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FlamingLiberal posted:The push during ST09 was not that big tbh. A few things they planned got cancelled, like how there were going to be 6 or so tie-in novels that took place following the events of ST09 which would explore more of that universe, but they were axed at the last minute. Are they refusing to license, or is nobody interested in doing a licensed game? (possibly because Paramount wants too much money?)
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Star Trek Online's space combat was a good idea but like everything else in that game, a disappointment not worth spending money on
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It's free to play now, and it's not that bad? Most everything so far has been manageable as a single player, and it functions alright as an episodic sort of thing. It's no Bridge Commander or 25th Anniversary, but hoooooly poo poo is it better than the PS3 game.
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Unpopular opinion: I sorta enjoyed Star Trek: Legacy on my Xbox 360. Buggy as gently caress interface though, and awful multiplayer. It was no Bridge Commander though  I picked up Starfleet Academy on Steam, since that game was my obsession back in like 1999. Unfortunately on modern machines the interface just reacts too goddamn fast. The cool rotating wireframes of all the ships go at like 20x speed. I'd kill for a proper remake of Birth of the Federation though. Or even a patch that fixes the egregious memory leak issues.
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Tighclops posted:Star Trek Online's space combat was a good idea but like everything else in that game, a disappointment not worth spending money on Oh that reminds me, I saw STO on the Xbox store the other day, and that's free.
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Kingtheninja posted:Amazon prime has the Blu ray versions with updated visuals. Unfortunately for me, my VPN recently stopped working with prime They're on Netflix too now.
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Do Starfleet officers get paid? I'm onto DS9 now and I just randomly thought about how everyone gets the money to buy drinks at Quark's when they are supposed to be post-scarcity or whatever the Federation's deal is.
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Nov 2, 2016 11:54
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Sins of a Solar Empire has a pretty sweet Star Trek total conversion. http://www.moddb.com/mods/star-trek-armada-3 In case anyone tries it, disable disasters unless you enjoy V'ger showing up 5 minutes in and being an unstoppable planet killer. 
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Pwnstar posted:Do Starfleet officers get paid? I'm onto DS9 now and I just randomly thought about how everyone gets the money to buy drinks at Quark's when they are supposed to be post-scarcity or whatever the Federation's deal is. I think it's implied at some point that Federation officers who are stationed in areas of space that still use a cash economy receive some sort of small stipend in order to engage in that economy. Or something, idk.
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Either way, the federation would destroy any economy it takes part in. Look up the richest man ever. He traveled across the world on some pilgrimage. Along the way, he pumped so much gold into local economies that it became almost worthless.
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FlamingLiberal posted:The push during ST09 was not that big tbh. A few things they planned got cancelled, like how there were going to be 6 or so tie-in novels that took place following the events of ST09 which would explore more of that universe, but they were axed at the last minute.
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mind the walrus posted:Is there any word from inside as to why CBS has such a strong level of trouble with the Star Trek license? Their treatment of it is more consistent of someone with Borderline Personality Disorder than anything else. Gut feeling is that they just never found a showrunner who was a.) passionate about it, b.) competent, and c.) had enough power to avoid being constantly under the thumb of studio execs.
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I meant more on an executive level. There are plenty of creatives who would give their arm to do Star Trek, but at the top levels CBS seems to be barely interested in it until they totally are (but wait they aren't?) and so on and so on. My gut feeling is the expense. Star Trek just isn't a cheap show, especially after 20 straight years of Chuck Lorre sitcoms and Law & Order, so executives will sometimes get the itch to capitalize on it before another looks at the bean counter projections and is either immediately spooked off or tries really hard to retrofit Star Trek into the Star Wars mold.
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I get the impression that CBS just doesn't know what to do with the IP. They have pretty much been sitting on it until now since it left Paramount (the TV side anyway).
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Networks are risk averse. If Discovery is somehow a big hit they'll be only too eager to stump for spinoffs, but as yet it's new expensive and might go nowhere, so there's no enthusiasm about the bottom line.
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Drone posted:I think it's implied at some point that Federation officers who are stationed in areas of space that still use a cash economy receive some sort of small stipend in order to engage in that economy. Or something, idk. Then how the hell did Riker pay to play Dabo if he wasn't stationed on the station? Blade_of_tyshalle posted:FedCred. This makes much more sense.
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mind the walrus posted:Ah network TV. Where quality is accidental.
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MrJacobs posted:Then how the hell did Riker pay to play Dabo if he wasn't stationed on the station? It's likely he had his own personal funds built up for the occasions he'd need a few strips of latinum.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Especially CBS where they just have a show generator that kicks out the same show every year. Not exactly unique to CBS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1SBtxRObBc
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Drone posted:Unpopular opinion: I sorta enjoyed Star Trek: Legacy on my Xbox 360. Buggy as gently caress interface though, and awful multiplayer. The parts of Legacy that worked were pretty decent, but it really needed another six months minimum to polish out the rough edges and maybe kill some of the bad ideas, like that awful Stargazer mission. Not quite Star Trek, but if anyone's looking for a Captain Sisko simulator, try Halcyon 6. It combines XCOM-like starbase and crew management, turn-based RPG combat in space and on the ground, and some vaguely Star Control exploration and questing. I like it a lot and it would probably be eating up all my free time if it weren't for Civilization VI and Overwatch seasonal events.
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mind the walrus posted:I meant more on an executive level. There are plenty of creatives who would give their arm to do Star Trek, but at the top levels CBS seems to be barely interested in it until they totally are (but wait they aren't?) and so on and so on. Law & Order got canceled because it was expensive to produce.
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Starting a re watch of DS9 now that I have the series on DVD. I haven't watch it through for at least 10 years.
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I remember being so damned excited when ds9 finally hit Netflix back in 2011. It was a great watch through.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I get the impression that CBS just doesn't know what to do with the IP. They have pretty much been sitting on it until now since it left Paramount (the TV side anyway). I think part of it is the stupid movie/tv rights division. It's crippled the IP, and doesn't exist with any other major property I can think of. CBS probably thinks "well, if we do anything, Paramount will probably try to steal/capitalize on it anyway, why should we give them anything?" Also the idea that they can never do a movie probably puts a cold shower on their desire to do anything. It's a prickly IP too. Demanding nerdy fans, accessibility issues with the mainstream viewing public, and it's expensive to produce.
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Astroman posted:I think part of it is the stupid movie/tv rights division. It's crippled the IP, and doesn't exist with any other major property I can think of. Marvel is getting pretty famous for it.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Law & Order got canceled because it was expensive to produce. And Dick Wolf just changed cities and started his little tv empire over in Chicago.
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We're rewatching all of ST for the 50th and just got to TNG season 1. I never noticed how many times they had Geordi go look out a window. Also got to the episode where they test out the visor-relay. Of course Picard waits until they're in a dangerous unknown environment to ask a bunch of questions about normal poo poo Geordi sees.
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Imagine if the studio had just fixated on the visor gimmick and kept giving it more and more screentime until the show was just Geordi running around solving mysteries with VisorVision. Although maybe that would have been better than making him a Holodeck rapist or whatever e: I wonder if there's a lot of American TNG fans who don't understand Geordi's name in relation to Scottie. Obviously the superfans are well aware, but does that translate to the common schmuck?
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That just makes me think of Simon Greenall as a frantically incomprehensible engineer and Steve Coogan as captain.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:e: I wonder if there's a lot of American TNG fans who don't understand Geordi's name in relation to Scottie. Obviously the superfans are well aware, but does that translate to the common schmuck? As a stupid kid I just assumed Geordi was a common name from the same place as LaForge. People obviously moved around a lot in the future. And race-associated names were no longer a thing.
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Sorry, what's the connection? Is it some hosed up Scottish version of George or something?
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WeAreTheRomans posted:e: I wonder if there's a lot of American TNG fans who don't understand Geordi's name in relation to Scottie. Obviously the superfans are well aware, but does that translate to the common schmuck?
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A Geordie is a person from the environs of Newcastle. They have silly accents (think the fox in Plague Dogs if you ever read that) and a reputation for being drunks. I can't say this has ever occurred to me in the context of Trek, it's probably a joke on someone's part but Geordi is about as far from being a Geordie as it is possible to be.
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skasion posted:A Geordie is a person from the environs of Newcastle. They have silly accents (think the fox in Plague Dogs if you ever read that) and a reputation for being drunks. I can't say this has ever occurred to me in the context of Trek, it's probably a joke on someone's part but Geordi is about as far from being a Geordie as it is possible to be. Yeah this is about as much of a joke as it is. It's a slant reference to Scottie because it's also a name associated with place, in this case Northern England rather than Scotland. But rather than make him an actual Geordie, they made him a blind black guy. Ofc, now someone will post a link to some famous blind black guy from Newcastle I'd forgotten about. I'm not saying it's not possible, just that they went for a character who doesn't square with the traditional Geordie stereotype (white, working class) The_Doctor posted:Welshy!!! As usual, Futurama nailed it years ago e2: I mean, "LaForge" is a pretty on-the-nose name for an engineer as well WeAreTheRomans fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Nov 3, 2016 |
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Geordi is definitely working-class. You don't see Picard and Riker rolling their pampered asses under slowly closing bulkheads.
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skasion posted:A Geordie is a person from the environs of Newcastle. They have silly accents (think the fox in Plague Dogs if you ever read that) and a reputation for being drunks. I can't say this has ever occurred to me in the context of Trek, it's probably a joke on someone's part but Geordi is about as far from being a Geordie as it is possible to be. Heh, Plague Dogs is the only reason I know about Geordies. To my shame.
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