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socialsecurity posted:My AI friend offered me a bunch of money to declare a joint war, the next turn he denounced me as a warmonger, the turn after that he declared war on me, taking a break from this. The AI is absolute dogshit. If you don't have friends to play against don't bother.
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What is the key to focus on the selected unit? Please tell me there is a key and it's just not listed in the menu. I know it sure isn't C that I keep hitting out of habit.
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Oct 29, 2016 20:59
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Holy loving christ people weren't joking when they said Scythia was OP. I didn't realize how much gold units were sold for. Yeah there is no way this won't be patched.
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Oct 29, 2016 21:05
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Could someone please do a Norway domination victory with mounted units only and call it the Norse horse murder force tia
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Oct 29, 2016 21:11
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Could someone please do a Norway domination victory with mounted units only and call it the Norse horse murder force tia http://imgur.com/a/lYnST
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Oct 29, 2016 21:13
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Is this the "murder based economy" I've heard about, where commerce is so poor that you just have to keep conquering and pillaging to prevent yourself falling into debt? I never had to resort to that, I mostly knew when to stop expanding and focus on building up my economy. Or build a wonder just to get a Great Merchant, poo poo out his thousands of gold and run 100% ultra-science for a few dozen turns. poo poo could get crazy. Like the super-Oracle slingshot that abuses Great Scientists and teching in a particular order so that your Great Scientist will tech Paper, letting you research Education with the Oracle and hitting the Renaissance before 1AD.
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Oct 29, 2016 21:14
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Foppish Yet Dashing posted:Holy loving christ people weren't joking when they said Scythia was OP. I didn't realize how much gold units were sold for. Yeah there is no way this won't be patched. Current exchange rate: my horse for a kingdom
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Oct 29, 2016 21:18
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Why do all my spies have stripper names?
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Oct 29, 2016 21:23
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Does the AI get some ridiculous boost to great people points on higher levels? I'm playing on Emperor and have yet to be able to start a religion because all the great prophets are gone before I'm even close.
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Oct 29, 2016 21:39
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Double Bill posted:Does the AI get some ridiculous boost to great people points on higher levels? I'm playing on Emperor and have yet to be able to start a religion because all the great prophets are gone before I'm even close. The AI gets two settlers on Emp so they can pump out 2 holy sites ASAP.
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prefect posted:On a related subject, what's a good standard peacetime army size? I used to have a defensive unit and an offensive unit in each city, but you can't stack any more, so I'm not sure what to do. I find an archer in the city center is pretty good if you give them the garrison promotion. If you have any important districts you can garrison them in there too and they'll get the bonus toughness as well, the garrison promotion works in any district including the city center. That's about it as far as punching well above your weight goes, you can add more units but ranged units garrisoned in districts is basically top tier bang for your buck. If you want to you can take the policy that gives you an amenity for it too.
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Oct 29, 2016 21:55
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Two AIs declared a joint war against me and 5 turns later my capitol is war weary to the tune of -6 amenities. Is there anything I can do to rectify this? I can't fight a war on two fronts and also deal with knights spawning behind my lines.
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Oct 29, 2016 21:56
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Weirdly I had a game with Gorgo and Qin on the same continent as me. When i saw Gorgo's agenda I assumed I was loving in for it as she looked like Shaka 2.0. So yeah she declares a joint war on me with China, I turtle up and hold them both off, I sue China for peace after wiping out their army and get a bunch of free stuff for it, standard fare, but Gorgo of course won't do that, she keeps trying to kill me, raises another army, I beat that one up and she finally accepts white peace. Then immediately afterwards she decides she really loving likes me because I "conducted a long war honorably" and that she loving hates China for giving me stuff to stop killing them. So we become constant allies and friends for the rest of the game while she tries to slowly murder China and China bitches at me for stealing his wonders. So yeah, Gorgo I apparently really like, she will try to kill you, but if you don't die she will be your best bud.
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Oct 29, 2016 22:07
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Current exchange rate: my horse for a kingdom  It's hard for me to not play Scythia. Anyone else I just think man I could have so much more gold.
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Oct 29, 2016 22:14
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Has anybody else noticed that Gilgamesh's units get XP just for being near battles where Gilgamesh is not at war with at least one of the fighting units? You don't have to be in an official joint war with someone, or even at war with anyone. Just park your units near a warzone and watch them gain XP.
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Oct 29, 2016 22:12
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OwlFancier posted:Weirdly I had a game with Gorgo and Qin on the same continent as me. See, that's the good kind of whacky diplomacy. I'm totally down with stuff like that, and agendas can enable that.
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Oct 29, 2016 22:20
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Is there a way to swap the position of adjacent units using only the tiles they are on?
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Oct 29, 2016 22:34
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comedyblissoption posted:Is there a way to swap the position of adjacent units using only the tiles they are on? Yes, you click on one unit then right-click on the unit you want it to change places with. I'm sure you tried this already, but the secret is to realize that it only works when the game feels like it.
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Oct 29, 2016 22:36
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eXXon posted:I had it in fullscreen but not anymore. Yes you can. Delete one.
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Oct 29, 2016 22:44
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Jesus, thanks for all the poo poo Rome/Barbs
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Oct 29, 2016 23:20
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Classic Rome! (Rome's AI leans toward risky forward settles and pushes out lots of settlers without always guarding them. It's arising that sometime ends up like that)
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Oct 29, 2016 23:26
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Geight posted:See, that's the good kind of whacky diplomacy. I'm totally down with stuff like that, and agendas can enable that. Agreed, even though it is weird that the supposedly warlike aggressive civilizations (Gorgo, Tomyris, etc) always end up being my best friends because all of the supposedly peaceful civilizations constantly surprise attack me because they picked autocracy and I didn't.
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Oct 29, 2016 23:28
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The Human Crouton posted:Has anybody else noticed that Gilgamesh's units get XP just for being near battles where Gilgamesh is not at war with at least one of the fighting units? You don't have to be in an official joint war with someone, or even at war with anyone. Just park your units near a warzone and watch them gain XP. I think it also works with barbarians.
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Oct 29, 2016 23:50
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i wish the AI wouldn't give you poo poo for being ahead of them in government. Like if you are a monarchy and im a democracy how about instead of having them hate me just have them dislike it by like 1 point and say its because they mistrust my strange ways or some bullshit. I shouldn't have to hold myself back from the policy slots I need just because some bumfuck whose never heard of voting might not like it.
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Oct 29, 2016 23:59
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nimby posted:I think it also works with barbarians. I'm pretty sure it does, yes. Although I'm assuming you can't be at war with the civilization fighting the barbarians to get the XP.
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Oct 30, 2016 00:12
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OwlFancier posted:Weirdly I had a game with Gorgo and Qin on the same continent as me. Cleopatha is like this too. She joined in a war against me with Sumeria. I raised a army to fight Sumeria off and kill them. Egypt refused to stop until I killed enough of her units. After that she was super happy with me and was my ally until Kongo killed her.
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reignofevil posted:i wish the AI wouldn't give you poo poo for being ahead of them in government. Like if you are a monarchy and im a democracy how about instead of having them hate me just have them dislike it by like 1 point and say its because they mistrust my strange ways or some bullshit. I shouldn't have to hold myself back from the policy slots I need just because some bumfuck whose never heard of voting might not like it. -France, 1793 Byzantine fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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Oct 30, 2016 00:19
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reignofevil posted:i wish the AI wouldn't give you poo poo for being ahead of them in government. Like if you are a monarchy and im a democracy how about instead of having them hate me just have them dislike it by like 1 point and say its because they mistrust my strange ways or some bullshit. I shouldn't have to hold myself back from the policy slots I need just because some bumfuck whose never heard of voting might not like it. Don't curtail any of your plans to try and buddy up to the AI. Diplomacy is completely hosed right now. Treat the AI as random events instead of anything you can actually work with or plan around, at least until they do some patching.
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Oct 30, 2016 00:58
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I mean you totally can appeal to the ai with some effort, but it's not like it's actually that beneficial.
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Oct 30, 2016 01:13
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Wait are Mbanza's bugged or am I supposed to be able to build as many as I have rain/forest tiles? It seems kind of broken to be able to give each city +10-20 housing in the late classical/renaissance.
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Oct 30, 2016 01:35
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uPen posted:Wait are Mbanza's bugged or am I supposed to be able to build as many as I have rain/forest tiles? It seems kind of broken to be able to give each city +10-20 housing in the late classical/renaissance. Working as intended. Later in the game, you can plant forests, and then put Mbanzas on them too.
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Oct 30, 2016 01:42
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This game is completely unplayable for me. In the past hour, I've had SIX hard crashes to desktop. In this game alone I've counted over 30 crashes. All of them without any errors listed. I feel like I'm playing a Bethesda game and I have to quick save every second.
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Oct 30, 2016 01:49
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I haven't had any crashes since the one at the opening movie, but I autosave every turn out of habit from Civ 5. I would load them back before I disabled the unit autocycling if it made me mess up my movement that turn (it always did, just constantly), and I noticed that the game just straight-up cannot list anything in order. If you sort by time created, you'll find that the save from Turn 311 is on the top of the list, but Turn 314 is hidden in the middle somewhere.
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Oct 30, 2016 02:03
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The Human Crouton posted:Yes, you click on one unit then right-click on the unit you want it to change places with. I'm sure you tried this already, but the secret is to realize that it only works when the game feels like it. Both units have to be awake - you can't swap with a sleeping unit.
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Oct 30, 2016 02:10
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Fryhtaning posted:Why is this not the thread title yet?? Are they? The last time I used them on king, even with very similar combat strengths, my inquisitors would regularly lose 30-40 health attacking apostles who lost only 20-25. I only later noticed that the reverse happens if you can goad AI apostles into attacking you by literally standing in their way. I also didn't realize that religious units can heal.
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Hamlet442 posted:This game is completely unplayable for me. In the past hour, I've had SIX hard crashes to desktop. In this game alone I've counted over 30 crashes. All of them without any errors listed. I feel like I'm playing a Bethesda game and I have to quick save every second. What are you doing? Starting new games? Picking your way through a single one? Do the crashes happen in loading, when you act, in the AI's turn? I mean, I don't think that information will help people help you fix it, but it'll be interesting.
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eXXon posted:Are they? The last time I used them on king, even with very similar combat strengths, my inquisitors would regularly lose 30-40 health attacking apostles who lost only 20-25. I only later noticed that the reverse happens if you can goad AI apostles into attacking you by literally standing in their way. They're good for one thing only - removing unwanted religions from your own cities. They can't even go in the territory of your opponents. So if you conquer a bunch of cities from an opponent, start an inquisition and watch their cities' original religion fall like dominoes for the price of around 2 apostles - one to start the inquisition, and something like 6 or 7 inquisitors for the price of one apostle that would otherwise barely make a dent in your newly-conquered cities' original religions.
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Fryhtaning posted:Both units have to be awake - you can't swap with a sleeping unit. Nice to know. I never considered that. Assumed that if I ordered a unit to do something it would automatically wake up.
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There seems to be some sort of bug that causes ancient and classical era units to build faster even if you don't have the relevant policies slotted. Either that or I'm going crazy, but I can't make the cog number match up to production times. A horseman takes 2-3 turns to produce while a crossbowman takes 10+ even though the horsemen is 80 cogs compared to 180 for the crossbow. I was able to use inquisitors to combat enemy apostles well enough, but often they are straight-up weaker so you need to cover them or have some kind of boost like the Theocracy government and/or Religious Orders. Note that the military policy for combat bonus against civilizations following another religion seems to work for theological combat.
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Fryhtaning posted:They're good for one thing only - removing unwanted religions from your own cities. They can't even go in the territory of your opponents. So if you conquer a bunch of cities from an opponent, start an inquisition and watch their cities' original religion fall like dominoes for the price of around 2 apostles - one to start the inquisition, and something like 6 or 7 inquisitors for the price of one apostle that would otherwise barely make a dent in your newly-conquered cities' original religions. Well yeah but if you use them in combat, you can prevent opposing civs from converting city states or 3rd party cities.
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