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Chances that fallout 4 come to it? We've got Skyrim coming so... pretty please?
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Oct 31, 2016 18:29
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greatn posted:My hope is not for AAA ports, but for original versions and games. Pretty much not going to happen, yeah. It's not just development costs that would make people shy about committing resources to the Switch on top of whatever else they're doing, either. Nintendo's coming off of the Wii U having done worse than anyone honestly could have anticipated. The Switch itself is again a console that's doing its own thing, will suffer from some sort of power disparity, and is again being marketed around a gimmick. It's a new console that is appearing in the middle of a console generation that is doing WAY better than all the pessimism in Games or from bloggers would suggest. The PS4 and even the XBox One are established consoles that developers are comfortable working with. We will probably see a lot of ports of AAA games of some kind out of necessity, since developers will want to have their foot in the door at launch AND probably do not possess the resources or the number of people needed to focus on an entirely new platform with new capabilities and limitations. It's fine that the Switch might end up being another Nintendo console I really only own to play Nintendo games on, but after the Wii U I am less willing to believe in the idea of third parties are going to do something special to support the Switch.
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LionArcher posted:Chances that fallout 4 come to it? We've got Skyrim coming so... pretty please? nintendo needs to get away from letting every piece of shovelware come out on their systems. really dilutes the brand
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Oct 31, 2016 18:40
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Nintendo has signed up a shitton of people to develop for this thing, and unlike the PS4/Bone it's portable, which is a Really Good Gimmick. I think the Switch will be a cool system with a healthy third party library, and the portability will appeal to certain kinds of even Madden and FIFA fans even if the AUTHENTIC EXPERIENCE is on ps4/xb and those remain the most popular platform for them, but of course the exclusives are going to be what makes the thing worth owning in the first place over an Nvidia Shield.
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Oct 31, 2016 18:41
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EA should take one of their late 360 Madden or NCAA games, rip out the licensed content, and plug in characters from their vast array of owned IP. Let you have Faith as an RB doing parkour over some Krogan linebackers.
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Oct 31, 2016 18:45
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I want full series collections on the Switch. Like the Metal Gear Solid collection for the PS3. Way too many 3DS games are part of series that you need to own a PSP and a Japanese DS to be able to play all of.
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Oct 31, 2016 18:46
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greatn posted:EA should take one of their late 360 Madden or NCAA games, rip out the licensed content, and plug in characters from their vast array of owned IP. Unironically good idea. Do it like NBA Street.
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Oct 31, 2016 18:50
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TheScott2K posted:Unironically good idea. Do it like NBA Street. I miss NBA Street so hard.
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Oct 31, 2016 18:56
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Seriously! What happened to the "arcade sports" genre with NBA Jam and Street, NFL Blitz, etc
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Oct 31, 2016 19:09
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EA put out an NBA Jam redux that was alright a few years ago. I think the licenses just got too expensive. A made-up-league arcade sports title would still be cool, though. Bring back Arch Rivals.
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Oct 31, 2016 19:13
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TheScott2K posted:EA put out an NBA Jam redux that was alright a few years ago. I think the licenses just got too expensive. A made-up-league arcade sports title would still be cool, though. Bring back Arch Rivals. You mean Mutant League, right?
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Oct 31, 2016 21:03
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What was the rationale for so many different versions back in the day? Like were the snes and Genesis so different it would have been the same amount of work to port Jurassic park or Aladdin as it was to make a completely separate game
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Oct 31, 2016 21:18
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The Walrus posted:What was the rationale for so many different versions back in the day? Like were the snes and Genesis so different it would have been the same amount of work to port Jurassic park or Aladdin as it was to make a completely separate game Radically different hardware? Too tight hardware specifications? Nowadays we have DirectX (and several copycat APIs) and OpenGL, and the hardware is powerful enough to gobble up any abstraction layer you throw at it... Edit: don't forget that hardware during the Snes/Genesis years basically dictated many things like some kind of special effects, which were the basis and constraint of the available kind of gameplay, being available or not. E.g.: Mode 7 which was the base for all the mode 7 racing games on SNES, or Hardware Sprite Scaling which made possible games like Space Harrier on Genesis. limaCAT fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Oct 31, 2016 |
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Oct 31, 2016 21:21
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I've got two words for you: Mutant League Hockey
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Oct 31, 2016 21:22
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The Walrus posted:What was the rationale for so many different versions back in the day? Like were the snes and Genesis so different it would have been the same amount of work to port Jurassic park or Aladdin as it was to make a completely separate game Yes. Also there were probably licensing issues, and logistical issues. Think about the difference between the sound chips alone. SNES and Genesis had completely different sampling libraries. Additionally, it's not like now where all graphical programming is standardized to like OpenGL or DirectX. Genesis and SNES both had different ways of handling, on a fundamental level, things like "color palette" and "moving a sprite around" and probably even stuff like scrolling. SNES had all kinds of weird powers that you could just invoke as like basic GPU commands, like Mode 7 and that thing from Castlevania IV where the background can rotate freely and still keep its collision maps.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:24
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i love the story about the saturn where everyone thinks it can't do transparencies since so many games just have ugly meshes instead but its just that the saturn's dual graphics chip design was so different that ports were not able to get the same effects as on ps1 without totally rewriting the game.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:46
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The Walrus posted:What was the rationale for so many different versions back in the day? Like were the snes and Genesis so different it would have been the same amount of work to port Jurassic park or Aladdin as it was to make a completely separate game In Aladdin's case that was just two different companies making two different games. Capcom for SNES and Virgin Interactive for Genesis. I believe that was the case for lots of licensed titles, companies would sell licenses to different game makers on different consoles.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:55
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Reiley posted:I've got two words for you: Mutant League Hockey I'll probably be skewered for this, but as someone who owns a full physical copy of that game I have to say that the actual hockey game mechanics aren't very good. Granted, that's not why people are there. Something like NHL '94 and '98 from the Genesis, the two best in the series in my opinion, still play solid hockey to this day.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:56
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Real hurthling! posted:i love the story about the saturn where everyone thinks it can't do transparencies since so many games just have ugly meshes instead but its just that the saturn's dual graphics chip design was so different that ports were not able to get the same effects as on ps1 without totally rewriting the game. i would like to read more about the saturn because it sounds like a hilarious nightmare to develop for
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Oct 31, 2016 22:02
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wicka posted:i would like to read more about the saturn because it sounds like a hilarious nightmare to develop for Sega (of Japan) has earned their failures.
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Oct 31, 2016 22:59
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Reiley posted:I've got two words for you: Mutant League Hockey I've got one word for you: gently caress Yes
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Oct 31, 2016 23:50
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JustJeff88 posted:I'll probably be skewered for this, but as someone who owns a full physical copy of that game I have to say that the actual hockey game mechanics aren't very good. Granted, that's not why people are there. Isn't Mutant League Football basically reskinned Madden, and Hockey reskinned NHL?
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Nov 1, 2016 00:35
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Imagined posted:Isn't Mutant League Football basically reskinned Madden, and Hockey reskinned NHL? This whole discussion started with the idea of reskinning last-gen EA Sports games with other EA characters to save money on licensing, so that's fine.
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Nov 1, 2016 00:40
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Not arguing with that. I can't stand sports sims, but I love arcade sports games. It just seems logical to me that you would use the medium of video games to do crazy poo poo you could never do in real sports. I also don't understand the appeal of racing games where you have to be careful not to hit things and actually use the brakes.
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Imagined posted:Not arguing with that. I can't stand sports sims, but I love arcade sports games. It just seems logical to me that you would use the medium of video games to do crazy poo poo you could never do in real sports. I also don't understand the appeal of racing games where you have to be careful not to hit things and actually use the brakes. pretending to enjoy gran tourismo is one of the three pillars of the Playstation Lifestyle
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Imagined posted:Not arguing with that. I can't stand sports sims, but I love arcade sports games. It just seems logical to me that you would use the medium of video games to do crazy poo poo you could never do in real sports. I also don't understand the appeal of racing games where you have to be careful not to hit things and actually use the brakes. Because managing the throttle and the grip of the tires and the limits of the track is more fun than just holding down a button and moving the stick back and forth sometimes?
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Nov 1, 2016 01:04
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wicka posted:i would like to read more about the saturn because it sounds like a hilarious nightmare to develop for use this guy's subtitles or it makes no sense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_OchOV_WDg
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Super No Vacancy posted:i've had that will smith song in my head since someone posted it, and i didn't even listen to it welcum 2 miami bienvenidos a miami
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Cojawfee posted:Because managing the throttle and the grip of the tires and the limits of the track is more fun than just holding down a button and moving the stick back and forth sometimes? You're describing a world where Forza is more fun than Mario Kart, and that's a world I don't want to live in.
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Imagined posted:You're describing a world where Forza is more fun than Mario Kart, and that's a world I don't want to live in. I've spent over 2000 dollars on just hardware for sim racing, so.
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Nov 1, 2016 01:32
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Imagined posted:You're describing a world where Forza is more fun than Mario Kart, and that's a world I don't want to live in. It's okay to Try at a game, and sometimes Win through your efforts and not merely by the will of your session's collective blundering. It doesn't make you a bad person, or a lowlife, to want to learn how to brake and drift and follow your line, in fact these are all core elements of the Mario Kart playstyle. I just talked to Reggie Fils-Amie about it, and he gave the go-ahead to send you this post. Nintendo will support you if you want to put some effort into your gaming.
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Nov 1, 2016 01:34
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Will Mario Kart 9 let me adjust spring rates and and caster angle?
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Forza and Mario Kart are completely comparable games and this is a wonderful derail I've started and immediately regretted. Good lord I wish we had even the tiniest scrap of actual news to talk about.
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Nov 1, 2016 01:52
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Reiley posted:It's okay to Try at a game, and sometimes Win through your efforts and not merely by the will of your session's collective blundering. It doesn't make you a bad person, or a lowlife, to want to learn how to brake and drift and follow your line, in fact these are all core elements of the Mario Kart playstyle. I just talked to Reggie Fils-Amie about it, and he gave the go-ahead to send you this post. Nintendo will support you if you want to put some effort into your gaming. I want to press the gas like a mindless blumbleblorb and scoff at the idiots that want to Test their Wits and Reflexes.
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Nov 1, 2016 02:02
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Imagined posted:Forza and Mario Kart are completely comparable games and this is a wonderful derail I've started and immediately regretted. The Nintendo switch has a new mario 64 coming out 
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Nov 1, 2016 02:03
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Imagined posted:Isn't Mutant League Football basically reskinned Madden, and Hockey reskinned NHL? I honestly thought that Mutant League Hockey was built off of the NHL 94 engine, but having played both quite a bit they don't feel at all the same in terms of controls and physics. It may still be that they are built on the same foundation, but NHL 94 is a much better 16-bit simulation of hockey. Mutant League has... other charms.
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Nov 1, 2016 02:18
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Being portable could be a big boon to the big video game sports franchises I think.
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Imagined posted:Not arguing with that. I can't stand sports sims, but I love arcade sports games. It just seems logical to me that you would use the medium of video games to do crazy poo poo you could never do in real sports. I also don't understand the appeal of racing games where you have to be careful not to hit things and actually use the brakes.  But I think the difference between sim sports and racing is that as long as you have a court/field and ball you can play the same thing in real life. Not as well and not with your favorite pro team but ultimately it's the same thing. With racing you can do it in real life too, but the barriers to entry are much higher. Race tracks aren't everywhere, the nice cars in the games aren't cheap, maintaining everything is expensive, etc. Well there's street racing but that's illegal, more dangerous, and generally an assy thing to do. Bongo Bill posted:Being portable could be a big boon to the big video game sports franchises I think.  I want to play Madden while taking a poo poo.The portable gimmick is nice for anything, and the main reason to get a Switch version of something over another console. If they made another regular power competitive console there'd be no reason to get Switch ports over the others. Portability isn't for everyone, but it's a simple tangible benefit that the others don't have*. There's the power tradeoff of course, but I could see it being "good enough". *barring remote play stuff, but I don't know of people outside of gaming forums that knows about it.
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I would love to see Nintendo capitalize on 8-bit and 16-bit nostalgia more by making some new games in the old school style with the sort of polish that no Steam indie dev cranking out pixelart platformers where a sad child moves to the right could match. Speaking of capitalizing on nostalgia, what are the chances of someone getting a NES Classic at MSRP before Xmas?
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