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SunAndSpring posted:Oblivion has pretty fun quests, while Skyrim just doesn't have that much good quests in it. plus it has one of the best expansions for any game ever
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Shivering Isles is easily the best TES after Morrowind.
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Oct 28, 2016 17:34
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The only main TES game that I've never, ever seen anyone advocate as their favorite is Arena.
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Oct 28, 2016 17:44
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Doorknob Slobber posted:the super special skyrim edition reminds me that with each game bethesda gets progressively worse. Fallout 4 is such poo poo compared to Skyrim. Also the special edition runs really well. Skyrim is easily better than Oblivion. Cyrodil is a big ugly level-scaled nightmare with lovely empty procedurally generated dungeons and a literally broken combat system. The reason the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood questlines are remembered so fondly is because there's very little combat or dungeoneering in either. Fallout 4 also improved on Fallout 3 in every way I can think (while still being a huge step back from New Vegas) but this may not be the thread for it.
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Oct 28, 2016 17:49
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I solved my black screen problem, for anyone else who might be experiencing similar issues, check to make sure the game is actually using your video card...
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Oct 28, 2016 18:00
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if oblivion had some more effort put into the landscape (maybe cut down on world size a bit because its mostly garbage empty space) and didn't have completely hosed level scaling, it would be looked upon as better than skyrim. even with OOO or maskars oblivion still isn't good though so  I played oblivion to ~100% last year, every faction, every dlc, everything except a handful of generic quests (I had a checklist) and while some quests were amazing, I can't say it was a good game. Skyrim despite all of its flaws just felt more fun. just play morrowind every day of every year forever
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Oct 28, 2016 18:06
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I know it will never happen, but I really, really wish Bethesda would do something to make combat in their gamebryo games more... better
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Oct 28, 2016 18:09
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Oblivion will always have a special place in my heart. It was my first full experience with a TES game and it blew my mind back in high school. I couldn't believe how detailed and huge the world was and the quests where actually interesting. I remember trying Morrowind when I was even younger but it was just too complicated for me at the time and I bounced off of it. I can't really imagine playing Oblviion now because they have iterated so well on the series and made a lot of QoL improvements. But at the time Oblivion felt like a massive step forward for RPGs and was miles ahead of anything else at the time.
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Oct 28, 2016 18:12
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FutonForensic posted:The only main TES game that I've never, ever seen anyone advocate as their favorite is Arena. Arena is so different it might as well be a separate series.
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Oct 28, 2016 18:23
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Popete posted:I can't really imagine playing Oblviion now because they have iterated so well on the series and made a lot of QoL improvements. But at the time Oblivion felt like a massive step forward for RPGs and was miles ahead of anything else at the time. I played it with an overhaul mod (that didn't really change much besides the scaling and progression really) recently and I thought it still held up pretty well, minus the potato-head people.
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Oct 28, 2016 18:24
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Anybody sad about SkyUI should click here. Goon "Turk" has some nice news for you!
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Oct 28, 2016 18:25
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Someone quoted my post where I said that SkyUI would be available for SE within a month and told me I don't know what I'm talking about, but come on, it's the most popular mod out there. Someone will make it work.
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Oct 28, 2016 19:20
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TBH I never got what was so much better about skyui than the default one. Neither of them is particularly good, so who cares? Neither of them are particularly bad either. You just needed skyui for a bunch of other mods, and if that requirement wasn't there I probably never would have bothered with it.
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Oct 28, 2016 19:31
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It seems that the PS4 mod scene is much smaller and severely hamstrung by Sony which sucks. Really wanted Live another Life but it looks like he never made it for PS4 -- just Xbone. I didn't think it contained any actual new assets but here we are
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Oct 28, 2016 19:36
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omg chael crash posted:Really wanted Live another Life but it looks like he never made it for PS4 -- just Xbone. I didn't think it contained any actual new assets but here we are So you can't bundle meshes, textures, scripts, sounds, UI files, etc, with it. Even if your mod only edits existing vanilla scripts (and so technically wouldn't be adding any new file), that's still something you bundle in an archive accompanying a plugin.
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Oct 28, 2016 19:48
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:TBH I never got what was so much better about skyui than the default one. Neither of them is particularly good, so who cares? Neither of them are particularly bad either. You just needed skyui for a bunch of other mods, and if that requirement wasn't there I probably never would have bothered with it. what the gently caress
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Oct 28, 2016 19:50
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Nina posted:
Hang on, what?
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Oct 28, 2016 19:50
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Raygereio posted:The "new assets" thing is bit misleading. PS4 mods are limited to only a plugin. That sounds dumb and I don't like it
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Oct 28, 2016 19:53
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Tasteful Dickpic posted:Hang on, what? There's a Nirnroot hidden in FO4. http://kotaku.com/fallout-4-and-skyrim-might-be-in-the-same-universe-1745249353
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Oct 28, 2016 19:59
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That's... incredibly underwhelming.
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Oct 28, 2016 20:06
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omg chael crash posted:That sounds dumb and I don't like it That said, while pretty much all of the cool mods that the cool kids are using are out of your reach, you can still use minor edits to improve your game. For example don't like Dawnguard's vampire attacks? Disable them. Want more dragons to fight? Make the time the game waits in between spawning dragons shorter. Off course without a PC version of the game, you're still stuck hoping some kind PC user make that mod for you. Yeah, the whole thing is pretty dumb.
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Oct 28, 2016 20:10
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Are there any decent thief and DB guild revamps in Skyrim that make the questlines and locations a little more convenient? Romping all over the place for fence quests is a pain in the arse I'd rather not commit to.Cat Mattress posted:There's a Nirnroot hidden in FO4. http://kotaku.com/fallout-4-and-skyrim-might-be-in-the-same-universe-1745249353 jfc, of course that's one of Patricia's articles.
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Oct 28, 2016 20:10
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Im playing it even without skyUI because I never found the original one to be that egregious its not great but its passable its been so long its like a new game almost. def glad "Alternate Start" was a day 1 mod tho.
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Oct 28, 2016 20:10
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Crash during character creation. TES. TES never changes.
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Oct 28, 2016 20:18
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Cat Mattress posted:There's a Nirnroot hidden in FO4. http://kotaku.com/fallout-4-and-skyrim-might-be-in-the-same-universe-1745249353 That's like someone saying that Zybourne Clock would have taken place in the same universe as Fallout because Johnny's corpse is in New Vegas. Or all of the cross-franchise easter eggs in every early FPS. 
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Oct 28, 2016 20:20
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Schubalts posted:That's like someone saying that Zybourne Clock would have taken place in the same universe as Fallout because Johnny's corpse is in New Vegas. Or all of the cross-franchise easter eggs in every early FPS. zyborne clock is an important part of fallout canon. also commander keen was murdered in between doom 1 and 2
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Oct 28, 2016 20:23
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There's probably an article out there about those other examples, they poo poo these kinda click bait articles out constantly.
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Oct 28, 2016 20:25
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Arivia posted:Arena is so different it might as well be a separate series. I disagree, honestly. I've been playing each Elder Scrolls since release, and I mean, there IS a huge break in tech and scope between Daggerfall and Morrowind, but honestly, I think you can see the intent/progression between the titles is pretty clear. Arena is closer to Skyrim then, say.... Fallout 3 is to Fallout 2. 
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Oct 28, 2016 20:31
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lol, played Skyrim Special Edition and it is about as trash as I expected. Audio is noticeably compressed to all hell, the textures have all been shoddily upscaled to 4k, the lighting system is terrible and badly optimized, and more. I suppose modders will yet again have to bail Bethesda's lazy rear end out.
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Oct 28, 2016 21:10
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I miss wearable cloaks already. Also, the environment looks great, but the people look rather dated, especially with the new environment as a backdrop.
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Oct 28, 2016 21:36
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Raygereio posted:Personally I still think it's Sony being silly over their proprietary file formats. Basically if you wanted to use mods and you could have chosen which version of the game to get, you probably should not have gone for the PS4 one. It looks like none of the Arth mods have been ported over to PS4. Was hoping for the patches at least. What a terrible choice I've made! omg chael crash fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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Oct 28, 2016 22:01
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SunAndSpring posted:lol, played Skyrim Special Edition and it is about as trash as I expected. Audio is noticeably compressed to all hell, the textures have all been shoddily upscaled to 4k, the lighting system is terrible and badly optimized, and more. I suppose modders will yet again have to bail Bethesda's lazy rear end out. reopen council club omg chael crash posted:It looks like none of the Arth mods have been port over. Was hoping for the patches at least. What a terrible choice I've made! ??? arthmoors mods are some of the only things that are ported
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Oct 28, 2016 22:06
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:reopen council club I meant to PS4, sorry
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Oct 28, 2016 22:08
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Colonial Air Force posted:I miss wearable cloaks already. It certainly looks like the PC/NPC poly counts haven't been upped.
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Oct 28, 2016 22:41
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Game looks mostly better in some environments. The lack of several mods doesn't bother me as much; it always takes so long for me to go through the lists and install everything that I didn't even want to bother last time I got the urge. From what I've read, they went about things as lazily as possible? Just upscaling textures and compressing the hell out of the audio and who knows what else. I'm glad it was free is what I'm saying.
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Oct 29, 2016 01:02
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Orv posted:So, better (arguably) skin textures,
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Oct 29, 2016 01:20
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:if oblivion had some more effort put into the landscape (maybe cut down on world size a bit because its mostly garbage empty space) and didn't have completely hosed level scaling, it would be looked upon as better than skyrim. So I have that rarest of things in this day and age, a (mostly) functional FCOM install. And y'know what? Oblivion's pretty good if you stuff it full of items and monsters with FCOM, get all the Unique Landscapes and Better Cities mods, and use a magicka mod like Supreme Magicka to make magic pretty deadly since the Francesco's components of FCOM makes weapons very lethal. Not at the level of Morrowind obviously, but it's better than Skyrim I think. Without spending like 10 hours of your life wrangling the mods though I agree, it's not a very good game.
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Oct 29, 2016 01:22
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the audio compression is weird because I'm pretty sure the base game's sounded better.
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Oct 29, 2016 01:34
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Man Whore posted:Its not arguable, they finally got rid of the loving nose aliasing That's good, but now it looks like everyone's pores are exploding, which is weird looking.
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Orv posted:That's good, but now it looks like everyone's pores are exploding, which is weird looking.
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