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Keith Atherton posted:My dad is still using his AOL account he created almost 20 years ago I'm still using mine that I created in 1993. People give me poo poo about it sometimes, but it's really convenient to always know your logon details for every pissant site you've ever registered to.
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JnnyThndrs posted:I'm still using mine that I created in 1993. People give me poo poo about it sometimes, but it's really convenient to always know your logon details for every pissant site you've ever registered to. I remember nightclubbing and exchanging MSN/ICQ deets was a normal thing as mobile phones were a luxury. I had a mobile phone and whatever year it was maybe 03 or 04, our national provider had unlimited MMS messages on New Years Eve...like gently caress if any of my friends had a phone that could receive them!
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Humphreys posted:I remember nightclubbing and exchanging MSN/ICQ deets was a normal thing as mobile phones were a luxury. I had a mobile phone and whatever year it was maybe 03 or 04, our national provider had unlimited MMS messages on New Years Eve...like gently caress if any of my friends had a phone that could receive them! When I started college in 2002 it was all about exchanging AIM screen names.
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My recollection from that era is that Americans largely used AIM and non-Americans largely used MSN and ICQ was well on its way out.
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BattleMaster posted:My recollection from that era is that Americans largely used AIM and non-Americans largely used MSN and ICQ was well on its way out. I used both in Australia but real life friends used MSN and people I knew online used AIM.
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Oct 30, 2016 01:53
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Intoluene posted:I used both in Australia but real life friends used MSN and people I knew online used AIM. Yeah I'm Canadian but same, because the people I knew online were all Americans. Metal Geir Skogul posted:Trillian master race. 
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:Trillian master race. Pidgin Uber Alles.
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:Trillian master race. Meebo united all peoples.
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BattleMaster posted:My recollection from that era is that Americans largely used AIM and non-Americans largely used MSN and ICQ was well on its way out. Everyone I knew in my high school (Washington state) used MSN circa 2003-2005, but once I hit college (New York state) everyone seemed to be using AOL. I assumed different regions sort of settled on one or the other based on whichever got critical mass first.
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Over in Aust it was either IRC channels or chat rooms followed by ICQ gaining popularity around 1999. ICQ was pretty big as people used their actual names and it was simple to search them. That "uh-oh" sound could be heard anywhere in the house. MSN became big by virtue of everyone having a Hotmail account and copies of XP so most swapped over to that. However barely anyone moved over to Skype as Facebook had taken over as the main chat platform.
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I remember ICQ being popular enough that I memorized my number and can still usually remember it to this day. At some point people moved to AIM and then some people were using MSN and it got dumb so yeah Trillian time. Years later I started frequenting IRC channels. These days I still leave trillian running, still sit on IRC, and also have LINE and Discord going. But hardly anyone talks to me, of course. I was pretty popular in the ICQ days, somehow. Uh-ohs goin off constantly. Sadly now ICQ is just like a Russian botnet or something.
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:Trillian master race. Trillion thumb drive install for maximum convenience on the go in the college lab.
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Adium was a lovely IM client. RIP all instant messengers.
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sinking belle posted:Adium was a lovely IM client. RIP all instant messengers. Adium was osx flavored trillian. I used both.
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I still use AIM and IRC. 
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If you want the 2016 macbook pro, USB adapters. No seriously, it doesn't have any loving traditional usb ports, just usb type C.
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treiz01 posted:If you want the 2016 macbook pro, USB adapters. No courage though.
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packetmantis posted:I still use AIM and IRC. I work for a large, global company and our division, in TYOOL 2016, uses AIM for quick messaging between people in different offices. 
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treiz01 posted:If you want the 2016 macbook pro, USB adapters. Holy poo poo, is the poison from the Mac HW thread leaking over here now. gently caress's sake.
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flosofl posted:Holy poo poo, is the poison from the Mac HW thread leaking over here now. I wonder if there was this kind of uproar when laptops switched to USB ports from like serial and ps/2 and the dozen other connectors people used to use  USB C is pretty awesome and any consolidation of multiple plugs into 1 type is good news in my book
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Kelp Me! posted:I wonder if there was this kind of uproar when laptops switched to USB ports from like serial and ps/2 and the dozen other connectors people used to use Yes, there was.
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Kelp Me! posted:I wonder if there was this kind of uproar when laptops switched to USB ports from like serial and ps/2 and the dozen other connectors people used to use No, because they still included the legacy ports for a while rather than completely cutting over to a standard that's still very much in its infancy  Like USB-C is cool and definitely the future of USB but I don't think I've ever seen a USB-C device in the wild except for maybe a few newer Android devices or stuff built exclusively for Macs. You'll pry my 2015 rMBP with my HDMI, USB and SD Card ports out of my cold, dead hands 
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Kelp Me! posted:I wonder if there was this kind of uproar when laptops switched to USB ports from like serial and ps/2 and the dozen other connectors people used to use No, there wasn't because it was much more gradual. USB started appearing on computers in the mid 90s well before USB peripherals were common or really even available, but it didn't replace the more common interfaces of the day. It's not like one day in 1996 laptops ditched the then common PS/2, serial, parallel and gaming ports in favor of USB A ports that pretty much nothing used. Geoj has a new favorite as of 00:53 on Nov 1, 2016 |
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Yeah PCs had vestigial serial and PS/2 ports for years after I had any devices that used them. I think it was just a few years ago that I finally replaced my last keyboard that had been rocking a USB/PS2 adapter.
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Geoj posted:No, there wasn't because it was much more gradual. USB started appearing on computers in the mid 90s well before USB peripherals were common or really even available. It's not like one day in 1996 laptops ditched the then common PS/2, serial, parallel and gaming ports in favor of USB A ports that pretty much nothing used. This, I don't think this is like when Apple ditched the floppy dive, which was on the way out already (I personally hadn't used a floppy in about a year when the first iMac started out).
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tbh I was really just making fun of the guy who came into the obsolete technology thread to bitch about the 2016 Macbook not having USB ports hth e: I was actually alive in the 90's too 
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I mean it's not like Apple has a history of forcing its consumers into using dumb-specific connectors like Lightning or the old iPod 30-pin or Thunderbolt (I know that's an Intel thing technically but when's the last time you saw someone use Thunderbolt on a PC) or anything, or retarded design choices in general, but that's a topic for a whole other thread 
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Oh it's a glorious nightmare when working in film/TV where anything and everything is thrown at you so you have bags filled with adapters. Thunderbolt wasn't fun as it wasn't PC compatible so you had no easy way to read a TB drive. Also iMacs slowly phasing out FireWire and CD drives made places where IT routinely updated systems a pain as you could not use old FW devices. The main issues I'm noting is that people are happy with USB getting faster and don't really care much for expensive Thunderbolt alternatives, plus that it's more available.
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Imagined posted:Yeah PCs had vestigial serial and PS/2 ports for years after I had any devices that used them. I think it was just a few years ago that I finally replaced my last keyboard that had been rocking a USB/PS2 adapter. I'm still using a PS/2 keyboard, I only upgraded the motherboard a few months ago and it still included the port so no adapter even needed. It's just a cheap Compaq-branded leftover from work, no mechanical switches or special features, but why replace something that works fine? And now Compaq doesn't exist either it's doubly-obsolete. (For completeness, I also have a wired Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0, but that uses USB.) Since I'm here, does anyone recognise this bit of ancient technology? I found it in a cabinet at a local high school which identified it as 'ferrite-core memory', but I've never been able to find anything online with a similar upright design. I apparently didn't take any photos showing the whole thing or any sense of scale, but IIRC the whole thing was about a foot each way, pins maybe a centimetre high, with the connectors along the edges just visible there. 
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uvar posted:Since I'm here, does anyone recognise this bit of ancient technology? I found it in a cabinet at a local high school which identified it as 'ferrite-core memory', but I've never been able to find anything online with a similar upright design. I apparently didn't take any photos showing the whole thing or any sense of scale, but IIRC the whole thing was about a foot each way, pins maybe a centimetre high, with the connectors along the edges just visible there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interface_Message_Processor Core memory I've seen has ferrite beads at the intersections instead of pins.  E: Added link and RFC number Proteus Jones has a new favorite as of 03:05 on Nov 1, 2016 |
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flosofl posted:That looks more like a wire wrap board where the intersecting current will "activate" a specific pin. Kind of like the original IMPs (aka RFC 1) BBN created when arpanet was being built. Read Where Wizards Stay Up Late if you can find it. Yeah, core memory always has beads or rings at each intersection because that's where the memory happens. At first I thought that might be plated-wire memory instead, but it doesn't look like the examples I've seen of that either. We don't use core memory tech anymore, because it was destructive readout, if you accessed the data the act of accessing the data erased it, so any instructions had better write the data back in (usually from a different, nondestructive source) if you still needed it. It was pretty fast for the time though.
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uvar posted:I'm still using a PS/2 keyboard, I only upgraded the motherboard a few months ago and it still included the port so no adapter even needed. It's just a cheap Compaq-branded leftover from work, no mechanical switches or special features, but why replace something that works fine? And now Compaq doesn't exist either it's doubly-obsolete. (For completeness, I also have a wired Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0, but that uses USB.) I mean, i think you could make a ferrite core memory that didn't use toroidal cores, but it wouldn't work nearly as well for a bunch of reasons. However, could this be an early example of machine-assembled core memory? The earliest core memory was literally sewn together by hand under magnification before it was automated. Could this have been an attempt at automating assembly of core memory before someone figured out how to make a machine that could effectively thread the increasingly-small toroids by using simpler cylindrical ferrites instead?
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One of those nerd traps where you have an infinite grid of 1 ohm resistors and you need the resistance between two points?
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Slanderer posted:I mean, i think you could make a ferrite core memory that didn't use toroidal cores, but it wouldn't work nearly as well for a bunch of reasons. However, could this be an early example of machine-assembled core memory? The earliest core memory was literally sewn together by hand under magnification before it was automated. Could this have been an attempt at automating assembly of core memory before someone figured out how to make a machine that could effectively thread the increasingly-small toroids by using simpler cylindrical ferrites instead? Found a weird page that has a few pics of the same type of memory: http://www.cs.sun.ac.za/museum/memory.html    this might be ferrite "rod memory". Specifically, these promotional images for NCR's rod memory look very similar. However, I can''t find any images of actual hardware. It may have been used in their NCR Century 100 computer.
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Slanderer posted:Found a weird page that has a few pics of the same type of memory: I think you've got it - amazing! In hindsight, 'rod memory' is a pretty obvious name, too. Based on your hints I had a bit of a search myself, and the NCR Century 100 Reference Manual (with image on the front cover) is on archive.org: https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_ncrcenturyr7902Century100Feb70_7709934 Better yet, there's a description of the "short-rod storage" memory system design and function a few pages in!  (My memory was a little off though - the rods are .11" high, a third of what I guessed)
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Of course! Ferrite rods! No wonder I didn't recognize it, only NCR made those.
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That is really wild. I have never heard of ferrite rod memory before. Very cool find.
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Shadowbox that sucker, put it on the wall, and bet all visitors a dollar they don't know what it is. (Wow, that is one cool artifact.)
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