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oh i understand it, just because this is automotive insanity doesnt mean we should encourage this any further
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I'm not sure. The parts we need all have to be shipped in, and since this a small town that takes time. We're almost ready to get the engine mounted, we've got the bracket welded up, and we're planning a test fit. We can't however finish the shifter linkages. We need a ball with very odd thread count (13/16-14) I've got one order, but even if we rushed everthing, we'd still be cutting it too close. I need to be back in FL by Sunday. Assuming we get it close to running, that's still a 1600 mile trip in a truck that can't go freeway speeds. I mean, realistically we could get the engine bolted in, hooked up to the trasmission, and b in b a point where v all that's left is Lights, ECU wiring, brakes and tires.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:21
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ExplodingSims posted:I'm not sure. The parts we need all have to be shipped in, and since this a small town that takes time. You need to reach out to him, tell him there's no way to finish it in time and send him home. Make a plan with him for the next time you plan to work on the truck (hopefully in spring) and he can save for a bus ticket this time.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:24
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Yeah, I wouldn't be able to make it out til spring. I'm trying to get whoever has his contact info here to relay that yoo him. But I don't have any way to reach him now that his phone is gone.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:26
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BraveUlysses posted:oh i understand it, just because this is automotive insanity doesnt mean we should encourage this any further Your going to get some one killed or dead broke for a story on the internet.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:32
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I'm struggling to understand how anyone in this thread thought that was a less likely scenario a week or a month ago, when the two car options were the (not running) ancient tiny Honda or the (not running) ancient lovely Causemero? This was always going to be a mad drive to Nebraska across the northern US in late October in a piece of garbage car driven by a maniac. Were you guys confused about this?
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Oct 31, 2016 21:35
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angryrobots posted:Currently he wants to drive to Butte and evaluate whether the jeep can continue. Butte isn't a great idea. Missoula is going to be a stretch. If hes' taking 90, it's got construction and issues- even if the truck survives. ExplodingSims posted:Yeah, I wouldn't be able to make it out til spring. Even if possible to get anywhere, you really should have just trailered it closer to Billings.
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ExplodingSims posted:Yeah, I wouldn't be able to make it out til spring. I didn't mean to sound like this is your fault or anything, but he will listen to you if you tell him you're not going to be there any longer.
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I'm going to add in to the go home side here, he's had a go at three different cars now, none of them run reliably and is financially exhausted before leaving the state, this isn't going to end well if he pushes forward.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:39
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ExplodingSims posted:Yeah, I wouldn't be able to make it out til spring. His old number should work now.
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Leperflesh posted:I'm struggling to understand how anyone in this thread thought that was a less likely scenario a week or a month ago, when the two car options were the (not running) ancient tiny Honda or the (not running) ancient lovely Causemero? And? Seems like the very definition of AI to me. 14" was really looking forward to it. Madness incarnate. You don't tell that man no, you stoke that fire.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:42
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Yeah, but if he's already has this much trouble already, in a populated area, there's goinf to be a lot of trouble if he gets to the midwest. It's just plain empty around here.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:46
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ExplodingSims posted:I'm not sure. The parts we need all have to be shipped in, and since this a small town that takes time. what in the gently caress, 13/16-14, really? loving GM I never expected a clutch fork pivot ball to be the serious gamestopper. Wish I'd realized it was missing from the bellhousing you bought...  And yeah, Dave, I really don't think it's wise to push onward, unfortunately. If the drat thing isn't gonna make the trip to FL anyways, no real sense pushing hard and ending up broke, in Nebraska, with two vehicles that won't make it home instead of just one. Can always return home, attempt to mend fences with gremlin dude (especially seeing as the jeep has returned and is even working better now), and give it another shot when NE-FL truck pilgrimage part 2 goes down.
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Quadrapellegiance posted:And? Seems like the very definition of AI to me. He's 300 miles from home with another 1200 to go. It's taken 3 days. Now, I'm all for an IRL Oregon Trail (albiet in reverse), but we don't need a Donner Party Redux.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:48
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Well what do we do to get him funds. How does this WalMart thing work. Ive got $40 to contribute or if there is a trustworthy long timer in here I could PayPal it to if they were going to WalMart anyways. I am about to have 6 kids under age of 7 at my house for Halloween Party so I can't go to WalMart tonight. I asked 14 last night to send me info and I could have gone this morning but never heard back.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:52
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Yeah, why a bellhousing from the 60s has such a weird threading is beyond me. But, this does give me a chance to plan some more and get things worked out a bit better. I really wish it worked out better than this though. :/ Also, to anyone who thinks he v should press on, bring up his route in Google. There are seriously like 100 mile gaps with nothing in them.
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Oct 31, 2016 21:54
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He'll get the most out of it if there is someone we can trust to make the payment, and we can ePay/et al. angryrobots has offered to send some cash- I'm almost in the "Be Home or Get Egged" time, and USPS still hasn't picked up the SAMart goodies yet, today.. So, I guess we need to find out how much angryrobots is willing to front, unless IoC or someone else is willing to do so.
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ExplodingSims posted:Yeah, why a bellhousing from the 60s has such a weird threading is beyond me. Yeah, there's nothing like diving in headfirst to find all the weird problems you didn't expect in the first place. Unknown unknowns are a bitch - we ran into this quite a bit on the XJ 4.0L/EFI/AX15/NP231/SYE/8.25 swap into Sandbagger's 80s automatic YJ. The number of times I went to the junkyard for one stupid loving part, or had him rockauto order a handful of random things, was amazing. You guys are making great time by comparison. Once I'd done it once, IIRC we had Slow is Fast's dad's CJ5 started up running EFI after one weekend of wiring, after he ordered and junkyarded a bunch of random poo poo I told him to get and spent a weekend slamming the new motor in. Doing something like this once is difficult and has a steep learning curve because no one on car forums fully documents every single weird little year split and detail about every odd thing they had to deal with (because they forgot as soon as they got it working - been there done that), but doing it again is cake. Don't beat yourself up too bad, I was really pretty surprised how smoothly everything was going till this point. How well next time goes (if you don't pull off a miracle...) is going to depend heavily on how well you took notes about everything that went wrong or seemed "odd"* as you were working on it this time. * example: I got an NP231 transfer case from a friend for Sandbagger, it was from a 1994 4.0L ZJ. I said gently caress it, it's a 23 spline NP231, they are all the same, and installed the slip yoke eliminator kit, then tried to bolt it to the trans, except it bottomed out on the output shaft of the trans a quarter inch before the flanges met. Much parts catalog research and cursing later, I discovered that the tcase had come from behind a weird auto trans that was only used for a few years and had a specific input gear installed on it that, while 23 spline, had an odd pilot bushing pressed into the back to mate with the trans' output shaft pilot tip. Stupid. But I was stupid for assuming too much about my own knowledge, and it bit us hard. I ended up having to source a different transfer case, uninstall the SYE, reinstall it in the other transfer case, and then install that in the jeep. It cost me a wasted day in the shop and roughly a week on the project schedule as I recall. TL;DR: unknown unknowns will gently caress you hard especially if you assume you know all the details. Either way, this is down to the wire and if you can't solve that clutch pivot ball problem for sure by Wednesday, I would recommend spending time on stuff you have to do either way, wrapping up loose ends, documenting everything obsessively for your future self's sanity, telling Dave to abort mission, and giving it another shot once you regroup.
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West SAAB Story posted:He's 300 miles from home with another 1200 to go. It's taken 3 days. Now, I'm all for an IRL Oregon Trail (albiet in reverse), but we don't need a Donner Party Redux. What is home, really? He's in civilization, there's work around. Maybe it's time for a fresh start.
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Seminal Flu posted:What is home, really? He's in civilization, there's work around. Maybe it's time for a fresh start. I'd be all for him setting up in Spokane, myself. I don't think he'd be in good company bereft in Methville, Montana.
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West SAAB Story posted:I'd be all for him setting up in Spokane, myself. I don't think he'd be in good company bereft in Methville, Montana. For those who haven't lived in the NW Spokane / eastern Washington is full of meth.
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JudgeJoeBrown posted:For those who haven't lived in the NW Spokane / eastern Washington is full of meth. So he'd be right at home.
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JudgeJoeBrown posted:For those who haven't lived in the NW Spokane / eastern Washington is full of meth. It can't be worse than Butte. I mean, it really can't be worse than Butte (and not be a larger crater). Rhyno posted:So he'd be right at home. Dude.
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Oct 31, 2016 22:28
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I'm not wrong! This is why he needs to go back to Seattle.
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So long as it can be done online, I'll front whatever everybody's committed to in order to get 14 home safe. I am in meetings all afternoon but can do online money transfer / whatever if it doesn't require getting on a phone or physically going somewhere.
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Rhyno posted:This is why he needs to go back to Seattle. I'm relatively sure he was willing to-and did- burn his bridges there just to leave. I think his path to the end is further downhill, so I don't disagree. I just don't think he has any intention of returning. If you've ever read "The Stand", welp..
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I grew up in Lewiston, 2 hours from Spokane. Spokane was where we hung out every weekend. It's the meth capital of the PNW.
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West SAAB Story posted:He'll get the most out of it if there is someone we can trust to make the payment, and we can ePay/et al. angryrobots has offered to send some cash- I'm almost in the "Be Home or Get Egged" time, and USPS still hasn't picked up the SAMart goodies yet, today..
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Oct 31, 2016 22:49
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angryrobots posted:I sent him $200 via w2w, still waiting to hear back that he picked it up. You got a paypal where we can send you money then?
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Oct 31, 2016 22:50
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He says wipers fixed, mileage/fuel consumption, oil consumption potentially fixed. On his way to pick up the money I think and then leaving Spokane towards Butte. I've let him know there's a contingent that wants him to turn back.
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Oct 31, 2016 22:55
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angryrobots posted:I sent him $200 via w2w, still waiting to hear back that he picked it up. I'm in for $20 to reimburse this beautiful bastard for the Keep 14 Alive fund. PM me PayPal info, angryrobots?
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Seat Safety Switch posted:He says wipers fixed, mileage/fuel consumption, oil consumption potentially fixed. Explain to him that ES is leaving and he'll be gone before 14" arrives.
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Oct 31, 2016 22:59
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Rhyno posted:Explain to him that ES is leaving and he'll be gone before 14" arrives. I had a thought on that: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3773374&pagenumber=21#post465946780 Edit: Seminal Flu posted:Is there a possibility of a plot twist, where 14 shows up after you've left to finish up and drive it home?
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I'll post PayPal up later, after confirmation he received the money. Also if you need further proof that God is against this, i somehow managed to lose my new sun/z87 safety glasses between my car and the Wal-Mart customer service desk. 
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angryrobots posted:Also if you need further proof that God is against this, i somehow managed to lose my new sun/z87 safety glasses between my car and the Wal-Mart customer service desk. You can't blame good taste on mythological things..
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Rhyno posted:Explain to him that ES is leaving and he'll be gone before 14" arrives. His care level remains minimal. Sims: do you have his phone number? Should text him if so. If not, let me know where to send it to you.
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West SAAB Story posted:You can't blame good taste on mythological things.. Eh? I have to wear safety glasses for work, so I found some decent ones. Anyway. 14 INCH JEEP posted:There I fixed it     14 INCH JEEP posted:today is charlies day. helter skelter, bitches  14 INCH JEEP posted:spokane was dry until jeep work started. all this came down last night and stopped when i stopped 
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angryrobots posted:Eh? I have to wear safety glasses for work, so I found some decent ones. Anyway. I was attempting to imply sarcasm due to the rather dark turn the thread was taken, but I guess my markup didn't work. Having your eyes is pretty nice. I reserve the right to tease anyone who wears gloves to change oil, however. Hope he's got the major stuff taken care of!
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Oct 31, 2016 23:23
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Yeah if you want to email me his number: Explodingsims2@gmail.com
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ExplodingSims posted:Yeah if you want to email me his number: It's done.
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