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DaveWoo posted:The thing is, though, they'd have to prove that Comey was acting with deliberate intent to sway the election, as opposed to just being extremely careless.
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Captain Invictus posted:I wonder if they'll actually go after him for it though. Hopefully! Naked, wholly biased abuse of power like that shouldn't be condoned, and not punishing him for it just encourages future abuse.
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Samuel Clemens posted:https://twitter.com/JeffersonObama/status/793574975877767168
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dwarf74 posted:Something is hosed up here. I think these are not all national polls.
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Nessus posted:I believe they are all national polls, although some of them predate Emailghazi III: Beyond Comeydome What polls have we seen that actually showed a strong negative reaction to Comey? Not much more than the NC outlier, no?
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Nessus posted:I believe they are all national polls, although some of them predate Emailghazi III: Beyond Comeydome A week ago might as well be a month ago. So yeah, weird to call it 11/1 6pm numbers.
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Endorph posted:I don't think it's more white people voting dropping the black share down. It's more hispanic people voting. Also, reports from strategists suggest that Clinton is not doing enough to engage with black voters. While other demographics may be a factor some of this probably can be attributed to insufficient action by the campaign. https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/793607304981598209
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theflyingorc posted:What polls have we seen that actually showed a strong negative reaction to Comey?
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Captain Invictus posted:I feel like it could be a pretty easy argument for them if Comey has had a good track record, and he's the leader of the FBI, extreme carelessness in a position like that SHOULD be punishable. The FBI, NSA, and CIA are always revolving in who gets the scorn for a few years. Back when Y'all Qaeda was happening, a lot of people were saying stuff about how the FBI has had a better track record than the CIA; just faint praise acknowledging that they basically hadn't been caught with their pants around their ankles frequently. Comey is obviously changing that. The right wing bubble has come to the same conclusion that he's a loving clown, it's just that their algebra included some false flag nonsense.
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Pakled posted:They have been slowly moving R over the last few decades. They used to be an impregnable Dem stronghold, but the Republicans embracing white identity politics has moved it closer towards the center. If the DFL can hold the governorship in 2018 I would say Minnesota is good through 2030.
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Phone posted:The FBI, NSA, and CIA are always revolving in who gets the scorn for a few years. Back when Y'all Qaeda was happening, a lot of people were saying stuff about how the FBI has had a better track record than the CIA; just faint praise acknowledging that they basically hadn't been caught with their pants around their ankles frequently. Really? What was the reaction to the newset file dump by the FBI in right wing circles?
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BigRed0427 posted:Really? What was the reaction to the newset file dump by the FBI in right wing circles?
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Noctone posted:It's blatantly obvious that he's violating the Hatch Act but prosecuting him for it would probably be exceedingly difficult. Oh, and this is the loving thing that is REALLY killing us, rotting our collective brain from the inside. Used to be, when considering an action like this, even a ruthless politician would come think "This is illegal. We can't do it," because he would understand that the law was put in place for a reason, and probably have a good idea of the context in which that law came to pass. But now, it's "This is illegal. Who's going to come after me and what penalty can they inflict?" with no consideration whatsoever for either the deeper reason for why you (or indeed anybody) should not do this thing, or for the fact that if you in fact do this thing, you are part of that rot that ultimately kills all all empires, the rot from within.
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Nessus posted:I think other than that NC one there has not been a major move of the needle for or against abeula, but it may have riled up the deplorables and possibly led to some Johnson voters to get on the Trump Train Which polls, though. Point to them. There was a drop from 2 weeks ago to Friday, but which polls show a drop from Friday to now?
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Duscat posted:Used to be, when considering an action like this, even a ruthless politician would come think "This is illegal. We can't do it," because he would understand that the law was put in place for a reason, and probably have a good idea of the context in which that law came to pass.
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nachos posted:lol what the gently caress is this new FBI release Wait what now?
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BigRed0427 posted:Really? What was the reaction to the newset file dump by the FBI in right wing circles? I just read Alex Jones' Twitter feed and now I am drunk please send help. (seriously, he's posting about how Clinton is telling Democratic voters to riot I don't have any examples off hand because I try to not stare into the void for too long.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Wait what now? http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/01/politics/fbi-clinton-marc-rich-investigation/index.html
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Wait what now? https://twitter.com/FBIRecordsVault?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw FBI records vault twitter account dumped a bunch of FOIA requests.
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Endorph posted:it never used to be this Feels like a pretty bad slip since the days of J Edgar Hoover at least. Are there examples of the 3 letter agencies playing politics as bad since then?
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Tricky D posted:https://twitter.com/FBIRecordsVault?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw I don't even think it was that, they tweeted about it without a FOIA request.
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theflyingorc posted:Which polls, though. Point to them. Other than the tracking polls, there haven't really been many regularly reporting polls to see if Comey had any effect. There is the NBC/SM poll that saw no change post Comey, and overall no change in the last week, but it's also shown no reaction to most events that caused polls to shift (conventions, pneumoniagate, pussygate, and the first debate).
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Captain Invictus posted:I wonder if they'll actually go after him for it though. Hopefully! Naked, wholly biased abuse of power like that shouldn't be condoned, and not punishing him for it just encourages future abuse. How would they prove a violation of the Hatch Act and not just Comey being an idiot though? That he might have carried a grudge due to Bill's last minute pardon of someone would be hosed up if true, but it's all speculation currently. The Hatch Act seems like one of those things that you'd need a video confession to actually prosecute without it looking like the party in power going after political opponents. With any luck he'll be told "resign or be fired" during the lame duck. Tom Guycot posted:Hey he can bill it as the TRUE state of the union addresses from the REAL president, not that phony one the (((globalists))) put into fake power. I want Donald Trump to give the GOP's response to Hillary Clinton's SOTU so badly.
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nachos posted:http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/01/politics/fbi-clinton-marc-rich-investigation/index.html The most concerning detail: quote:Prior to Sunday, the account hadn't tweeted since October 2015. A law enforcement official told CNN that the Twitter account is an automatic feed and the tweets are not done manually. The official said the feed was down for a year until Sunday, when it was fixed and then began tweeting automatically.
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Ogmius815 posted:Well this was a lovely day for polls. ...? which ones
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TyrantWD posted:Other than the tracking polls, there haven't really been many regularly reporting polls to see if Comey had any effect. There is the NBC/SM poll that saw no change post Comey, and overall no change in the last week, but it's also shown no reaction to most events that caused polls to shift (conventions, pneumoniagate, pussygate, and the first debate). Probably no enthusiasm screen, just "do you intend to vote" & "have you voted before" questions.
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Supercar Gautier posted:Except for GBV and DEVO Cedar Point? Skyline Chili? Um... Cedar Point?
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CapnAndy posted:In all seriousness the "wrestling fans are rednecks" stereotype is seriously out of date. The Venn diagram between "comic book nerds" and "pro wrestling fans" is very close to being a single circle, and these days that includes the wrestlers too, who can be hilarious dorks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdCRrOF7ghg And from the world of MMA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MmTk2Gbl2E
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Pastrymancy posted:Also, reports from strategists suggest that Clinton is not doing enough to engage with black voters. While other demographics may be a factor some of this probably can be attributed to insufficient action by the campaign. I'm still skeptical about this kind of talk. I remember hearing that AA turnout was expected to dip back down to 2000-2004 levels again, and we all know how that turned out.
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Phone posted:I don't even think it was that, they tweeted about it without a FOIA request. The stated purpose of the twitter account is to publicly release FOIA requests. The massive dump today suggests that they have been sitting on a bunch of them for a while. I have no doubt that that the timing and order of the tweets were politically motivated, but I still think that they represent actual FOIA requests.
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Tempest_56 posted:I'm still skeptical about this kind of talk. I remember hearing that AA turnout was expected to dip back down to 2000-2004 levels again, and we all know how that turned out. 2008 and 2012 were record levels of turnout for obvious reasons, but I don't like that Team Clinton isn't partnering with local groups as much as they could be!
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Skyline Chili? You should look up what the word redeem means. 
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