied their asses off about any biases they may have and went in with a not guilty verdict already set.
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Juries are usually morons because smarter peopl get out of doing it.
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Geostomp posted:How did this jury ever get past any kind of review? Who could possibly have failed to see that they were so biased that they were able to ignore mountains of evidence to let these miserable bastards go free after their stunts? IANAL, I haven't even really followed the trial, but it sounds like they managed to miss one of the jurors having been a former BLM employee until earlier this week, so who the hell knows.
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"Jurors were unable to reach a verdict on Ryan Bundy's theft of government property charge." Butt Head:Jury nullification rules. Beavis: Acquit! Acquit!
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