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So playing Builders has gotten my nostalgia going pretty hard. What would be considered the ideal Dragon Quest if I just wanted to play one of them? Only one I ever put serious time into was Dragon Warrior 3 on the GBC which I absolutely loved back in the day.
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Nov 1, 2016 00:39
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tweet my meat posted:So playing Builders has gotten my nostalgia going pretty hard. What would be considered the ideal Dragon Quest if I just wanted to play one of them? Only one I ever put serious time into was Dragon Warrior 3 on the GBC which I absolutely loved back in the day. I haven't played all of the main series or the DS versions of IV and V, but you can't go wrong with III-V. If you want to replay III, find yourself the SNES version; its presentation is gorgeous for a 16-bit era game, which is amazing considering how low-tech the series was from I-V. I remember loving VIII back in the day, too, but you'll probably want to play the PS2 version if you want the ideal experience with that one.
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Nov 1, 2016 00:52
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tweet my meat posted:So playing Builders has gotten my nostalgia going pretty hard. What would be considered the ideal Dragon Quest if I just wanted to play one of them? Only one I ever put serious time into was Dragon Warrior 3 on the GBC which I absolutely loved back in the day. i played V this year and its really really good, not too long, and the monster collection aspect gives a lot of depth without the complication of some of the later games' systems. the DS port looks great too. the story is a really cool epic of this family over 3 generations. it was a good game to get back into the series with for me having only played them way back when they came out.
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Nov 1, 2016 00:55
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Can't go wrong with either V or VIII. I finished the last island of VII but just got tired of it and haven't picked it up since.
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Nov 1, 2016 02:10
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If you do play V, get the DS port, because they added a "joke" waifu that is secretly the best waifu.
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Nov 1, 2016 03:34
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I made a Bashmobile course in Builders, if you'd like something other than dirt huts and huge cubes in your share zones. VcdBDSJDE Start at the checkers and go towards the Idols. It's a little tricky to do a lap without crashing, but it's doable!
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Nov 1, 2016 04:23
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rhoga posted:I made a Bashmobile course in Builders, if you'd like something other than dirt huts and huge cubes in your share zones. This is amazing
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Nov 1, 2016 04:50
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tweet my meat posted:So playing Builders has gotten my nostalgia going pretty hard. What would be considered the ideal Dragon Quest if I just wanted to play one of them? Only one I ever put serious time into was Dragon Warrior 3 on the GBC which I absolutely loved back in the day. Generally I see people saying V is the best. And yeah that is quite possibly true. If VIII had an actual HD release somewhere I'd say that might edge it out via presentation. But V has a story line far better and more "personal" than most JRPGs and plays solid.
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Nov 1, 2016 09:27
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What's with the yoy-yoy-yoying in Alena's chapter? Is that a russian thing?
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Nov 1, 2016 09:34
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FanaticalMilk posted:That doesn't give me a whole lot of hope for the 3DS version. I don't know much about phone specs, but I would imagine the 7+ is probably beefier than what's in the New 3DS. DQ8 runs poorly because it's running in Unity for some reason and Unity always has issues even when it seems like it shouldn't. The 3DS is a more direct port and while it has unavoidable visual downgrades it's otherwise the definitive version.
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Nov 1, 2016 09:35
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Even though the intro to dq7 still took over an hour real time, it was way better than the ps1 version. The old tablet dungeon was such a pain in the rear end to get in and out of a zillion times.
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Nov 1, 2016 12:40
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:DQ8 runs poorly because it's running in Unity for some reason and Unity always has issues even when it seems like it shouldn't. Are they adding anything to the 3ds version? 'Cause otherwise I think I would rather play the emulated PS2 version in HD, it being the one game in the series that doesn't have its best version on a handheld.
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Nov 1, 2016 14:56
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Hakkesshu posted:Are they adding anything to the 3ds version? 'Cause otherwise I think I would rather play the emulated PS2 version in HD, it being the one game in the series that doesn't have its best version on a handheld. Two new playable characters (Morrie and Red, which isn't much of a spoiler given they were in preview videos, but some people prefer not to know). Not sure what else.
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Nov 1, 2016 15:22
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Prism posted:Two new playable characters (Morrie and Red, which isn't much of a spoiler given they were in preview videos, but some people prefer not to know). Not sure what else. Pretty sure there's a new ending too, although I don't know what it is or what you have to do to get it.
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Nov 1, 2016 15:26
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Also monsters on the field instead of random encounters like DQ7 3DS.
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Nov 1, 2016 15:46
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how do they handle the extra party members in 8? do the people not in the party get exp or do you have to grind up everyone the hard way?
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Nov 1, 2016 15:58
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Eopia posted:Pretty sure there's a new ending too, although I don't know what it is or what you have to do to get it. The new ending has you marry Jessica at the end instead.
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Nov 1, 2016 16:13
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Mr. Fortitude posted:The new ending has you marry Jessica at the end instead.
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Nov 1, 2016 16:57
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Mr. Fortitude posted:The new ending has you marry Jessica at the end instead. Hahaha, that's so loving random. Did they ever even have a scene of them talking in the original?
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Nov 1, 2016 18:29
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As much as people hype the PS2 version of VIII emulated in HD the actual experience--and this applies to all emulated games--is not as sharp as you see in screenshots. You're constantly going between what you see in good looking screenshots and then oh no some texture somewhere is glitching out, some effect was not at all emulated properly in hardware render so you need to swap to software if you want it but software sucks graphically, all cutscenes look like garbage, all menus look like garbage, in-battle messages look like garbage, etc. As for playing on an actual PS2 it's at least widescreen so it has that going for it, but unless you still have an SDTV it's not going to look so hot there either. Component cables don't help much either. I still enjoy emulating it for crisp character models and buildings, which all look excellent and never glitch out, but the 3DS version is definitely going to be the definitive experience just for being clean and unified throughout.
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Nov 1, 2016 18:39
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Hyedum posted:Hahaha, that's so loving random. Did they ever even have a scene of them talking in the original? I never beat VIII but I do remember a scene after you free her from being possessed. I got spoiled on that new thing from looking up gameplay videos of the 3DS version so beware.
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Nov 1, 2016 18:45
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Mr. Fortitude posted:The new ending has you marry Jessica at the end instead. fuckin sold
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Nov 1, 2016 18:47
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That sounds awful actually
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Nov 1, 2016 18:53
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it is optional, so who cares? but if they were gonna do one, they should have included options for the rest. yangus is mai waifu.
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Nov 1, 2016 19:22
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Hyedum posted:Hahaha, that's so loving random. Did they ever even have a scene of them talking in the original? The 3DS version adds new scenes where you talk with her and if you pick the right options throughout the game , you get that ending instead.
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Nov 1, 2016 20:03
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Holy poo poo, I just learned how badly they butchered the music in non-Japanese DQVII  Why on earth did they use the MIDI versions?!
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Nov 1, 2016 21:36
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Kikka posted:Holy poo poo, I just learned how badly they butchered the music in non-Japanese DQVII We don't know, but licensing issues are suspected. They didn't even just "use the MIDI versions", they made entirely new MIDI versions which was altogether more work than just using the orchestrated that was already there. When asked about that in an interview they dodged answering why they replaced it and instead just stuttered through saying "well, most people don't notice the difference in sound quality between modern MIDI and orchestrated and it's easy to make". I guess it's possible they thought the translated question was "how" rather than "why" given that can be the same phrase in japanese, but the nervousness felt telling. DQVIII is also confirmed to not use the orchestrated tracks for the west, ironically, though I think it at least sounds better than the phone MIDI or the japanese PS2 MIDI.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:37
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Decus posted:DQVIII is also confirmed to not use the orchestrated tracks for the west, ironically, though I think it at least sounds better than the phone MIDI or the japanese PS2 MIDI. Fffffuck, has it really been confirmed?  That's an huge disappointment for me, the orchestral music was such an awesome part of the experience.How would it be a licensing issue though? I mean, don't they own the rights to their own music?
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Nov 1, 2016 22:47
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They don't. The original composer does and he's both a huge copyright fiend and a really fickle guy who doesn't really like other people arranging his music and doesn't seem to like using non-sequenced music in games to begin with, so if he decides he no longer likes a certain version of his music he can make it extremely difficult to use. He's also a far-right war revisionist who publicly denies war atrocities commited by Japan in WW2 but that's fine because he's really old and will be dead before long.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:56
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Awesome Welles posted:Fffffuck, has it really been confirmed? Because Japanese developers suck at future-proofing, so the rights to the music are probably owned by the recording studio or the orchestra itself.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:57
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Holy poo poo gently caress the time loop island.
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Nov 1, 2016 23:06
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:They don't. The original composer does and he's both a huge copyright fiend and a really fickle guy who doesn't really like other people arranging his music and doesn't seem to like using non-sequenced music in games to begin with, so if he decides he no longer likes a certain version of his music he can make it extremely difficult to use. how come we never learn the artistic is actually a secret philanthropist
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Nov 2, 2016 00:48
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:They don't. The original composer does and he's both a huge copyright fiend and a really fickle guy who doesn't really like other people arranging his music and doesn't seem to like using non-sequenced music in games to begin with, so if he decides he no longer likes a certain version of his music he can make it extremely difficult to use.  God drat, didn't know that, thanks
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Nov 2, 2016 00:59
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I'm not terribly surprised that people who work on Dragon Quest are extremely conservative
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Nov 2, 2016 03:10
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:They don't. The original composer does and he's both a huge copyright fiend and a really fickle guy who doesn't really like other people arranging his music and doesn't seem to like using non-sequenced music in games to begin with, so if he decides he no longer likes a certain version of his music he can make it extremely difficult to use. Japanese people live to be 200 years old actually
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Nov 2, 2016 03:22
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Mr. Fortitude posted:The 3DS version adds new scenes where you talk with her and if you pick the right options throughout the game , you get that ending instead. Are they on a dialogue wheel too? If so, I'm naming the hero Shepard and picking the all the renegade options that let me punch Charmles in the face.
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Nov 2, 2016 03:31
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Tired Moritz posted:What's with the yoy-yoy-yoying in Alena's chapter? Is that a russian thing? Alena is a California valleygirl raised in Russia.
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Nov 2, 2016 03:44
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In my opinion it was a huge oversight to not add Trode as a party member to the remake, if only for the potential for oodles of doofy gag battle animations.
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Nov 2, 2016 03:46
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precision posted:Holy poo poo gently caress the time loop island.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:45
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I don't get it, what's so bad about it? Did you guys end up redoing everything like eight times or something?
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Nov 2, 2016 06:52
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