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Forgall
Oct 16, 2012

by Azathoth
They got a thread about recent cop shooting and they just keep going with blaming "Obama and his minions" and "BLM/NAACP/CAIR/La Raza/whodafukcares".

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Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

MattD1zzl3 posted:

you still have a thing pr two to learn about its motivation.

Well if anyone would know...

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug
The problem is that telling daily douchebags to gently caress off accomplishes nothing except making the thread harder to read.
If the moderators don't ban racists then it wont change. Everything else (including this comment) is positive reinforcement to them.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

Ogmius815 posted:

Yes I too agree that this forum should be nothing but a constant witch hunt to exclude people that disagree with us. That's exactly the sort of moderation this forum could use.

:ok:

Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

We don't need a new douchebag until Thursday, don't skip in line

But we used to have all kinds of horrible racists in this forum. Many, many more than we have now. But we didn't need moderators to ban them, we just drove them off by making them look like idiots. That;s half the fun of posting in D&D, seeing which libertarian/closet white supremacist/tankie might stop by today.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Apraxin posted:

https://twitter.com/KNXCooper/status/793931635662041089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
I would not like to be a news editor having to decide right the gently caress now whether to run with this or not.

How many of those journalists are actually from a major network or even an affiliate?

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

MattD1zzl3 posted:

You really must be confusing me with someone else. Im no 4channer or redditor, i dont enjoy outrage or shock "humor".

While i respect beyond measure your knowlage of the effects and methods of racism, you still have a thing pr two to learn about its motivation.

You are welcome in any space i am on TB. Youre good people.

You have said racist poo poo to me multiple times. I would love to know just what precisely the gently caress you mean about racism's "motivation."

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.


I miss the days when Dilbro's insanity was funny rather than outright horrible.

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

I'm sick of this thread's Daily Douchebag. We have way too many people posting the most vile dehumanizing poo poo and then trying to join in a conversation about polling numbers like nothing happened. He gets to pretend he's not trash because people let him.

If this was a truly just world, a murderdrone would have already killed him

Sadly it is not :saddowns:

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Ogmius815 posted:

But we used to have all kinds of horrible racists in this forum. Many, many more than we have now. But we didn't need moderators to ban them, we just drove them off by making them look like idiots. That;s half the fun of posting in D&D, seeing which libertarian/closet white supremacist/tankie might stop by today.

Do you have any idea how lovely and patronizing this sounds?

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

Agrajag posted:

i refuse to show empathy for those that show none to others and think being a racist sexist rear end in a top hat is a virtue

I think this is one of the very few actual cases of Political Correctness Gone Mad (ie "you hypocrites aren't showing empathy towards Trump voters! Shameful! Both sides are to blame, the truth is in the middle!" :argh:).

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Nessus posted:

Yeah, it's not a good look. The optics are terrible.

I only care about two things, saying loose when you mean lose and using the term n***********r.

Neither should be acceptable in polite company

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

MattD1zzl3 posted:

You really must be confusing me with someone else. Im no 4channer or redditor, i dont enjoy outrage or shock "humor".

While i respect beyond measure your knowlage of the effects and methods of racism in ways i could never understand, you still have a thing or two to learn about its motivation and variety.

You are welcome in any space i am in TB. Youre good people.

gently caress off racist rear end in a top hat.

Trilas
Sep 16, 2004

Ogmius815 posted:

Yes I too agree that this forum should be nothing but a constant witch hunt to exclude people that disagree with us. That's exactly the sort of moderation this forum could use.

There's a big difference between witch hunt for person who disagrees with the thread's [supposed] hive mind and bigots filing in one at a time and double, triple, whatevering down on racism before getting probated (for too short a time and not quickly enough).

Sandeep
Mar 27, 2002

I should be working on Summoner 3 instead of engaging in political discussions

Covok posted:

I don't know if this is the right place to ask or the right time and, if it isn't, redirect me, but I'm thinking for running for the mayor's office in my village. Anything I should know?

Don't make an ice themed amusement park.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Covok posted:

I don't know if this is the right place to ask or the right time and, if it isn't, redirect me, but I'm thinking for running for the mayor's office in my village. Anything I should know?

Probably wrong time. We've had political insider/campaign threads before, and there's a handful of experienced people on the forums.

After the election you should definitely create a thread.

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

Fojar38 posted:

I will continue to say nothingburger because its addition to political lexicon, along with "ratfucking", is one of the few positives to come from this election.
"Ratfucking" has been with us for decades.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

computer parts posted:

It's just really strange to hear unironic crab mentality here.

Turns out you don't even need the Got Mine for FYGM to take effect. See: any working-class Republican.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Oh hey I was gone a few hours what did I miss
Nothing? More racism. Cool.



Ogmius815 posted:

But we used to have all kinds of horrible racists in this forum. Many, many more than we have now. But we didn't need moderators to ban them, we just drove them off by making them look like idiots. That;s half the fun of posting in D&D, seeing which libertarian/closet white supremacist/tankie might stop by today.

Hahaha no. They were purged after toxing for McCain, Romney and getting banned in other parts of the forums.

But nice try apologist

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Trilas posted:

There's a big difference between witch hunt for person who disagrees with the thread's [supposed] hive mind and bigots filing in one at a time and double, triple, whatevering down on racism before getting probated (for too short a time and not quickly enough).

They usually don't get probated, anyone who makes the mistake of admitting they're a POC and then arguing with them gets probated. Like within the next 24 hours I'll have a probate or ban for this poo poo and MattyD and his Ku Klux Kru won't.

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

A Winner is Jew posted:

So what if she carried the three most populous states (two of which consistently democrat) and all but 2 important swing states.

She's bad.

to be fair, the AP did call the primary for hillary and she gave a victory speech the night before the california primary, which probably influenced the california primary results.

but otherwise yeah that's a really good point.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Covok posted:

I don't know if this is the right place to ask or the right time and, if it isn't, redirect me, but I'm thinking for running for the mayor's office in my village. Anything I should know?

That's cool as poo poo, tell us more about this

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
USPOL NOV: Ill have a Nothingburger with Arzy sauce and corn cob on the side.

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Teriyaki Koinku posted:

I think this is one of the very few actual cases of Political Correctness Gone Mad (ie "you hypocrites aren't showing empathy towards Trump voters! Shameful! Both sides are to blame, the truth is in the middle!" :argh:).
It's entirely possible to show empathy for people whose political opinions you abhor.
In fact, it's where you actually strongly need empathy in the first place.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Covok posted:

I don't know if this is the right place to ask or the right time and, if it isn't, redirect me, but I'm thinking for running for the mayor's office in my village. Anything I should know?

Watch out for competition from a dog, 6 year old, or house plant. The news loves those things.

The Insect Court
Nov 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

ImpAtom posted:

Sander's base is at best very similar to Clinton and you can make enthusiasm arguments but taking for granted that Sanders would have the exact same enthusiasm as Clinton is unjustified. He might have more support among millennials and less among older voters or done more poorly with black voters or a lot of other things that are plausible but unprovable because Bernie Sanders was not the candidate and we can only make assumptions.

The idea that the (tied for) least popular politician in America is doing exactly as well as the most popular politician in America would have done in her place is batty. Yes, it's a counterfactual, but so is insisting that while the rollout of your new 'asphalt and dead skunk' flavored ice cream has gone poorly, strawberry ice cream wouldn't have sold any better.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
For a spray primer, can I just pick up a can of Krylon or the like at Home Depot, or should I go with something specifically for models like Army Painter or Citadel?

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Stultus Maximus posted:

Watch out for competition from a dog, 6 year old, or house plant. The news loves those things.

Secretly negotiate for a charismatic dog, 6 year old, or house plant to run against you and then concede and throw their supporters to you.

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Is their a live stream for the accuser

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

The Insect Court posted:

The idea that the (tied for) least popular politician in America is doing exactly as well as the most popular politician in America would have done in her place is batty. Yes, it's a counterfactual, but so is insisting that while the rollout of your new 'asphalt and dead skunk' flavored ice cream has gone poorly, strawberry ice cream wouldn't have sold any better.
Not sure if I'm reading you correctly, but Clinton's favourables aren't particularly bad. She's at like 45%.

Supraluminal
Feb 17, 2012

Craptacular! posted:

Immigration is like my one right-wing position and I was totally on board with Sanders and with Obama (who I think has handled it extremely well by raiding agriculture records and taking away the ability for undocumented people to earn a living.) In general, socialist-lefty people know that socialism can't sustain itself with a huge influx of needy people vastly outnumbering the number of people who are going to support them.

The enemy is corporate-friendly candidates like Clinton, who threatens to make Obamacare subsidies part of CIR; and George W, who spun tales about poor companies looking for legal laborers and accidentally hiring illegal immigrants and needing an eVerify system to confirm their status.

So what's your response to this type of perspective on immigration: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/immigrants-are-keeping-america-young-and-the-economy-growing/

I can imagine that there may be a hypothetical maximum rate of immigration that would overwhelm the country's capacity to absorb it if we just totally opened the borders... but I don't know that anyone has come remotely close to putting a well-informed number on that, and as a general rule, it seems like most economists and other experts are of the opinion that immigration is a net positive. The fact that it's forestalling the demographic emergency of our aging population seems especially compelling to me. And, frankly, I think it's just the right thing to do from a moral perspective to allow in as many people as we can feasibly handle. (It's either that or everyone who's not a descendant of the various indigenous American peoples should gently caress off out of North and South America.)

Obviously we do need to do a better job of supporting workers who are displaced by trends in immigration, trade, technology, and so on, but I think addressing that challenge head-on is the right path, not attempting to strictly limit immigration just because that's simpler.

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!
For the record i do not think any race is inferior biologically or culturally than any other race. This does not matter to either you or i and does nothing to further our discussion of US Politics. But i ignored the first two "call outs" of this and i wasnt prepared to accept a third.

If you feel like talking about this ill spring for platinum and not clog the thread. Poking the hornets nest gets expensive and i havent recovered from my mod stalker Fans wiping out my account last time.

MattD1zzl3 fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Nov 2, 2016

Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



Guy Goodbody posted:

For a spray primer, can I just pick up a can of Krylon or the like at Home Depot, or should I go with something specifically for models like Army Painter or Citadel?

Wrong thread? :v:

I like Krylon flat white for my needs.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
Unfavorability pretty much directly correlates with notoriety. This was a race between two of the most famous nominees we've ever had.

DICKS FOR DINNER
Sep 6, 2008

Stand Proud

Ogmius815 posted:

But we used to have all kinds of horrible racists in this forum. Many, many more than we have now. But we didn't need moderators to ban them, we just drove them off by making them look like idiots. That;s half the fun of posting in D&D, seeing which libertarian/closet white supremacist/tankie might stop by today.

It could only ever be fun to run racists out on a rail if you're a white dude approaching it like a game as opposed to a PoC to whom this is just a regular, tiring facet of life. Also, they all consider themselves master loving trolls so trying to shame them out of the thread does jack and poo poo. Probations/bans are the only thing that could stop them and when that doesn't happen they are free to just constantly jump in and try to poo poo up the thread.

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/793936316262219776

Lisa Bloom just said her client was "living in fear" and did not want to show her face and ended the press conference.

welp

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

Teriyaki Koinku posted:

I think this is one of the very few actual cases of Political Correctness Gone Mad (ie "you hypocrites aren't showing empathy towards Trump voters! Shameful! Both sides are to blame, the truth is in the middle!" :argh:).

I used to feel condescending pity for some conservatives for not realizing they're loving themselves. Now I feel that anyone who will vote for Trump knowing full well how terrible he is, deserves to be grifted in the worst way.

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

Cingulate posted:

It's entirely possible to show empathy for people whose political opinions you abhor.
In fact, it's where you actually strongly need empathy in the first place.

Oh no, I can empathize with the disadvantages of being born in rural Bumfuck, Nowhere, getting a poor/stunting education and struggling for lack of jobs/mental health issues in places without adequate resources/drug abuse/etc.

I still think they're pieces of poo poo for throwing their hopes and dreams behind and find their political voice in a vile bigot and misogynist when they have choices of who to vote for, though.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

MattD1zzl3 posted:

For the record i do not think any race is inferior biologically or culturally than any other race. This does not matter to either you or i and does nothing to further our discussion of US Politics. But i ignored the first two "call outs" of this and i wasnt prepared to accept a third.

If you feel like talking about this ill spring for platinum and not clog the thread. Poking the hornets nest gets expensive and i havent recovered from my mod stalker Fans wiping out my account last time.

A Winner is Jew posted:

gently caress off racist rear end in a top hat.

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Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Sinners Sandwich posted:

Is their a live stream for the accuser

Whoa I don't think America's at the point we'll drown Trump's accusers yet.

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