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wide stance posted:In another engineering win for the Macbook Pro they put the headphone port on the right What the gently caress does any of this mean? The cord lies on the table, it's not in the way. Are you guys just inventing imagined scenarios to bitch about now?
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Sunflower iMac chat:~Coxy posted:Mac OS 9 classic games machine. That might actually be something. I have a friend whose husband has some OS 9 game he loves. Heroes of Might & Magic 5 or something, I think. I'm gonna ask him if he wants it (if he can be arsed to install it without a working DVD drive, haha). Krispy Kareem posted:They are neat though. I wish Apple hadn't abandoned the articulating arm so quickly. Yeah, it'd be a fun desk toy if it wasn't so big. The arm moves so smoothly. I even used it to carry it around before I learned from this thread that that's just its intended purpose, too! I had this dumb idea from way before the iPad became a thing, where I'd stick an old iMac in a corner to look up things on the fly. Now we all just carry iPads and that made that idea obsolete. Not that I'm complaining, it's just kinda surreal how technology changes.
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FCKGW posted:What the gently caress does any of this mean? The cord lies on the table, it's not in the way. Are you guys just inventing imagined scenarios to bitch about now? Power, video out, and headphone should all be on the right so you don't have the cords in the way of mousing
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Zwille posted:Sunflower iMac chat: Btw, those iLamp Macs use a bog-standard PC IDE 5-1/4" DVD drive, I bought my 17" at a thrift store for $25 and put an old DVD burner in it to replace the original dead drive. You can get them on eBay for like :tenbux: but usually somebody's got one lying around gathering dust. They're a little weird to take apart the first time, but not too bad.
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FCKGW posted:What the gently caress does any of this mean? The cord lies on the table, it's not in the way. Are you guys just inventing imagined scenarios to bitch about now? Why are you constantly posting as if you're on the verge of a panic attack
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Bob Morales posted:Power, video out, and headphone should all be on the right so you don't have the cords in the way of mousing You mean left? (As an aside I'm left handed and somehow managed to learn to use the mouse with both hands. It's weird cause at work it's on the right, at home it's on the left, unless I fire up a game then it switches to the right cause of WASD, and also switches to the right as well if I'm using Vim…)
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Buca di Bepis posted:Why are you constantly posting as if you're on the verge of a panic attack this thread has gone off the deep end with the "Apple is doomed" rhetoric, more so than normal keynotes
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Bob Morales posted:Power, video out, and headphone should all be on the right so you don't have the cords in the way of mousing Lol As long as we're nitpicking I think my MacBook Pro should be able to make me breakfast
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Bob Morales posted:Power, video out, and headphone should all be on the right so you don't have the cords in the way of mousing thread is in shambles
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Oct 30, 2016 15:57
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Probably because it's the second announcement in two months where a major product is worse in a lot of ways than its predecessor. It's not good for Apple that so many of us are going "you know what I think I'll hold on to my old iPhone and Macbook for another year." This is the longest I've gone without updating either.
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I'm so looking forward to the day the first completely port-less Macbook is presented. Marvel of technology, inductive charging, all gadgets run on Future Bluetooth, and everyone will be like, JONY WHY MUST YOU TAKE AWAY OUR PORTS Or the day the first Macbook with an "all-glass", 0% bezel display comes out. JONY HOW CAN I TAPE OVER MY WEBCAM NOW
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ethanol posted:Lol I'm pretty sure my old 2006 MBP could cook an egg if that helps.
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Cingulate posted:I'm so looking forward to the day the first completely port-less Macbook is presented. Marvel of technology, inductive charging, all gadgets run on Future Bluetooth, and everyone will be like, JONY WHY MUST YOU TAKE AWAY OUR PORTS Nah, this is the culmination of a few years of worries. Apple's been pushing lighter and longer battery life as the core attributes of their product lines to the point that .5 mm THINNER! has become a running gag at least since that pencil commercial. Previously no matter what your misgivings about what they COULD do (especially with the MBP) if they weren't so focused on aesthetics at least the machines were demonstrably better each iteration. This time you're seeing some real trade offs. Apple itself is saying that they're only shipping 16gb ram max because of power usage considerations
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prom candy posted:Probably because it's the second announcement in two months where a major product is worse in a lot of ways than its predecessor. It's not good for Apple that so many of us are going "you know what I think I'll hold on to my old iPhone and Macbook for another year." This is the longest I've gone without updating either. Yeah, this. Just before the keynote I told a friend "Yeah, I'm going to upgrade this year." Now I'm not sure. I'm pretty tied to MacOS due to having to build iOS Cordova apps but even that can be outsourced to the "cloud" these days. I really like my mac but I don't want to be like those cranks that still buy 2012 macbook pros just because they are upgradeable.
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Cingulate posted:I'm so looking forward to the day the first completely port-less Macbook is presented. Marvel of technology, inductive charging, all gadgets run on Future Bluetooth, and everyone will be like, JONY WHY MUST YOU TAKE AWAY OUR PORTS The Onion, as always, is oddly prophetic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA
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Personally I think the touchbar is kind of neat. However, I'm really disappointed in the keyboard. I can't stand the Macbook keyboard. I don't know how anyone can use that and in any way say it is good and be taken seriously. To me that keyboard shows that Apple is willing to sacrifice a key component of the usability of the device to chase their obsession with thinness. xgalaxy fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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The other troubling thing about the RAM issue is that it is pointing towards them taking the same approach to the laptops that they do the phones - a device optimized for handling very well today, but which you'll want to upgrade in a couple year's time. 16GB is perfectly adequate now, but in 3 years? I got the non-upgradable RAM. It sucks if you like expanding it yourself on the cheap, but whatever. But there's no way that a laptop with 16gb today is going to have the same kind of useful lifespan as their older models where the RAM options were basically "enough to run the OS" "good" and "more than you need, buy a few years of use down the line."
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Does an extra RAM really use that much power? I was under the impression the components that used the most power were the display and processor. Either way, not being able to get 32GB is pretty disappointing when we're already shelling out $2k+. I don't have a problem with USB C and it's slowly coming becoming a standard anyhow. What I do find weird is Apple keeping lightening on the iPhone but continuing the 3.5mm Audio jack on laptops. I wish they just dumped lightening and went USB C for everything. And no Kaby Lake is an odd decision.
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Tab8715 posted:Does an extra RAM really use that much power? I was under the impression the components that used the most power were the display and processor. Either way, not being able to get 32GB is pretty disappointing when we're already shelling out $2k+. It's almost like this should have been a 2015 announcement and even then people would be pissed off.
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All jokes aside...would this have happened under Steve?
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If goons hate t so much that means it's good
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I don't know about everyone else but I'm contemplating picking up a cheaper MacBook Air...
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You can buy one USB C to lightning cord to connect your phone OR get all new phone and iPad chargers, docks, etc I did t realize that many people were going to require >32GB of ram. Today you can still buy 8gb Macs. You haven't been able to upgrade them in the last 4 years either way. I doubt the touchbar uses much power, but they probably lost battery by making the thing slimmer which it really didn't. Red to be.
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rear end Catchcum posted:All jokes aside...would this have happened under Steve? Yes, absolutely. All of it. Removing ports and adding contreversial poo poo like the touch bar is the Stevest. The amount of butthurt in this thread is at least on par with past Stevenotes. In fact the only thing Apple did that wasn't Steve was keeping the Macbook Air around in zombie form. Steve would have killed it dead, and then maybe killed the Mac Mini too. He also would have never allowed that LG turd to show up on stage. 8ender fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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rear end Catchcum posted:All jokes aside...would this have happened under Steve?
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Steve introduced windows iPod with music match software. Everyone just makes up whatever they feel like when they say "Steve would never do this."
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As someone who is looking forward to returning to some Mac hardware (iPad/MacBook), does it seem to anyone else like the product lines have fragmented too much over the past few years? I've been looking between Wikipedia and eBay comparing the specs of all the recent iPads vs buying new.
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A person on reddit tried using the Razer Core (external Thunderbolt 3 GPU case) with the new 13" MBP. https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/5a6z8s/my_experience_with_the_new_13_mbp_and_the_razer/ It doesn't work, not even in Windows. //edit: also regarding eGPU, this twitter account is apparently run by an "Apple insider" and claims that there's perfect seamless eGPU support in Sierra, intended for the 5k display that was allegedly cancelled. https://twitter.com/ATP_Tipster1/status/792763808569786368 https://twitter.com/ATP_Tipster1/status/792760465311039488 https://twitter.com/ATP_Tipster1/status/792760959773380608 + all of his recent tweets eames fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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9 out of 10 users will probably never have a problem with 8gb. Limiting to 16gb is in no way going to cause obsolescence except for a small number of power users that Apple isn't marketing to with these releases. They probably didn't add a 32gb option because not enough people would select it and it'd pressure them to price the 16gb (likely the most profitable trim) lower as a mid-sized option versus their premium. Apple loves to gently caress customers over with memory and storage. "Oh, you'd like a 32gb iPhone? gently caress you it's a 16gb you'll learn to hate or 64gb where you will always have about 30gb free."
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Yea. I don't see the 16gb ram as an issue personally. But then I'm not doing scientific computing. Then again scientific computing people are probably ssh'ing into more serious hardware anyway. 16gb is going to be a staple just like 8gb was a staple for 32bit processors for a long long time.
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Can someone recommend a keyboard for my dad? He's looking for the following: 1) Ergonomic. 2) Wireless 3) Apple keys
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Quantum of Phallus posted:eGPU on Mac is a pipe dream I don't know. It definitely seems like Apple have/had something planned. Some people made an external Titan X work on a default Sierra installation by flashing the card's ROM/EFI. http://www.macvidcards.com/blog/macos-sierra-had-native-egpu-support
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Cyrano4747 posted:Nah, this is the culmination of a few years of worries. Apple's been pushing lighter and longer battery life as the core attributes of their product lines to the point that .5 mm THINNER! has become a running gag at least since that pencil commercial. Previously no matter what your misgivings about what they COULD do (especially with the MBP) if they weren't so focused on aesthetics at least the machines were demonstrably better each iteration. This time you're seeing some real trade offs. Apple itself is saying that they're only shipping 16gb ram max because of power usage considerations Bob Morales posted:You can buy one USB C to lightning cord to connect your phone OR get all new phone and iPad chargers, docks, etc Apple's got their priorities just right. "Thinner!" is a joke to a lot of people somehow. I'm thinking: if Apple hadn't one day decided to make the first underpowered Air without LAN, laptops would still be horrible. Instead, it's 2016 and laptops are wonderful. And that includes them being really light. I carry a laptop around 4 hours every single day. I'm drat glad I get to do that in 2016 rather than 2006. Same goes for battery life and screens.
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Cingulate posted:Same goes for battery life and screens.
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Linguica posted:Same what? Your willingness to sacrifice them on the altar of thinness? xgalaxy posted:Yea. I don't see the 16gb ram as an issue personally. But then I'm not doing scientific computing. Then again scientific computing people are probably ssh'ing into more serious hardware anyway. (I ssh into our compute servers from my Air. I can prototype stuff locally when I don't have wireless, but there is zero chance I'll do actual computations on a laptop, not with 16, 32 or 64 GB RAM.) Cingulate fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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Is it worth upgrading from a 2012 top-spec MBP to a 2015 top-spec rMBP? I have a line on one for about $1500 CAD with trade-in.
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prom candy posted:Is it worth upgrading from a 2012 top-spec MBP to a 2015 top-spec rMBP? I have a line on one for about $1500 CAD with trade-in.
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Steve Jobs wanted to get rid of the function keys from the beginning. Even for their first Macs he hated them.
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