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Covok posted:What is the most interesting dwarves in a trpg setting? What's the most interesting hot take on the hairy little drunkards? Elderscroll dwarves since they're all dead.
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Gloranthan Elves are living humanoid plant-formed manifestations of the forest hive-mind, and Dwarves hate them because their messy, unpredictable growth keeps loving up their efforts to repair the world-machine.
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Oct 27, 2016 18:08
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FMguru posted:Gloranthan Elves are living humanoid plant-formed manifestations of the forest hive-mind, and Dwarves hate them because their messy, unpredictable growth keeps loving up their efforts to repair the world-machine. Best reason for a racial elf-dwarf conflict. --- Re: Anime So in general I find anime insipid. I thoroughly enjoyed Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex and the TV sequel however. Watched it with subtitles, rewound for important dialogue, etc. Given my biases will I enjoy Ergo Proxy (2006)? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergo_Proxy Any other hard scifi or cyberpunk in anime out there? I've seen the Cowboy Bebop movie. It was mildly entertaining but not hard SF. It's a space opera like Star Trek.
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Oct 27, 2016 18:16
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Battle Angel Alita and Trigun E: Sword Art Online Season 3
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Oct 27, 2016 18:22
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Planetes.
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Oct 27, 2016 18:30
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Don't listen to Plutonis, as usual. Trigun is a comedy, and Battle Angel is... depressing at times. Also I haven't watched all of Ergo Proxy but I'd say probably not. It ventures off into weird fairly early. A show you're more likely to enjoy is Psycho-Pass.
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Oct 27, 2016 18:34
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Helical Nightmares posted:Best reason for a racial elf-dwarf conflict. Mmmmmaybe? Ergo Proxy has some pretty dire lulls, and the final few episodes are honestly a bit weak after all the buildup, but it's in general an okay show. The stereotypical "recap/clip show" that a lot of anime do for some reason shows up and is completely inappropriate to the show's tone and arc, but it's probably one of the more original clip shows I've seen in an anime. quote:Any other hard scifi or cyberpunk in anime out there? The actual Cowboy Bebop series is great, though still not "hard sci-fi." I don't think there's very much of that out there.
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Oct 27, 2016 18:40
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Fine then, Angel Cop, MD Geist, Genocyber, Guyver, Jin-Roh.
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Oct 27, 2016 18:43
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Covok posted:What is the most interesting dwarves in a trpg setting? What's the most interesting hot take on the hairy little drunkards? * They swill vodka instead of weaker beverages * They are incredibly industrialized, with gigantic factories polluting the (snowy) ground and cold air of their homeland * They are specifically obsessed with firearms. * They are obsessed with death, and basically believe that the end of the world will happen any time now. * And in general, they are deeply philosophical, with many of the world's greatest thinkers * They have secret police who use mind control and bound spirits to patrol. And as you might expect, there are gulags. So basically they are fatalistic not-Russians.
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Oct 27, 2016 18:43
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:Fine then, Angel Cop, MD Geist, Genocyber, Guyver, Jin-Roh. MD Geist is legitimately amazing, and the recent-ish Guyver OVA dub has some hilarious voice acting. Let's all get together and watch Ricki-O.
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Oct 27, 2016 18:51
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That Old Tree posted:Let's all get together and watch Ricki-O. Live Action, Anime or Both?
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Oct 27, 2016 18:52
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Kwyndig posted:Don't listen to Plutonis, as usual. Trigun is a comedy, and Battle Angel is... depressing at times. I keep telling everyone this, but the Trigun manga is legitimately a much better developed sci-fi story than the anime.
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Oct 27, 2016 18:56
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Helical Nightmares posted:Best reason for a racial elf-dwarf conflict. I can't personally vouch for it, but Planetes might fit the bill.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:00
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That Old Tree posted:I don't think there's very much of that out there. Planetes, 95 % of Yamato 2199. Universal Century Gundam stuff if you're okay with sci-fi that makes one major change to the laws of physics and uses it to explain everything non-scientific. Gunbuster has time dilation from space travel as a recurring plot point, also.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:01
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Covok posted:What is the most interesting dwarves in a trpg setting? What's the most interesting hot take on the hairy little drunkards? I've always thought the way dwarves were implemented in James Maliszewski's Dwimmermont campaign was interesting. Dwarves carve their children out of rock and use precious gems and metals to add detail, with the process eventually leading to the statue coming to life as a new dwarf. There's an optional rule for starting in debt to your parents for the cost of your construction. It's really campaign specific and I haven't used it, but it's a neat idea nonetheless.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:16
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Space Brothers is technically Hard sci-fi in that it's basically realistic space program stuff set in the near future but it's also long stretches of not much happening, much like real space travel. On the other hand, it features the first anime voice acting done in orbit, so that's certainly...something.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:24
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:Live Action, Anime or Both? is the anime good? I've only seen the live action.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:29
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The Trigun manga's art style gave me headaches. Way too too squiggly. What about Appleseed? That was pretty cyberpunk. Does Jin-Roh count? They've fit the dystopian angle down. I'm surprised no one's suggested Legend of Galactic Heroes yet, I thought that was the usual for this kind of thing. Or VOTOMS.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:28
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Mr. Maltose posted:The answer, as with many such questions, lies in Glorantha. While we're talking Dwarves, I'll throw in a shoutout to Burning Wheel Dwarves - they're not particularly flashy and cool in concept, but their Greed mechanic is very cool in play. Which is typical of Burning Wheel - the concepts and flavor are mostly unoriginal or "basic," but the mechanics do a great job of reinforcing characters and supporting character-driven play.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:30
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Glorantha and Exalted dwarves for me. I think conventional dwarves can be fun but there's not much reason for them to be their own species instead of just being "scots/norse underground".Helical Nightmares posted:Any other hard scifi or cyberpunk in anime out there? I'd recommend Appleseed but only if you're willing to dig into the manga. The anime / movies are pretty dire in comparison. The first GitS manga series would also be worth your time.
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Oct 27, 2016 20:07
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Patlabor is hard scifi, or at least harder than, say, Mission of Gravity is.
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Oct 27, 2016 20:48
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Countblanc posted:is the anime good? I've only seen the live action. The first movie is pretty much the same as the live action but the second one is after the prison arc (which is when the plot and the gore violence goes batshit insane). The whole manga needs an adaption IMO, it's such an amazing and psychotic work.
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Oct 27, 2016 20:56
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Lemon-Lime posted:Planetes, 95 % of Yamato 2199. Well more like two major changes(Newtypes and Minovsky Particles), but yeah Gundam is a decent choice(I especially recommend Gundam The Origin)
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Oct 27, 2016 23:50
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Iron-Blooded Orphans, the most recent Gundam anime, is harder SF than the UC series — there's less by way of changes to physics and the robots beat the poo poo out of one another with projectile weapons and giant hunks of metal rather than laser-swords.  08th MS Team is probably the best UC series (tied with Origin) as it's basically Vietnam with giant robots.
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Oct 28, 2016 09:53
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Oglaf dwarves.
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Oct 28, 2016 12:03
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I liked the dwarves one of my players came up with when I was running Fellowship (for those of you who don't know, each player gets to come up with their own race in Fellowship and decides all the fluff for them, which the GM must defer to.) They were, without exception, dangerously, terminally greedy little maniacs who had a kender-esque grasp on the concept of personal property. The older and more powerful a dwarf got, and the more stuff he obtained, the stronger and more far-reaching this greed got. Your average dwarf was just a greedy lunatic who would be as likely to punch you in the face and steal your hat as he would be to grudgingly trade away some of his stuff for your sweet, sweet currency. Dwarven nobles would start border skirmishes and blood feuds with anyone nearby for seemingly no reason, following their own internal dwarven logic. The Patriarch of the Dwarves suffered the worst of all. Most high-level dwarven politics revolved around the most level-headed of his advisors attempting to avoid the Patriarch having to confront the fact that there might be stuff in the world that he didn't own, lest he declare another race war. Unsurprisingly, dwarven politics involved an awful lot of infighting and murder, so the Patriarch was exclusively the most dangerous and difficult to kill of the dwarves - and having him pissed off because he remembered that Elves exist and don't pay homage to him was bad loving news for any nearby dwarf. The reason why the dwarves sent their champion (the Dwarf PC) to assist the Fellowship in helping defend the world against the Overlord was that upon being informed of the threat, the Patriarch flew into a rage and insisted that this was his world and no jumpstart Overlord was going to take it away from him. A race war was immediately declared against the Overlord and all dwarves who got involved were incensed that somebody might try to destroy the world and all their stuff. The Dwarf PC spent most of the campaign declaring arbitrary things to be his personal property (money, weapons, towns, the lives of the Overlord's servants) and laying waste to any who disagreed.
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Oct 28, 2016 13:22
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BrainParasite posted:Oglaf dwarves. These are Forgotten Realms tinker gnomes. by the way thanks for the recommendations. I'm going to organize them pretty soon. Helical Nightmares fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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Oct 28, 2016 13:28
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 https://twitter.com/yenpress/status/792120003097157636
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Oct 28, 2016 23:45
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Now when is Marcille arriving on the real world and marrying me so I can bully her by making gross looking food
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Oct 28, 2016 23:51
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I think I've found the most evil PC plot ever;
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Oct 29, 2016 00:33
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Covok posted:What is the most interesting dwarves in a trpg setting? What's the most interesting hot take on the hairy little drunkards? I'm writing up a game all about playing as dwarfs exploring dwarf ruins, so I guess I can toot my own horn a bit. My dorfs are a pretty standard Tolkien-types overall, to be honest, though they do have a bit of Dwarf Fortress in their insanities. The game's implied setting has only a few always-assumed aspects in the game, and the PCs / GM are supposed to flesh it out from there:
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Oct 29, 2016 02:03
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drrockso20 posted:I think I've found the most evil PC plot ever; Reading this is intensely setting off my internal "this is a stupid right wing metaphor for those darn SJWs and illegal immigrants  ".
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Oct 29, 2016 10:54
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NachtSieger posted:Reading this is intensely setting off my internal "this is a stupid right wing metaphor for those darn SJWs and illegal immigrants
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Oct 29, 2016 15:01
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Yeah, there's no metaphor there. It's just straight up magical genocide via Baleful Polymorph with the added twist that they managed to indoctrinate the people to want it. The only way it could be more obviously genocide is if he had teams of Rangers hunt down the transformed orcs and kill them a few days later.
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Oct 29, 2016 15:37
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NachtSieger posted:Reading this is intensely setting off my internal "this is a stupid right wing metaphor for those darn SJWs and illegal immigrants How can you get an anti-immigration message from something as innocent as orc genocide 
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Oct 29, 2016 17:45
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It's a standard alt-right thing that the purity of the Western world is being destroyed by the liberal, politically correct, "SJW" types allowing all these foreigners into the country, with their despicable sharia laws and swarthy ways, destroying the history and culture and tradition, replacing it all with mosques and kebab shops. Usually with some line about how "hurf these dumb sjws will apologise for islamophobia while isis refugee terrorists cut off their hands for eating bacon" or whatever.
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Oct 29, 2016 20:42
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I find it very unlikely that Grummsh the Orc God wouldn't have intervened for his children by revealing the truth and inciting orc revolts.
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Oct 29, 2016 20:53
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That being said were I a human supremacist with the same resources as that PC I would have a more productive plan than this foolish dove stuff. Instead I would use all these magical and cultural efforts to turn the orcs into a loyal and pliant helot race bred for manual labor, channel humanity to creative and military arts and start an eternal racial war doctrine in order to keep the elves, dwarves and halflings with too low a population to challenge mankind and plunder their resources.
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Oct 29, 2016 21:28
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:That being said were I a human supremacist with the same resources as that PC I would have a more productive plan than this foolish dove stuff. Instead I would use all these magical and cultural efforts to turn the orcs into a loyal and pliant helot race bred for manual labor, channel humanity to creative and military arts and start an eternal racial war doctrine in order to keep the elves, dwarves and halflings with too low a population to challenge mankind and plunder their resources. And then be inevitably overthrown when your slave class rebels against you?
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Oct 29, 2016 21:32
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Kwyndig posted:And then be inevitably overthrown when your slave class rebels against you? Charm spells and cultural indoctrination would make it impossible!
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Oct 29, 2016 21:33
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