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Attestant posted:Blue Magic, and the characters that were clearly left terrible because they might get the skill school eventually. For example: Quistis, Kimahri, Quina, and also all of their weapons that have +Mag regardless of their actual casting abilities. It's seems like they've been future proofing them for blue magic from the start. I look forward to crafting specific "container" spheres and having to go get that character hit by them in order to learn it. Also probably having to get hit by it multiple times to actually apply the hones, or some poo poo.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:It also appears on a really solid OSBfest banner, if it isn't replaced in global! I have no idea what any of those relics are. edit: oh wait I recognize Sun Blade and Lightbringer, that's it.
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Nov 2, 2016 23:37
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bilperkins2 posted:I have no idea what any of those relics are. Aside from WoL's BSB and Ovelia's SSB, all of them are straight transliterations. Educate yo'self
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bilperkins2 posted:I have no idea what any of those relics are. In order: Hope OSB (1x4000 potency ST overflow holy/non magic damage) Warrior of Light BSB (8x81 potency ST holy/non physical damage, enHoly, burst mode; 2x65 potency AOE holy/non physical damage, self DEF+50%; 1-5x48 potency ST holy/non physical damage, hits based on DEF) Celes BSB Firion BSB Cid Raines SSB (5x284 potency AOE holy magical damage, imperil holy) Gordon SSB (AOE ATK/MAG +30%, physical blink 1) Garland SSB (4x195 potency RT dark physical damage, heals user for 50% of damage dealt) Ovelia SSB (AOE h85 cure + magic blink 1) Gabranth SB It's basically the Holy banner, plus Garland and Gabranth for some reason.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/learn-katakana/ Do not learn katakana or encourage people to learn katakana jesus christ. I learned it and I've been a self-loathing mess ever since.
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Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:Do not learn katakana or encourage people to learn katakana jesus christ. I learned it and I've been a self-loathing mess ever since.  I'm JLPT N4 and I have no loving clue what you're saying here
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It's a joke. Mostly. Real answer is I studied and can read kana and it mostly serves as a shameful reminder that I couldn't hack it and quit. It's come in handy, a little, but it's not particularly worth the effort. IMO anyway.
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Nov 3, 2016 00:08
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I can read Katakana and Ee-Ga-Ru-Ta-Ro means nothing to me. Even if i could parse that into Eagle Talon like they meant, since that relic isn't available in Global I have no idea what it is.
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Nov 3, 2016 00:10
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bilperkins2 posted:I can read Katakana and Ee-Ga-Ru-Ta-Ro means nothing to me. Even if i could parse that into Eagle Talon like they meant, since that relic isn't available in Global I have no idea what it is. It says "Eagle Claw" my dude.
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Nov 3, 2016 00:15
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It's at the top of the banner and has a little inset that says "overflow" in katakana, and has a picture of Hope, so I figured that was pretty self explanatory if you can read it! Hell, even if not, since it's all color coded. My mistake, I'll avoid posting japanese banner stuff in here without translations in the future.
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Nov 3, 2016 00:26
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:It's at the top of the banner and has a little inset that says "overflow" in katakana, and has a picture of Hope, so I figured that was pretty self explanatory if you can read it! Hell, even if not, since it's all color coded. Sorry I don't mean to be an rear end but for the most part, I don't think people here know the relics from Japan and while an OSB is pretty much going to be the same (do a lot of damage), the BSB's and SSB's vary wildly in effects, so an untranslated banner with no info about any of the relics is going to mean jack to most here. Bland posted:It says "Eagle Claw" my dude. My katakana is super rusty also
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Or instead of carrying on about it you could just ask "hey what's that item" or y'know just read the list another poster had already helpfully provided before you started getting all "I know Japanese and it still didn't make any sense to me".
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Zurai posted:Or instead of carrying on about it you could just ask "hey what's that item" or y'know just read the list another poster had already helpfully provided before you started getting all "I know Japanese and it still didn't make any sense to me". Sorry, I'm just reacting to "why don't you just learn Japanese?"
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I'm obviously not suggesting anyone learn Japanese  That's a years-long endeavor. I was suggesting learning a specific character set for reading foreign words that doesn't require any study of grammar, vocab, or kanji, since that character set is disproportionately represented in video games and takes a couple afternoons max to learn if you set aside some time for it. I understand it was a smug thing to post, but "lol I don't understand any of this" on a color-coded banner with only two relics not in global on it...
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bilperkins2 posted:Sorry, I'm just reacting to "why don't you just learn Japanese?" Because a lot of people don't have that kind of time and effort?  But in all seriousness, if you intend to go to X Country, learning to read and speak the language at minimum is a good idea.
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As expected, the second wave of triple broken characters arrives tomorrow. This group is all the primary female characters in games (for games like VI and XIII it becomes secondary females). Maria is about to become even stronger 
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KnoxZone posted:As expected, the second wave of triple broken characters arrives tomorrow. This group is all the primary female characters in games (for games like VI and XIII it becomes secondary females). Makes me sad that I've pretty much given up on the U+ for this current event. Even with decent synergy and soul breaks, I just don't feel like I have to hones to go the distance, and it doesn't help that I don't have the durations of some of these defensive effects memorized, so they end up lapsing and someone dies. Or everyone gets hit with Slowga and then get torn apart at the boss's leisure since I have no native Hastega and bringing a RW Hastega means forgoing SG/Stoneskin. And I don't have the patience to Hit and Run to build up Soul Break charges (doesn't help that one time I tried this, the boss still managed to get off a spell that left my healer near dead before I fled the fight). What's the next event after this one? Hopefully it won't be as insanely overtuned as this one.
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W.T. Fits posted:Makes me sad that I've pretty much given up on the U+ for this current event. Even with decent synergy and soul breaks, I just don't feel like I have to hones to go the distance, and it doesn't help that I don't have the durations of some of these defensive effects memorized, so they end up lapsing and someone dies. Or everyone gets hit with Slowga and then get torn apart at the boss's leisure since I have no native Hastega and bringing a RW Hastega means forgoing SG/Stoneskin. And I don't have the patience to Hit and Run to build up Soul Break charges (doesn't help that one time I tried this, the boss still managed to get off a spell that left my healer near dead before I fled the fight). Next event is an X event featuring Tidus's OSB, which is convenient since the U, U+, and U++ are all weak to water. Just RW his OSB and watch as like 3/4 of the health bar vanishes instantly.
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I'm not sure how right this is, but in general, if Y'shtola is hasted and doing SOMETHING (even just a staff whack) every turn she gets, Stoneskin II will be up on exactly the turn it wears off, so while she's casting we'll be unprotected but otherwise it doesn't fall off. With RW Shout, I just recast it when the boss is at half health, and if the Ramza I RWed has good MND it works fine.
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KnoxZone posted:Next event is an X event featuring Tidus's OSB, which is convenient since the U, U+, and U++ are all weak to water. Just RW his OSB and watch as like 3/4 of the health bar vanishes instantly. I have Tidus's BSB, so that sounds like it should be manageable.
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W.T. Fits posted:I have Tidus's BSB, so that sounds like it should be manageable. Are you going to try for the OSB? Tidus is an absolute death machine with that combo. Not much resists water.
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After trying out several RW for Ahriman U+ I have to say Unsung Hero is the way to go for the CM. The Defense boost from the entry seriously helps in tanking Maser Eye. I didn't even really come close before.
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Armitage posted:I never want to see Elder Wyrm as a greater than 50 difficulty boss ever again. I'm not gonna go back and champion that fight. gently caress that. Badly designed and overtuned too. RW Cloud's OSB and murder the hell out of him fast.
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KnoxZone posted:As expected, the second wave of triple broken characters arrives tomorrow. This group is all the primary female characters in games (for games like VI and XIII it becomes secondary females).  You bet your rear end I'm gonna triple break Maria. All hail the Earth Goddess of the Apocalypse! 
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Inge posted:Are you going to try for the OSB? Tidus is an absolute death machine with that combo. Not much resists water. I'll toss an 11-pull at the banner, but I don't plan to go crazy chasing it. I've (hopefully) learned my lesson about that at this point.
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Personally, I'm gonna go after it(among things) at OSBFest(why would an OSB not be at OSBfest?). But the reason for that mostly is because that banner has the burst on it too, and I don't have either. And I'd be surprised if that doesn't stick. So if you lack that motivation, and especially if you don't have Faris BSB like I do, Overtidus is a pretty good banner I'd say. (
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gently caress I wish I kept all pumpkins to make a pumpkin team
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YoshiOfYellow posted:
Aaaaaaaugh. I have so many good characters to triple-break. It doesn't help I got Maria's Burst. Though, a few of these new wave Triple Break RMs are pretty situational. Her RM3 is +15% MAG with Bows. Which only really applies to her and maybe a couple others. Though others are pretty nice looking. Rinoa RM3: +25% Black Magic Damage Yuna RM3: +30% Summon Damage Sarah RM3: +25% MND with Staves Lenna RM3: +30% Healing Celes RM3: +40%! Spellblade Damage So...yea...I'd definitely put a few hundred Major eggs aside for some of these RM3s. Celes' is particularly  worthy. Specially with certain SBs that are CODED to be Spellblade damage. Or Tornado Strike...I still need to hone that up for Cloud. People who pulled Bartz's BSB are gonna be VERY happy with that particular RM...Like me.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:I'm not sure how right this is, but in general, if Y'shtola is hasted and doing SOMETHING (even just a staff whack) every turn she gets, Stoneskin II will be up on exactly the turn it wears off, so while she's casting we'll be unprotected but otherwise it doesn't fall off. A rough expectation is about ~6 turns under Haste for 25s, so that's about 70% of a SB bar. So you do need a bit of RNG.
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W.T. Fits posted:Or everyone gets hit with Slowga and then get torn apart at the boss's leisure since I have no native Hastega and bringing a RW Hastega means forgoing SG/Stoneskin. Ahriman is not overtuned. The U++ def is though. My strategy if I were you would be to pull on any banner with a solid hastega or wall. Unless you're consistently lucky then there's a great deal of content you won't be able to handle without at least one of those two buffs native.
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Orfeo posted:We're... what, 3 weeks away from the FF3/Onion Knight event? I'm closing back in on 150 mythril and it's starting to get real heavy. Wait, really? I didn't realize it was that close. poo poo, I guess I'll skip pulling on the Colosseum's banner 2 then (unless I pull Tidus' OSB on the dollar pull, lol yeah right), if I pull on 2 and 4 I definitely won't be able to scrounge up another 50 for a pull on Onion Knight. KnoxZone posted:As expected, the second wave of triple broken characters arrives tomorrow. This group is all the primary female characters in games (for games like VI and XIII it becomes secondary females). Agrias, you're the next choice to become level 99! Nah, it'll probably be Selphie since she's my main healer.
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NaanViolence posted:Ahriman is not overtuned. The U++ def is though. Sorry, I misspoke; when I said "no native Hastega" I meant no FF XII Hastega. I have hastegas from other realms, but the one time I tried running a non-FF XII team ended poorly. It was the attempt I mentioned earlier where I was trying the hit and run tactic to build soul break charges. Turns out not having realm synergy to boost my party's speed stats means Ahirman can get off an attack before all five characters can attack, and at one point Y'shtola ended up eating a Piercing Firaga to the face which dropped her to near zero before I could pause and flee. So... yeah. gently caress this U+. There'll be other MCIIIs later on down the line.
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Ahriman's on the high side for since I've started playing, and given the U++ tier, he's probably stronger than he should be, IMO-feels like you should be avoiding the 10k+ unmitigated nuclear blasts on U+, those are what U++ is for(and the upcoming 200 multiplayer fights, of course). Having said that, I've looked up Caius/Cagnazzo's stats out of curiosity, since they're going to be in the revenge dungeon, and I preeetty well see why someone would say he's not overtuned. Caius fits right in with U++ despite being, you know, way earlier than U++ and hence before a lot of power creep/before people had chances to get good things, and Cagnazzo is frigging stupid even now, I'm going to have to build up my mage team even more and RW Dusk's Decree for that abomination. Which, of course, didn't exist as a thing-or for that matter, refreshing RWs at all-when he was around... So yeah, there's been far, far worse. Reading about the Parade Float event was sorta amazing, honestly. That doesn't really defend Ahriman per se, though.
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You know, I was more hoping for Shield Grimoire out of that JP Keeper's choice, but I'll accept a pair of Sheep Song whips instead. And now that I realized how useful Kuja's Burst is, I'll suppose I'll grab his Gloves for good measure. I think after some EXP Eggs I'm going to be doing horrific things to the Kaiser Dragon.
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Boogaloo Shrimp posted:Ohhhh... I had her actually in my team and thus getting buffed by Shout. drat, I didn't think of that. I hope you were able to still beat the fight. If not, sorry I caused you to waste a bunch of stamina Oh well that explains that. I might be able to figure something out. I'll see if I can use multibreak+Shout+Sephiroth's Reunion+your RW. Might be enough to at least kill the Azers. Problem is I would need to do that all in turn one, because doing all that means no Keeper's tome or using an RW wall. Yeah this probably isn't going to work.
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Quetzacotl can paralyse the Azers, if you have it, to give you some breathing room, and do OK damage. Maybe give it a shot if nothing else is successful, and just S/L until it procs on all three.
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Zebia posted:Oh well that explains that. I ended up in the same boat and yeah it pretty much sucks. I have a native shout so I could RW a Lightning that killed the Azers in two casts, but it also did enough damage to put Mateus into his "weak mode" state where he starts double-casting ridiculous AoE spells at instant speed, so without the RWed Tyro, I just got melted anyway. And if I RW Tyro, I don't have enough damage to kill the Azers before the combined damage becomes overwhelming, because all my good BSBs and high-level characters are physical and most of them are elemental, which the Azers are immune to. Stupidly hard Ultimate fight if you are missing a few key pieces. Last week's U++ was literally a joke by comparison.
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  RW: Shout gently caress this fight if you're trying to CM it without native Hestaga (Like I tried to do like a dozen times) for the realm. If you don't counter the Immobilizega after it happens enjoy eating a ton of attacks without being able to react quickly. Not sure if I wanna do U++ because from what I hear it gets pretty bullshit as well. God I hate FF12 as a realm, horribly designed bosses. A-Team was pretty well off, I won't lie. Too bad the fight also had it's hiccups, like Vaan getting ganged up on because I let my Wall lapse.
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There's really nothing what I'd call "overtuned" about Mateus.  Mateus is pretty much just your standard multi-target Ultimate, with just the slight twist that you want to use only non-elemental or lightning damage. Usual Ultimate fight checklist applies, where you probably want Wall or Hastega native, while RWing the other. Medica is heavily recommended as per all Ultimate content. After that this fight just boils down to actually having and honing the tools needed for multi-target fights, like Dances (Heathen Frolic Sarabrande + Multi Break) or non-elemental/lightning AoE skills (Things like Bladeblitz, Yukikaze, Swift Bolt, Valefor/Maduin, Ramuh, Quetzacoatl/Ixion/Syldra, or 5* or 6* AoE, etc.) I get that it sucks when you're new, and your hones are still being built up, and you feel like you're missing out on rewards. But Ultimates are really the endgame, and building up to being able to complete them comfortably takes a while. Currently, some lucky BSB or OSB pulls may mean that you can kinda "cheat" your way through some Ult fights, but that really is the exception rather than the norm. Thankfully, the Orbfest in December should really help with new players to get your hones up to speed! Especially the 3* and 4* basics mentioned here are important, along with Full Break, and occasionally Multi Break.
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