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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:Of course, I was more thinking aloud about what could be considered the "definitive" version of a given game. Archiving is the easy part. The community tends to gravitate towards specific versions, like the last HL1 version before Steam integration, or v1.16 vs v.1.32 of Quake 3.
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Sentient Data posted:what about online-only games? Collectors will just buy the empty box of the first release that's been filled with some pieces of cardboard and shrink-wrapped so it looks mint. For archival purposes if we can save all youtubes, we'll be able to recreate all aspects of playing WoW and TF2. Hopefully we'll have developed a cure for autism by then so literally no-one will want to actually play on-line-only games.
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The first MMO I ever played was called Underlight. I was 12 years old at the time. I only played for the 30 day trial because I couldn't afford a subscription. It was very confusing and the community seemed to revolve more explicitly around role-playing than the grindfests that came after it. It was significant because it was the origin of the online handle that I've used for the last 13 years. I looked it up and apparently it's still online. Maybe I'll try to log in for an epic nostalgia blast. 
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Oct 31, 2016 13:16
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Anony Mouse posted:
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Oct 31, 2016 13:25
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It’s probably filled with weirdos now. Who am I kidding—it was always filled with weirdos.
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Oct 31, 2016 13:28
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Poser porn: the game
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I do like that Underlight knows exactly what it is and runs with it.Underlight's Splash Page posted:Old Style Graphics!
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Oct 31, 2016 16:41
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Try playing Asheron's Call today and see if it's still fun.
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Skoll posted:Try playing Asheron's Call today and see if it's still fun. My friend went back to FFXI during one of their "We still exist" free weekends a while back. It's as hilariously terrible as it's always been.
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Neito posted:My friend went back to FFXI during one of their "We still exist" free weekends a while back. FFXIV is actually fun though, and would be really great if its design wasn't hamstrung from the beginning by needing to run cross-platform on PS3.
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Imagined posted:FFXIV is actually fun though, and would be really great if its design wasn't hamstrung from the beginning by needing to run cross-platform on PS3. The only thing that hamstrung FFXIV is the pre-A Realm Reborn version of the game.
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Nov 1, 2016 03:05
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Neito posted:The only thing that hamstrung FFXIV is the pre-A Realm Reborn version of the game. I didn't play that version. I did play the version with loading screens about every twenty feet, on PC...
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Nov 1, 2016 03:27
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Imagined posted:FFXIV is actually fun though, and would be really great if its design wasn't hamstrung from the beginning by needing to run cross-platform on PS3. They're ending ps3 support with the next update.
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Nov 1, 2016 03:59
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Imagined posted:I didn't play that version. I did play the version with loading screens about every twenty feet, on PC... Try not playing on any computer with a hamster wheel in it? I played it for a couple years and never had that issue.
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Neito posted:Try not playing on any computer with a hamster wheel in it? I played it for a couple years and never had that issue. you're in the tech relics thread telling people their poo poo is too old? aren't you a special little snowflake.
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Recently got another Apple IIc, this time in much better shape, and with the original monitor: It had some pretty bad yellowing, so I decided to attempt the process here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO4mjEasdTM All you need is some of this: (hydrogen peroxide cream aka "Developer", available on Amazon or a beauty supply store), sunlight, and plastic wrap!  Apply liberally to part, cover with plastic wrap (to prevent the creme from drying), and set out in the sun for a few hours until it reaches the desired state. The results where impressive to say the least.   Both parts only needed about 5-6 hours of sun exposure to reach that state. I also tried using a UV light. While this worked, it took over 12 hours to achieve the same result as 4-6 hours of direct sunlight.
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EVIL NOONER posted:you're in the tech relics thread telling people their poo poo is too old? aren't you a special little snowflake. We agree on something!
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Skoll posted:We agree on something! we both like star wars too, i just like it in a much better way than you
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EVIL NOONER posted:we both like star wars too, i just like it in a much better way than you It will really grind your gears to hear I like the EU more than TFA.
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Skoll posted:It will really grind your gears to hear I like the EU more than TFA. ? I have like every eu book made until like 2008
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EVIL NOONER posted:? I have like every eu book made until like 2008 The Vong war was a mistake.
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stevewm posted:Recently got another Apple IIc, this time in much better shape, and with the original monitor: edit: the hell am I thinking, does it even have a hard drive? I used to have an all-in-one Brother word processor (daisy wheel printer taking up most of the space) a long time ago, and to this day when I write it's with one of those full screen editors which I try to get to be just the right shade of yellow to match the old monitor built into it.
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stevewm posted:Recently got another Apple IIc, this time in much better shape, and with the original monitor: So so jealous. Also nice job on the whitening! I need to do that to my C-64s.
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Skoll posted:The Vong war was a mistake.
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stevewm posted:All you need is some of this: (hydrogen peroxide cream aka "Developer", available on Amazon or a beauty supply store), sunlight, and plastic wrap! A---an actual lifehack?  e: For people with no life, such as myself.
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Yeah, it works really amazingly well. Some people are concerned that it's going to slightly weaken the plastic, but I think as long as it's non-structural and not under any significant load, who cares?
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There is also a DIY recipe called retrobrite that will deyellow old plastic cases. http://www.heypoorplayer.com/2016/03/30/how-to-whiten-your-old-consoles-with-retrobrite-gel/ Problem is the cases can keep yellowing though I think there is a UV coating you can apply to protect them in the future.
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It's pretty much the same thing, the important parts are oxygen and UV light. And yeah, it will not stop any further yellowing.
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doctorfrog posted:Of all things, how does it sound? Fan blowing (if it needs one at all), hard drive making those old school hard drive sounds, keyboard clickin' away.. No fans, it is totally silent except for when the floppy drive is accessing... No hardrive.. Awesome clicky keyboard though! I am working on making it a wireless Apple IIc by adding a bluetooth serial module to it. There is a java app called ADTPro that allows quick transfer of floppy images via serial to the IIc and other Apple II machines. This will make it very easy to transfer software.
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No fan, no hard drive  I had a //c Plus, same thing except with a futuristic 3.5" floppy (which we all thought was one of those cool new "hard disk" things we were hearing about, I mean look at it, it's got a hard shell! It's not floppy at all!) E:fb
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my turn in the barrel posted:There is also a DIY recipe called retrobrite that will deyellow old plastic cases. The developer cream is basically Retrobrite in a bottle. You need to add nothing more to it, and it is inexpensive. ($6.99 USD on Amazon). Some people on various vintage computing forums have discovered the yellowing is not 100% caused by UV as previously thought. Temperature seems to play a role as well. Some have had their de-yellowed cases go right back to yellow in short order. Hopefully mine doesn't.
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Data Graham posted:No fan, no hard drive I kept every floppy disk from my younger days. I have cases of 5.25" and 3.5" disks from the mid nineties. The school system I went to had standardized on Apple II's. Every classroom had 1-2. So it was the first computer I ever used.
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Yeah we had IIc's in elementary/middle school. I remember being really confused when none of the DOS commands I knew worked on the non-HDD-equipped school computers. Just that blue screen with the text prompt. Could you actually do anything on that screen? How did it pop up without a hard drive? So many memories of playing Marble Madness, Rastan, Thexder and 3D Mini-golf. They had trackballs too which was great for golf and MM. I don't remember what they upgraded to, except that they used those CDs that were embedded in plastic trays like bigass floppy disks, and someone in the IT department managed to install Civilization 1 on all of them. Good times.
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Kelp Me! posted:Yeah we had IIc's in elementary/middle school. I remember being really confused when none of the DOS commands I knew worked on the non-HDD-equipped school computers. Just that blue screen with the text prompt. I have a floppy with "Apple IIc Diagnostics" running on it in that picture  Using ADTPro I've written a bunch of old games to floppies.
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Wait no, they were IIGSes, not IIcs. Still pretty great though. e: good times https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0N9bSR-zJs holy poo poo Rastan looked really good for a game from 1990 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iVu2GqrQJg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5X4eHmOtiM The music from Zany Golf is embedded in my brain forever 
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get you some oregon trail, boy
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EVIL NOONER posted:get you some oregon trail, boy I'll admit that was the first floppy image I transferred over. Then proceeded to play it for almost an hour.
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Nov 1, 2016 14:57
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Man, the IIgs was fuckin' legit.
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That was the forgotten section of the Software Etc. where I worked. One little shelf with Deluxe Paint II and a few other titles that no one was ever going to buy. 
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