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What is YISUN?
Mother
A lie we tell ourselves to have a purpose
Bliss
A paradox with no solution
Father
A strong female protagonist
The weakest thing there is and the smallest crawling thing
Creator
Everything in this miserable and hellish existence
A solution with no paradoxes
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Malpais Legate
Oct 1, 2014

So, yeah. Everyone's an idiot and assumes Zoss accidentally handed off his Key of Kings to Allison instead of Zaid, but it was actually intentional, right?

I'm not missing something there?

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Malpais Legate posted:

So, yeah. Everyone's an idiot and assumes Zoss accidentally handed off his Key of Kings to Allison instead of Zaid, but it was actually intentional, right?

I'm not missing something there?

That seems to be the long and the short of it, yeah, though Incubus knows, Mottom knows, and Jadis almost certainly knows but was unable to properly communicate it.

Haystack
Jan 23, 2005





Poltergrift posted:

In the climactic battle, Zaid pits his Stand, 「L O R D S    O F    S U M M E R」, against Allison and 「S T.    A N G E R」.

Jojo's Divine Adventures

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Darth Walrus posted:

That seems to be the long and the short of it, yeah, though Incubus knows, Mottom knows, and Jadis almost certainly knows but was unable to properly communicate it.

I thought Mottom was of the camp that thought she was to transfer this key. Think back to "you're not looking for...a boy?" line.

But I have probably forgotten some other development.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I'll need to reread the arc, but her thinking that the key's meant for Zaid and her wanting to use and manipulate Allison aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!
It could also be the double-wraparound fakeout where it turns out Zaid actually is the Successor and Zoss is just helping Allison along to get the key to him, but that seems a little unlikely and a lot lame.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


And counter to the gender role theme already established in the book

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
zoss already called her alice , meaning he thinks her name is alice - un, which is a male title i think, so he might have hosed up at first but shes king now

Shalhavet
Dec 10, 2010

This post is terrible
Doctor Rope

violent sex idiot posted:

zoss already called her alice , meaning he thinks her name is alice - un, which is a male title i think, so he might have hosed up at first but shes king now

Her name is AL-YIS-UN, heir to the Conquering King, descendant of Ys-Aesma, second Furious Dumbass, and she has decided against being a noodle vendor.

Or maybe not.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight

Shalhavet posted:

Her name is AL-YIS-UN, heir to the Conquering King, descendant of Ys-Aesma, second Furious Dumbass, and she has decided against being a noodle vendor.

Or maybe not.

sure thats probably corresct, but that doesnt mean necessarily that zoss knows that

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
It's either the AL-YS-UN thing or that whoever translated the Prophecy of the Successor is a massive gently caress-up.

Or could be Elder Scrolls style where you can just go through the motions and vaguely fit into the prophecy's checklist of demands and have it work out for you.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.
Even if Zoss meant for Allison to transfer the key, it would only be proper in this setting for her to take the throne herself anyways.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


When Alison was repeating "The secret names and voices of god" her key flares, and do I see the first sputterings of a crown briefly forming above her head?

AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.


long down the road prediction: allison loses the key at some point, but it doesn't stop her

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

AriadneThread posted:

long down the road prediction: allison loses the key at some point, but it doesn't stop her

The true key was inside her all long.


I mean, Zoss jammed it pretty deep into her skull

is that good
Apr 14, 2012

battlerek posted:

So, if Mottom's method of immortality is the fruit, what of Solomon [...] ?[...]

Abaddon posted:

Without elaborating, because what fun would that be, I will say that Solomon’s method is super-juiced up martial arts and breathing exercises
I'm super pumped for Solomon to punch Allison in the diaphragm and accidentally unlock her ripple powers.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
lookin' good and feelin' fine confirmed

Pavlov
Oct 21, 2012

I've long been fascinated with how the alt-right develops elaborate and obscure dog whistles to try to communicate their meaning without having to say it out loud
Stepan Andreyevich Bandera being the most prominent example of that
I'll be honest, from the setting, I kind of expected martial arts and breathing exercises to be the 'standard' way of being immortal.

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Pavlov posted:

I'll be honest, from the setting, I kind of expected martial arts and breathing exercises to be the 'standard' way of being immortal.

They might be in Throne in general. Wouldn't put it past Maya to be using that method. It's just most of the 7 have weird bodies either due to circumstance, or species.

Mottom was probably just too messed up emotionally to Look Good and Feel Fine without peaches.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider



The thin white king :allears:

I desperately want this to be Allison's outfit all the time from now on.

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:
Those pants are right out of Jojos part 5 and I love them

Bell_
Sep 3, 2006

Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us

Autonomous Monster posted:



The thin white king :allears:

I desperately want this to be Allison's outfit all the time from now on.
Step aside, pops.

Poltergrift
Feb 16, 2014



"When I grow up, I'm gonna be a proper swordsman. One with clothes."

Autonomous Monster posted:



The thin white king :allears:

I desperately want this to be Allison's outfit all the time from now on.

Ten bucks says Allison's entire relationship with swords is "posing with them noncanonically," and she keeps on wielding the Blade of Want via not-sword things when swords are available.

"Grab tha a weapon and we'll flee this damnfool fortress!"

"Sword! No, too unwieldy. Other sword! Too short. Third sword! Probably cursed."

"Now!"

"Aha! Solid steel umbrella! GET hosed, MAMMON"

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
Beware the swordsman who needs no blade.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Bell_ posted:

Step aside, pops.

Good heavens! It's that awful velocipedemiurge!

Roger Explosion
Jan 26, 2006

THAT'S SPECTACULAR.

Autonomous Monster posted:



The thin white king :allears:

I desperately want this to be Allison's outfit all the time from now on.
She's going to need anime powers or something to actually draw that sword.

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Roger Explosion posted:

She's going to need anime powers or something to actually draw that sword.

She does have some kind of psychokinesis. Remember the needle and white chain?

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

violent sex idiot posted:

zoss already called her alice , meaning he thinks her name is alice - un, which is a male title i think, so he might have hosed up at first but shes king now

p sure all signs point to Zoss doesn't make mistakes

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Roger Explosion posted:

She's going to need anime powers or something to actually draw that sword.

Irl you'd have a retainer pull the scabbard off while you hold the weapon.

Also I can't tell if that's a different sword or if Abaddon just forgot to draw the secondary crossguard on Allison's zweihander.

Mr. Lobe posted:

She does have some kind of psychokinesis. Remember the needle and white chain?

Psychokinesis, aka "I can't read two panel motions"

Renaissance Robot fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Nov 2, 2016

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Roger Explosion posted:

She's going to need anime powers or something to actually draw that sword.

Now I wonder what kind of anime powers Abaddon has.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Roger Explosion posted:

She's going to need anime powers or something to actually draw that sword.

Good news!

No Pun Intended
Jul 23, 2007

DWARVEN SEX OFFENDER

ASK ME ABOUT TONING MY FINE ASS DWARVEN BOOTY BY RUNNING FROM THE COPS OUTSIDE THAT ELF KINDERGARTEN

BEHOLD THE DONG OF THE DWARVES! THE DWARVEN DONG IS COMING!

Schwarzwald posted:

Now I wonder what kind of anime powers Abaddon has.

I'm pretty sure his devil name ends in J. Joestar

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:

No Pun Intended posted:

I'm pretty sure his devil name ends in J. Joestar

J. Jonah Joestar, wielder of the stand [PAPARAZZI]

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Roger Explosion posted:

She's going to need anime powers or something to actually draw that sword.

Allison has super strength. She was effortlessly toting around that zweihander even during her initial freakout in Throne and accidentally punched a hole in a solid tile wall when she got back home.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Archenteron posted:

J. Jonah Joestar, wielder of the stand [PAPARAZZI]
I need pictures! Pictures of [ITSY BITSY SPIDER]!

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
A sheath is just a state of being. One does not draw the blade, merely dictate its sharpness. Or something.

Bell_
Sep 3, 2006

Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us

Poison Mushroom posted:

I need pictures! Pictures of [ITSY BITSY SPIDER]!
I hope this inspires some amazing art. It's already stolen away my heart.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Roger Explosion posted:

She's going to need anime powers or something to actually draw that sword.

You should probably start reading because having a zweihander is pretty low on the list of ridiculous things Allison has going on in her life right about now.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

What you actually have is the scabbard open part way from the top down so you can pull it out and turn it.

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Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Renaissance Robot posted:



Psychokinesis, aka "I can't read two panel motions"

how else do you interpret this?



she's sitting in both panels, and the needle is clearly out of arm's reach.

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