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Cingulate posted:Not sure if I'm reading you correctly, but Clinton's favourables aren't particularly bad. She's at like 45%. quote:Registered voters see Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in a nearly identical negative light, mirroring a persistently close split in overall vote preference in a new Washington Post-ABC News Tracking Poll. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ing-poll-finds/ http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/yougov-economist-26618
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Ogmius815 posted:No loving way. Too much. I won't believe this until a real news source is reporting it. The article posted:The Democratic Coalition Against Trump reported [...] Rep. Chaffetz lists his personal Gmail address on business cards brandished with the Congressional seal.
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canepazzo posted:https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/793936316262219776 That loving sucks Edit: I'm guessing her client was ready to do this and had an attack right before the conference and decided against this. I'd hate to be in that building right now
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Pyrolocutus posted:Wrong thread? I didn't intend to post it in this thread, but it got an answer so maybe it was the right thread all along
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I know I'm late to "will Hillary run in 2020?" chat but my big fear is that Bill dies in the next two odd years and she just says gently caress it and peaces out. 
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canepazzo posted:https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/793936316262219776 
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:Whoa I don't think America's at the point we'll drown Trump's accusers yet. What about when he's president?
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:They usually don't get probated, anyone who makes the mistake of admitting they're a POC and then arguing with them gets probated. Like within the next 24 hours I'll have a probate or ban for this poo poo and MattyD and his Ku Klux Kru won't. Ugh, yeah. As someone who reads most of this thread but is more often than not 10+ pages behind, I'll frequently find myself thinking "how the gently caress is this person still allowed to post this poo poo," 10 pages into some /pol/ jackass's time here, knowing there's probably 10+ more to go before it stops, and getting disheartened as gently caress when I see good posters with probated avatar pics. I don't have that bird .gif from a while ago handy, but I'll just voice my support for KoalasMarch for mod. I raise one of my mom's Olivia Pope wine glasses to you in salute.
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The Insect Court posted:The idea that the (tied for) least popular politician in America is doing exactly as well as the most popular politician in America would have done in her place is batty. Yes, it's a counterfactual, but so is insisting that while the rollout of your new 'asphalt and dead skunk' flavored ice cream has gone poorly, strawberry ice cream wouldn't have sold any better. It's not so far-fetched when you consider the idea that Bernie wouldn't have the same favorables if he'd won the nomination. Neither Hillary nor Republicans ever really brought out the big guns against Sanders, because he never really stood a chance of winning. Hillary had no reason to antagonize him, so her primary campaign treated him with kid gloves. Republicans saw more benefit in driving a wedge in the Democratic party so they never attacked him as much as they could have either, and in some cases even complimented him (see Trump during the debates) It's the same reason Kasich has high favorables, nobody ever really attacked him because he was never going to win.
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Deified Data posted:Without daily douchebags the thread instantly reverts to a circular firing squad and gets a lot more tedious to read, so as far as I'm concerned keep 'em coming. Yeah but people like you and I (i.e. white guys) aren't the ones who have to deal with that sort of douchebags all day every day, then come into the thread and see basically the same douchebags.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:What about when he's president? ....so, never?
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Agrajag posted:i refuse to show empathy for those that show none to others and think being a racist sexist rear end in a top hat is a virtue That is, these are real people with real concerns for their future, and if the only time they're mentioned is as the butt of a joke on TV, why would they want to be part of that? I held some pretty lovely views as a kid and I wasn't willing to listen to opposing viewpoints until someone engaged me respectfully. Otherwise I might have lived in that narrow-minded bubble. We want them to change, so why shouldn't we make the effort?
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Moatman posted:Yeah but people like you and I (i.e. white guys) aren't the ones who have to deal with that sort of douchebags all day every day, then come into the thread and see basically the same douchebags. https://vine.co/v/Ouug2zWXAlg
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Oh no, I can empathize with the disadvantages of being born in rural Bumfuck, Nowhere, getting a poor/stunting education and struggling for lack of jobs/mental health issues in places without adequate resources/drug abuse/etc. The Insect Court posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ing-poll-finds/ She was at 45 before. Yeah, that's pretty unfavourable right now.
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Lightning Knight posted:I know I'm late to "will Hillary run in 2020?" chat but my big fear is that Bill dies in the next two odd years and she just says gently caress it and peaces out.
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Donkwich posted:Turns out you don't even need the Got Mine for FYGM to take effect. See: any working-class Republican. Kind of. I look at wealth redistribution as similar to any other resource: the entire world can't live as well as Americans do, and to try to accommodate them means Americans will have to make do with less. I am completely down with hoarding our nation's good things to build the best society we can and being FYGM to the rest of the world outside our borders. I'm not against any and all immigration, but undocumented immigration is almost always poor and uneducated and is going to cost our own poor in lowering the standard share of benefits for them before it harms the wealthy.
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Instant Sunrise posted:to be fair, the AP did call the primary for hillary and she gave a victory speech the night before the california primary, which probably influenced the california primary results. The Democratic primary ended Super Tuesday.
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I live in Bumfuck, Nowhere surrounded by Trump voters, and I have no empathy for them. My neighbors are white trash (gasp racism)
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Nonsense posted:As long as the president can accomplish a lot with a 50-50 that's better than losing it. I fear the GOP is going to take the Obama strategy to 11 with her administration though, just outright idiotic obstinate governing ahead. The GOP will have a willing partner in the White House for the first time in years.
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The Insect Court posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ing-poll-finds/ As usual: quote:One particular group where Clinton saw a drop-off in favorability was among white men. In mid-October, 32 percent were favorable of the former secretary of state while 67 percent were unfavorable, but negative ratings have ticked up to 74 percent while positive marks are down to 24 percent. Trump's ratings stayed pretty stable among this group since earlier this month, standing at 45 percent today compared with 43 percent following the final presidential debate.
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Eugene V. Dabs posted:Wonder how many Republicans are going to donate to fix the Church to show "bipartisanship" and "solidarity" Actually, no
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Agrajag posted:i refuse to show empathy for those that show none to others and think being a racist sexist rear end in a top hat is a virtue This, there's no excuse for backing the guy even if he was a saint to women and not a racist and you're basing it on policies alone. 1) Trump is a real estate developer who benefits from things like "pro business" tax handouts, adverse usage of eminent domain, and international labor arbitrage. Arguing that poor rural economically disenfranchised whites are voting for him as a reaction to how economic globalization and free trade gutted their communities is accepting, then, that they are too stupid to recognize that the guy whose name was associated with buildings, casinos staffed by immigrants, and faux-luxury clothing/accessories/knick-knacks has an interest in promoting a free trade system which makes those faux-luxury products cheaper to produce, those buildings more profitable, and those casinos more likely to draw immigrant labor for wage-depressing salaries. 2) If they're somehow instead supposed to be aware of the root causes of their pain and simply voting for the guy because he says he'll take actions detrimental to practically all aspects of his business operations, then they're cognizant of his headline plan for mass deportations and a Berlin-style border wall and at best consider it fair collateral damage. 3) If they believe free trade agreements depress wages and promote offshore labor, then it would follow that they're aware that those agreements mean lower costs of production for retail goods manufactured elsewhere. Knowing that, they accept that an increase in retail prices is acceptable collateral damage for bringing manufacturing back onshore, and would presumably accept an increase in the minimum wage but they do not, as Trump has publicly opposed a MW hike and has opined that maybe it should be lower. Basically, all that policy poo poo makes no sense unless your motivation lies in getting rid of non-white people, building a wall, and then adopting religious discrimination as government directive.
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FactsAreUseless posted:You think Hillary "I WILL be President" Clinton would turn down the chance at a second term? If my longtime spouse and partner died while I was in high office I wouldn't be overly keen to keep dealing with all the bullshit. I guess she's more motivated than me tho. 
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Wyld Thang posted:The GOP will have a willing partner in the White House for the first time in years. I don't think it's prudent to serve takes at this temperature, you're likely to face civil liability.
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KittenofDoom posted:Eh while it's true that many of them are racist scum, from a practical standpoint wouldn't it be worthwhile to engage their concerns to prevent them from turning further away from the political mainstream? I do hope that Dems can message well enough to engage with legitimate concerns of white working class voters and prevent them for falling for xenophobic demagoguery. But a lot of Trump's base is unsalvageable and it's a wasted effort to try and reason with them.
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Craptacular! posted:Kind of. I look at wealth redistribution as similar to any other resource: the entire world can't live as well as Americans do, and to try to accommodate them means Americans will have to make do with less. I am completely down with hoarding our nation's good things to build the best society we can and being FYGM to the rest of the world outside our borders. Hoooooooooooly poo poo you're scum.
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Wyld Thang posted:The GOP will have a willing partner in the White House for the first time in years. Why would Hillary be a willing partner?
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Lightning Knight posted:I know I'm late to "will Hillary run in 2020?" chat but my big fear is that Bill dies in the next two odd years and she just says gently caress it and peaces out. Bill's doing great healthwise as far as I've seen. He had some heart trouble a few years ago but changed up his diet and hasn't had any trouble since. Anyway, I think the deathbed entreaty of either one of them would be for the surviving spouse to continue on their work. Power couples don't play around.
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canepazzo posted:https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/793936316262219776 Well then why even set all that up?
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Charlz Guybon posted:Anything from the last 10 hours that I should be aryzing over? The woman who is accusing Trump of raping her when she was 13 announced she was going to hold a press conference, but then decided not to at the last minute
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Charlz Guybon posted:Anything from the last 10 hours that I should be aryzing over? White men don't like Hillary as much.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Why would Hillary be a willing partner? Something something nafta
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Craptacular! posted:Kind of. I look at wealth redistribution as similar to any other resource: the entire world can't live as well as Americans do, and to try to accommodate them means Americans will have to make do with less. I am completely down with hoarding our nation's good things to build the best society we can and being FYGM to the rest of the world outside our borders. So many of our nation's good things don't belong to us though. We took them from other people.
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spacetoaster posted:Well then why even set all that up? More than likely she was up for it this morning, and then received thousands of death threats
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