Rhyno posted:I mean, this is the guy who wrote some of the defining teen comics of all time. The teens defined by those runs are now balding, tho. I love Waid, but Impulse was 20 years ago, dude definitely would have walls to pass to get a teen-only book right.
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That avengers del mundo art omgggg
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Nov 2, 2016 19:59
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Pffff, I'm way ahead of you guys because I didn't even like Champions #1.
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Nov 2, 2016 20:41
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Okay so having read champions 2, 1 ramos still can't draw kamala, and 2 waid makes his social justice jokes very obvious and writes them in such a way to where i can't tell whether he's writing it because he's trying to be like the hip and cool dad who's trying to fit in with his kids or because he thinks it's a crock of poo poo and he's trying to lambast it in the most groan worthy way imaginable
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Wanderer posted:Yeah, me neither. It reads like someone trying to write a parody of a comic that's aimed at millennials. There aren't any Millenials younger than 25. This is aimed even younger, and the issue really missed the mark pretty bad. That micro-aggressions line didn't come off as insulting, just a really desperate "this is what kids are saying, right?"
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Nov 2, 2016 21:24
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To me it was just that no one seemed in-character. Kamala was this nagging Hermione-type who got angry at the idea that she could be a nagging Hermione-type. Amadeus was a 'roidy meathead who made an unironic comparison between Cyclops and Hitler. Viv was, yeah, an emotionless beep-booper. They spend half the issue on the team introducing their powers to each other despite the fact that three of them were already on the same team before. And what the frick was that page on "micro-aggression" about? Does Waid know what that word means?
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Nov 2, 2016 21:38
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I loved Avengers, Occupy Avengers, Moon Knight, and Merc with a Mouth. Champions and Spider-Woman were good too. Haven't gotten to Unworthy Thor yet but it's my last Marvel book for today and so far it's been a great day.
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Nov 2, 2016 21:45
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Poor Miserable Gurgi posted:There aren't any Millenials younger than 25. This is aimed even younger, and the issue really missed the mark pretty bad. Millennials started being born in 1980.
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Nov 2, 2016 22:08
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Rhyno posted:Millennials started being born in 1980. Yeah, and looking it up, it's skewed younger than I thought. Still, the cutoff is 18 or 19, and everyone in that book is younger.
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Nov 2, 2016 22:33
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I've never liked amadeus cho, especially not as the hulk, and champions hasn't been changing my mind
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Nov 2, 2016 22:41
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I think Occupy Avengers is hilarious as a concept. Hawkeye asks 'How do you fight a contaminated water supply?' Normally that would be a very good question that brings attention to political, logistical and legal problems that can't just be punched away. But this problem is being caused by criminals and villains that can be fought and punched, thus negating the whole point and removing any nuance.
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Nov 2, 2016 22:57
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Holy poo poo the art in Avengers is so loving good.
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Nov 2, 2016 23:02
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It seems a step down from the craziness of Weirdworld though. Still good, just more mundane. 
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Nov 2, 2016 23:32
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Holy poo poo the art in Avengers is so loving good. Del Mundo is a treasure.
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Nov 2, 2016 23:34
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Avengers art was great, but the story was confusing and kind of lacking. Will buy every issue off the art alone though because, well, holy poo poo. Champions continued to be great, Waid achieved the impossible and made me really like Cyclops (although, to be fair, young Cyclops has always been pretty good). Dunno why people are complaining that Kamala's being written as Hermione, she's always been a total Hermione. Like that's her defining character, the principled nerd who has very strong, forceful opinions. The Nova/Spider-Man bromance continues to be great. Beyond that Mercs for Money was also very good, and Foolkiller was basically exactly what I wanted from that comic. Foolkiller is great and I would strongly recommend everyone check it out.
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Nov 2, 2016 23:39
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Foolkiller was definitely more promising than solo I'll give it that
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Nov 2, 2016 23:52
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Odinson has some great nipples in his comic.
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Nov 3, 2016 00:54
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Unworthy Thor is the book of the week.
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Manatee Cannon posted:I've never liked amadeus cho, especially not as the hulk, and champions hasn't been changing my mind cho in champions doesn't even vaguely resemble cho in hulk
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Nov 3, 2016 01:47
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Champions feels really loving weird. Like with the exception of Miles and maybe Sam (and his eternal suffering), the characters just don't read as I have been reading them in the past.
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Nov 3, 2016 01:52
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Champions was trash. I'm mainly reading it for Viv but it barely feels like the same character, and the writing on the others feels equally off and the art is hideous. Why couldn't they have gotten del Mundo instead?
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Nov 3, 2016 02:28
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It's funny to see complaints about Waid not being and to write teens anymore as he's killing it on Archie.
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Nov 3, 2016 04:02
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"Sassy" is the word that came to mind for pretty much everyone's dialog in Champions. Didn''t respect already established personalities and everyone sounded same-y. Surprisingly Bad. Gonna miss the young avengers trio we were seeing up till now.
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Nov 3, 2016 05:31
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Endless Mike posted:It's funny to see complaints about Waid not being and to write teens anymore as he's killing it on Archie. Difference is Archie isn't about Superheroes.
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Nov 3, 2016 05:40
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Yeah the writing in this week's Champions was bad but holy poo poo is the art dogshit. Viv deserves better imo. How's the new Thor book?
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Nov 3, 2016 06:58
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fadam posted:How's the new Thor book? Unworthy Thor #1 was the book of the week.
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Nov 3, 2016 07:04
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I liked Champions. It was nice to see a comic that was just chill.
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Nov 3, 2016 07:09
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Never doubt a Jason Aaron Thor book It was a good opening issue Question though because I have not read original sin and I want to make sure I have the story straight: the new watcher odinson talks to on the moon is Nick fury sr correct?
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Nov 3, 2016 07:21
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Yes, unless Aaron pulls something that is him.
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Nov 3, 2016 07:28
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Mang I really wanted the watcher back after secret ears
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Nov 3, 2016 07:29
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Rhyno posted:Yes, unless Aaron pulls something that is him. ty Synthbuttrange posted:Mang I really wanted the watcher back after secret ears I'm okay with nuWatcher I really dig his look site fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Nov 3, 2016 |
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Nov 3, 2016 07:33
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Codependent Poster posted:I liked Champions. It was nice to see a comic that was just chill. I hope actual teens will enjoy the book. Besides Nova and Cyclops, the other four have been rarely written by anyone other than their creators. I don't know if it's hip, but it was a solid read. Avengers was just so drat good. Everyone should give this one a shot. Unworthy Thor was awesome. Would be the best book if Avengers wasn't so great. Two Thor books a month is going to be a real treat.
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Nov 3, 2016 07:48
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Unworthy Thor is only a five issue mini series.
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site posted:ty He looks okay but can you imagine this killjoy hosting a what if?
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Nov 3, 2016 09:48
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irlZaphod posted:Is Unworthy Thor going to actually reveal what made Is there literally any reveal they could pull out that wouldn't be bad?
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Champions #1 already had me thinking that Waid's Kamala sounded nothing like Wilson's, but I don't know if anyone here will agree with me that the closest I've seen to Wilson's-without-being-written-by-Wilson was Kamala's Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur #10 and #11 appearances, even though the centrality of Inhumanity in Lunella's book has Kamala leaning far more on it then in her own. (Amy Reeder and Brandon Montclare also dealt with the concept of microaggressions far differently than Waid did.)
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Onmi posted:Is there literally any reveal they could pull out that wouldn't be bad? I think this is one of those things you have to do even if it is bad. Maybe that's why he's waiting so long. Toss it in at the end of his run. "Loki is Odin's biological son. You're the frost giant!" then walk away and let the next guy deal with it.
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He's left it so long at this point that he'd be better off leaving it dangling and for nobody to ever mention it again.
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irlZaphod posted:He's left it so long at this point that he'd be better off leaving it dangling and for nobody to ever mention it again. It's one of those things you kind of can't never mention. I mean... you can, but then you either have to retire the character (HA!) or hope no one ever asks what the gently caress about the elephant drilling a plot hole in the room. Well... I mean you can reset the universe. But that's cheating, you can't just reset the universe when you write yourself into a corner.
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