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greatn posted:The universe won't collapse. It's going to keep accelerating apart until all matter disintegrates. Pfft, I'm a Big Crunch kind of guy, take your Big Rip and stick a finger in a pie is what I say!
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:We are long overdue for a Trumpian meltdown and I expect at least one more before election day.
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AriadneThread posted:so they don't even have to keep coming up with different, increasingly petty reasons for impeachment? they could just vote on the same charge over and over? As absurd as that sounds, with the supreme court in quasi-partisan deadlock there isn't really anything to stop them either way. Tricky D fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Nov 2, 2016 |
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If the Democrats can't retake the Senate, we are better off having Trump burn everything to the ground immediately, rather than wading through 4 years of Chaffetz and Gowdy driven poo poo before a polished GOP turd comes in and burns everything to the ground.
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Rookersh posted:I would love if the GOP impeached Clinton, she gracefully stepped down, and then we had President Kaine. I don't want a woman who has worked so hard, gone through so much poo poo, and is the first and so far only female president ever to step down and have to take that poo poo on top of everything else.
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theflyingorc posted:ok, so I'm trying to understand the senate race Yup, that's a good understanding of the situation. Throw North Carolina into the possible pickup pile, too, the Dem challenger is polling lower than the Republican incumbent, but only by about 1%, so GOTV could make the difference there.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Pfft, I'm a Big Crunch kind of guy, take your Big Rip and stick a finger in a pie is what I say! Why am I not surprised your opinions on physics are as wrong as everything else
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TyrantWD posted:If the Democrats can't retake the Senate, we are better off having Trump burn everything to the ground immediately, rather than wading through 4 years of Chaffetz and Gowdy driven poo poo before a polished GOP turd comes in and burns everything to the ground. Ah yes the totally sane and rational philosophy of accelerationism, it's about that time again.
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speng31b posted:Ah yes the totally sane and rational philosophy of accelerationism, it's about that time again. i see you've met tyrantWD, he's sort of an idiot
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TyrantWD posted:If the Democrats can't retake the Senate, we are better off having Trump burn everything to the ground immediately, rather than wading through 4 years of Chaffetz and Gowdy driven poo poo before a polished GOP turd comes in and burns everything to the ground. No.
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TyrantWD posted:If the Democrats can't retake the Senate, we are better off having Trump burn everything to the ground immediately, rather than wading through 4 years of Chaffetz and Gowdy driven poo poo before a polished GOP turd comes in and burns everything to the ground. Accelerationism is not the answer. Just ask a typical Muslim or hispanic or African-American whether they'd rather have 4 years of Trump or 4 years of Hillary with a red Senate.
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TyrantWD posted:If the Democrats can't retake the Senate, we are better off having Trump burn everything to the ground immediately, rather than wading through 4 years of Chaffetz and Gowdy driven poo poo before a polished GOP turd comes in and burns everything to the ground.
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In lighter news, this warm up for Hillary's appearance inf Ft. Lauderdale is amazingly goofy: https://twitter.com/BBCRajiniV/status/793604534786527237?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Pfft, I'm a Big Crunch kind of guy, take your Big Rip and stick a finger in a pie is what I say! the universe is the fart of god, actually
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meristem posted:I'm not sure this is going to happen, to be honest. Trump's gotten a huge list of people to scam out of this election, and that's got to count for something with him. (Funnily how in the end he turns out to be just like a generic Republican presidential candidate in this regard.) A meltdown at this point would have to be generated by Clinton, by calling him out. USPol goonies, please accept that there is no sex tape coming, there is no meltdown coming. Trump has no debates coming up, has no use for media interviews other than O'Reilly, Hannity or Fox & Friends morning show -- meaning we're not going to be getting some major Trump soundbite. He's going to be going to rallies so that he can continue to repeat his lines about rigged elections and Crooked Hillary and emails. Hillary will continue to dominate the news, which is bad for her. Even if it's news about Comey getting poo poo on, it's still Hillary related and Hillary being in the news is not good for her. This is the state of the election for the next eight days. Deal with it.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:This is the state of the election for the next eight days. Deal with it. 6 days bro not counting election day
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rscott posted:Why? She doesn't need amnesty for anything I know that, but it would stop every single republican fishing expedition in its tracks. Amnesty doesn't require admission of guilt as far as I know. Instead of a few months or years of the FBI dicking around followed by a Comey press conference everything would be "Was that before Jan 19th 2017? Yes? No case can be made so an investigation will not be opened nor will any subpoenas be issued"
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/02/us/politics/black-turnout-falls-in-early-voting-boding-ill-for-hillary-clinton.htmlquote:Some black voters, like Ronald Brooks, said they simply needed more time to make a decision this year. It was just easier, Mr. Brooks said, in 2008 and 2012, when he had voted for Mr. Obama. ok who the gently caress sees the GOP systematically trying to cut off their access to government and even considers rewarding their presidential nominee with their vote (this is specifically in the county in NC where ~94% of the early voting locations were closed because the GOP decided it had too many
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:USPol goonies, please accept that there is no sex tape coming, there is no meltdown coming. Trump has no debates coming up, has no use for media interviews other than O'Reilly, Hannity or Fox & Friends morning show -- meaning we're not going to be getting some major Trump soundbite. He's going to be going to rallies so that he can continue to repeat his lines about rigged elections and Crooked Hillary and emails. Would you like to make a prediction
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Sky Shadowing posted:Are... are the GOP idiots? Moving to impeach HRC would be a catastrophe for them, especially since around 1/2 the Senate, at least, will be Democrats who will just use the opportunity to rail against the GOP publicly for their petty partisanship. People who vote Republican reward Republicans for being incredibly huge shitheads, and if they do it far enough away from an election (ie more than 1 week away), everyone else forgets they ever did anything. See how not confirming Garland has had zero negative repercussions for any Republicans.
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TyrantWD posted:If the Democrats can't retake the Senate, we are better off having Trump burn everything to the ground immediately, rather than wading through 4 years of Chaffetz and Gowdy driven poo poo before a polished GOP turd comes in and burns everything to the ground. EDIT: This is not to say that I agree with accelerationism, but I think people are underestimating how terrible it will be if Hillary wins but doesn't get the Senate. Inferior Third Season fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Nov 2, 2016 |
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speng31b posted:Ah yes the totally sane and rational philosophy of accelerationism, it's about that time again. Trumpism is going to be back in 2020, just under someone who is less of an idiot. The GOP losing the Supreme Court is probably the only thing that will force some change as a bunch of their pet issues will no longer be on the table. With Hillary in the WH and a GOP Senate, you are just postponing the inevitable.
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Shifty Pony posted:I want Trollbama to make one last appearance on Jan 19th and give HRC a blanket amnesty for everything before that date.
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Inferior Third Season posted:Yeah, this is the thing people don't seem to get. This election only has one thing at stake: the Supreme Court. And for the Democrats, this means needing both the presidency and the Senate. The presidency alone does nothing, and it is difficult to see 2020 going much better for Hillary than this round after four years of investigations and impeachments and not being able to achieve anything on her agenda. Donald Trump 2016: gently caress It, The Age Of Man Is Over, It Is The Fire's Turn (Credit to Owen Ellickson who really needs to find investors in a radio play)
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I'd like the discuss the poll aggregators for a moment: On the one hand, the Daily Kos/PEC/Upshot models seem to be working off the assumption that Clinton's been up all year, there are 7 days left, she's probably going to win. Is that why their numbers for Clinton are so high even when things are tight? Whereas the 538 seems vastly more swingy--Nate likes to talk about undecideds and such. Is that really why his model is so different or is something else going on? Did he simply include a higher "uncertainty" factor than everyone else?
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TyrantWD posted:Trumpism is going to be back in 2020, just under someone who is less of an idiot. The GOP losing the Supreme Court is probably the only thing that will force some change as a bunch of their pet issues will no longer be on the table. With Hillary in the WH and a GOP Senate, you are just postponing the inevitable. Meh, people will want it, but the GOP establishment might either return Super Delgates to control it or people will vote it in, the world ends, and I laugh on a pile of corposes.
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TyrantWD posted:Trumpism is going to be back in 2020, just under someone who is less of an idiot. The GOP losing the Supreme Court is probably the only thing that will force some change as a bunch of their pet issues will no longer be on the table. With Hillary in the WH and a GOP Senate, you are just postponing the inevitable. What is your proposed solution?
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Inferior Third Season posted:Yeah, this is the thing people don't seem to get. This election only has one thing at stake: the Supreme Court. JFC. You get four years of internal and foreign policy by the candidate who wins. Supreme court rulings not that loving important if all arable land is radioactive waste.
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I'd still say that having a Dem president is preferable to having GoP control of all three branches. Sure the SCOTUS can get shittier if we lose RBG and can't replace her, but you still got to mitigate your losses as best as possible. EDIT: I'd also like to point out that the current demographic situation for the GoP makes the likely hood of them winning any future presidential elections pretty loving grim unless they can manage the fabled 'hispanic outreach.' Tricky D fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Nov 2, 2016 |
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So way back in the Oct thread there was a discussion of Prohibition and there was one thing forgotten, the Womens Christian Temperance League was insturmental in getting Prohibition in the minds of Americans, but it was the Anti-Saloon League that made Prohibition happen. They took the single issue of banning booze and pushed it through to get it passed. Mostly though the leadership of Wayne Wheeler the ASL got congressmen who were from rural and southern areas on their side, either by appealing to their morality or straight up threatening their positions. They were very much like the Tea Party of their day, and honestly, I feel like the ASL is the model that all future single issue right wing groups have modeled themselves off of. Anyways, I work a grocery store so I see all the tabloids and holy poo poo the Enquirer is hilarious. It's been nothing but the crazies anti-hillary stuff for ages. It's all "Hillary's secret kill list!' "Hillary's personal Hitman tells all!" "Trump tape faked!: We show the evidence!" "Inside how HIllary is faking the polls to say she's winning" "Emails prove Hillary Did Benghazi/9/11/Pearl Harbour/Lusitania/Shot Huey Long" and then "12 ways Trump will fix America!" "Trump already has a plan to defeat ISIS!" "100 people Trump will find and arrest to end BLM riots!" and so on.
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Pakled posted:Accelerationism is not the answer. Just ask a typical Muslim or hispanic or African-American whether they'd rather have 4 years of Trump or 4 years of Hillary with a red Senate. And what happens to them in 2020 when you have a President Hillary whose only record involves countless investigations, and the GOP nominee is not setting themselves on fire every other morning? Hillary has it relatively easy with a lot of the GOP donor network, including the Kochs, sitting this election out. That's going to be the case in 4 years.
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Inferior Third Season posted:Yeah, this is the thing people don't seem to get. This election only has one thing at stake: the Supreme Court. And for the Democrats, this means needing both the presidency and the Senate. The presidency alone does nothing, and it is difficult to see 2020 going much better for Hillary than this round after four years of investigations and impeachments and not being able to achieve anything on her agenda. I get what you mean, but I'm not going to call "keeping a Republican out of the presidency" nothing.
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/02/us/politics/black-turnout-falls-in-early-voting-boding-ill-for-hillary-clinton.html GOD DAMMIT She took E-mails from that server and turned them over to the State Department! ARGHGGHGHGHGHHHH i really, really wish the E-mails hadn't been deleted
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hey guys if you are still being all arzy think about this The cubs guys the cubs
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Would you like to make a prediction A prediction of what? Nothing that I said is meant to be a statement on the final result of the election. It's stating the obvious. People here repeatedly post about hoping for the mythical meltdown or Trump tape that will be the final nail in the coffin. And for what? It's dumb. But do go on, post about the lawsuit alleging he raped a underage girl, or those tweets about him being taped at a Russian orgy, it's going to destroy his campaign!!!!!
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Should I start arzying yet the polls are looking slightly better for trump
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theflyingorc posted:GOD DAMMIT Even if they hadn't been there'd be something else.
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porfiria posted:Did he simply include a higher "uncertainty" factor than everyone else?
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Inferior Third Season posted:Yeah, this is the thing people don't seem to get. This election only has one thing at stake: the Supreme Court. And for the Democrats, this means needing both the presidency and the Senate. It's unlikely that McConnell is going to be able to keep his party 100% in sufficient lockstep to not vote on a SCOTUS nominee for four whole years.
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TyrantWD posted:And what happens to them in 2020 when you have a President Hillary whose only record involves countless investigations, and the GOP nominee is not setting themselves on fire every other morning? She wins reelection because the GOP is fundamentally incapable of fielding a Presidential candidate.
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