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DeathSandwich posted:Counterpoint: It wasn't peaceful. lmao I'll never get over the super casual stroll this oinker has going on
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Oct 28, 2016 16:41
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This event has me literally scared Trump will win, despite all evidence to the contrary. What a world.
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Oct 28, 2016 16:44
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chitoryu12 posted:Honestly, that's the terrifying part. This is coming on the heels of Trump claiming that the election is rigged if he doesn't win and even encouraging voter intimidation. Knowledgeable people on the subject like our own Prester Jane (who has a history of eerily accurate predictions of these kinds of things thanks to her childhood being raised by people like them) have already predicted that a Trump loss is likely to see more incidents like Malheur or even the attempted immigrant bombing in Kansas. I agree. I'm of the opinion that this will have an effect, but not the one they think. Much like how Trump's claims of rigging and conspiracy have basically made any anti-government protest worthless (as you will automatically be associated with him and his ilk, and therefore haram to all but a certain subset of people), this seems like a clear message to the police and FBI that, next time, make sure no one makes it to trial. As we know from countless cases, police do not go to jail for killing civilians, regardless of the circumstances, and without witnesses or "poor innocent cowboys" to put up on the stand, the problem will eventually sort itself out. Sure, a few more instances will happen, but if so many of these cosplay commandos couldn't be bothered to show up for this one, imagine how few will show up to the third after a Waco style bloodbath. Which is a gigantic problem if, like me, you don't want the cops to be able to kill with impunity and maybe just a slap on the wrist. So the only folks left to do any occupying or domestic terrorism will be those demented and determined enough to actually follow through, and assholes will have a convenient target to point at and say "look, the cops kill white people too!" and dismiss genuine and real concerns about urban policing.
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DeathSandwich posted:The standoff was anything but peaceful and the videos of Tarpman begging to die prove that. They wanted a confrontation with the feds, the difference being they wanted the confrontation on their terms (at the Wildlife Refuge, with women and children as human shields) and they got snatched at their most vulnerable instead. They wanted to be martyrs soooooo bad and now they won't even get to stay in jail lmao
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Boner Zone posted:lmao I'll never get over the super casual stroll this oinker has going on
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nm posted:They were because they somehow let a jury of 11 sovcits plus one alternate sovcit get empaneled. This is what I don't get. If there were 1 or 2 holdout jurors then it would be plausible the attorneys just got unlucky or a little sloppy during jury selection. Unanimous not-guilty verdicts is something else. Also this trial was pretty well covered, wouldn't people have noticed the prosecutors were incompetent before the verdict? edit: Statistically if we assume the average prospective juror has a 50% chance of being a anti-federal government nullifier, there's still only an 0.02% chance of getting an all-nullifier jury. Even 50% nullifier probability seems pretty high, although I don't know much about Oregon. These have to be the unluckiest attorneys in the world. Nocturtle has issued a correction as of 17:01 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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sometimes juries fail, but what a case to fail on turns out you can get away with destroying government property if you're white whelp, time for a waco rerun
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Nocturtle posted:What about the blatant property theft? Medenbach stole an actual truck and was found not guilty. The attorneys weren't the problem here. Wasn't Ryan caught with money stolen from one of the safes? There were purchases on government cards as well, iirc.
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Oct 28, 2016 16:55
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i'm the cop to his right in the back that looks kinda into it
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yeah but they weren't charged with those crimes at this point. those might be state-level crimes that they can still be tried for. no idea if the state is going to pursue it though.
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Baloogan posted:Prove what? Only thing we know for sure is that they are literally Not guilty This is literally not true btw. If you assume good faith on the party of the jury then they were Not Proven Guilty Beyond A Reasonable Doubt
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Oct 28, 2016 16:58
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Jose posted:a billboard near me gets this quite a bit Seconds after this photo was taken that poor bicyclist's mind broke and he drove straight into an oncoming box truck. Also, this is worse than O.J. I thought jury selection was supposed to weed out literal retards.
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Oct 28, 2016 17:01
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are there no charges stemming from the poo poo that went down in oklahoma or texas or wherever that was?
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Feminasty Slut posted:Seconds after this photo was taken that poor bicyclist's mind broke and he drove straight into an oncoming box truck. Just the opposite - jury selection typically tries to weed out anyone with any expert knowledge or anyone with an opinion on any of the matters on trial Karl Barks posted:are there no charges stemming from the poo poo that went down in oklahoma or texas or wherever that was? That's a separate trial, apparently
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Oct 28, 2016 17:06
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These people carefully recorded days and days worth of video documenting in great detail the crimes they were charged with and got away with it because America is terminally stupid. Just give the country to Trump and end it all already.
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Main Paineframe posted:Just the opposite - jury selection typically tries to weed out anyone with any expert knowledge or anyone with an opinion on any of the matters on trial So our system is designed to keep jurors as dim as possible. I get the idea, but obviously we need some serious overhaul. Feminasty Slut posted:These people carefully recorded days and days worth of video documenting in great detail the crimes they were charged with and got away with it because America is terminally stupid. Just give the country to Trump and end it all already. The jury was so determined to be soft on them because they are white that they bravely ignored all that rather than risk letting those poor flowers face all that nasty punishment. Now if they were at all darker, they be lucky to be rotting in a cell, but they weren't so now we get to watch them start much worse.
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What's this mean? That I didn't correctly predict an outcome that even shocked the defense, not to mention the entire us? And lol you seriously are digging through people's post history like a wanna be helldumper 
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Oct 28, 2016 17:28
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I'm so angry at the verdict! Nnnnrrrrrrraghhghghgh!!! *Shits a mountain of cum that propels me through the roof of my office*
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Oct 28, 2016 17:31
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Burt Sexual posted:What's this mean? That I didn't correctly predict an outcome that even shocked the defense, not to mention the entire us? lol
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Geostomp posted:So our system is designed to keep jurors as dim as possible. I get the idea, but obviously we need some serious overhaul. I'm willing to bet on actual conspiracy among the jurors to obstruct justice. A "not guilty" verdict was delivered so fast after deliberations were restarted that it can only be intentional.
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Oct 28, 2016 17:36
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https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/792041009869762562 gently caress you Juror #4
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chitoryu12 posted:I'm willing to bet on actual conspiracy among the jurors to obstruct justice. A "not guilty" verdict was delivered so fast after deliberations were restarted that it can only be intentional.
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Casimir Radon posted:gently caress you Juror #4
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Juror 11 should not have been dismissed- the rationale was flimsy. This is partly on Brown.
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Baloogan posted:R u saying that the system is Nah just that a sizable population of the country looks and acts totally reasonable but deep down is actually hella dumb and the country is doomed as a result
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Oct 28, 2016 17:51
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cumshitter posted:I'm so angry at the verdict! Nnnnrrrrrrraghhghghgh!!! Should've stayed away from those sugar free gummy bears.
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Oct 28, 2016 17:52
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Casimir Radon posted:https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/792041009869762562 quote:"It should be known that all 12 jurors felt that this verdict was a statement regarding the various failures of the prosecution to prove 'conspiracy' in the count itself – and not any form of affirmation of the defense's various beliefs, actions or aspirations,'' Juror 4 wrote Friday in a lengthy email to The Oregonian/OregonLive. It turns out "conspiracy" was the word of the day and after everyone stopped screaming they decided to vote not guilty on everything.
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Oct 28, 2016 17:55
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12 Dumbass Men
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More Juror #4 shenanigans. Wishing this rear end in a top hat a nice long battle with cancer.
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chitoryu12 posted:I'm willing to bet on actual conspiracy among the jurors to obstruct justice. A "not guilty" verdict was delivered so fast after deliberations were restarted that it can only be intentional. hahaha yeah the Federal government should appoint a special prosecutor to go after these jurors, arrest them, and imprison them, and then re-try the Bundys totally thats totally what they should do ahahahahahahaha
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Oct 28, 2016 17:56
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One time an armed mob took over my office building but I still went to work because i'm not a huge pussy.
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Oct 28, 2016 17:58
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buesiness administration major, piece of poo poo spotted
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Oct 28, 2016 18:01
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guarantee this guy is a randian
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Oct 28, 2016 18:02
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I'm juror #4 and can confirm I'm a huge piece of poo poo.
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quote:Juror 4 noted the panel couldn't simply rely on the defendants' "defining actions'' to convict. 
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Oct 28, 2016 18:07
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Oct 28, 2016 18:12
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The jury's thinking appears to be "conspiracy? nawww, they look like good people" and the firearms/theft charges were apparently reliant on that charge. Hopefully the prosecutors in Nevada can make use of that.
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"Look, just because they literally, undeniably committed the crimes in question doesn't mean they're guilty of anything." -Juror 4, probably.
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