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verdigris murder posted:Del Toros super stylish eye wank-bank hreur fest felt hugely weak on all fronts. Imho he's not bettered Hellboy 2 aesthetically and everything else. uh... what?????
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Look man if u cant handle osietra posts ur in the wrong thread
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Basebf555 posted:Zombie used Hardwick again in Halloween 2, he's the late show host that pisses Loomis off with judgmental questions. IIRC, he plays himself in that sequence no less. Like, in the Zombie Halloween Universe, Chris Hardwick is just a Late Night Host.
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MacheteZombie posted:Still haven't found an answer, but in my googling I discovered that Chris Hardwick is the guy that played Jerry which I never realized. (also been a long time since I've seen House of 1000) yeah, and the other dude is Dwight from The Office, isn't it? looking over the list of "Lovecraftian horror" above, I've always felt like Galaxy of Terror was ripe for a remake. It's got just enough interesting ideas going on and just enough poor execution that it could be fixed up into something cool. Plus James Cameron's designs elevate it above the rest of the pack of Roger Corman Alien rip-offs that came out around the same time. I suppose "Creature" from the mid 80's kind of also hits those notes (and I think they even recycled some of the costumes from Galaxy of Terror). Plus it has Klaus Kinski chewing scenery like... Klaus Kinski. And Ferris Bueller's dad is one of the heroes.  They're all sort of rough remakes of Planet of the Vampires anyway (which still holds up).
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This might sound stupid but have you seen Prometheus? Thematically it has more to do with Galaxy of Terror than any Alien film. It actually follows a very similar plot and of all the times people on CineD say "___ is actually a remake of ____," it's very very similar. Partially because it's sort of a (like The Church) conversation with what we want and expect from sci-fi movies and from Galaxy of Terror being loosely inspired by Alien anyway, but I wasn't kidding when I listed it earlier among movies that really nailed that cynicism about how worthless humanity is that we call "Lovecraftian" now. I want to love Lords of Salem, it's the best looking of Zombie's flicks, everyone's really point, it works both as a satanic horror movie and there's a surreal tragedy about being trapped in a self-destructive situation because of enablers at different extremes of thinking that think they're doing what's best for you, but the movie really peters out at the end. It felt like a it ended like half an hour before its running time was up. I still need to actually watch Zombie's takes on Halloween and Halloween II. The initial word on both had me so skeptical I totally skipped out on them. The Devil's Rejects really is awesome. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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Nov 4, 2016 03:52
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Neo Rasa posted:I want to love Lords of Salem, it's the best looking of Zombie's flicks, everyone's really point, it works both as a satanic horror movie and there's a surreal tragedy about being trapped in a self-destructive situation because of enablers at different extremes of thinking that think they're doing what's best for you, but the movie really peters out at the end. It felt like a it handed like half an hour before its running time was up. When watching Lords of Salem, I kept thinking I just wanted a regular drama about 3 small-town DJ's shooting the poo poo and dealing with life. I'd say it's probably Sheri MZ's best performance, hands down.
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Stryder posted:When watching Lords of Salem, I kept thinking I just wanted a regular drama about 3 small-town DJ's shooting the poo poo and dealing with life. I'd say it's probably Sheri MZ's best performance, hands down. I was wondering about this myself, I wonder if someone's ever played with making a fan cut where it just follows them hanging out/etc., she gets addicted to drugs again and has a lot of hallucinations, and no one cares enough to help her out.
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Watching the Arrow release of C.H.U.D. for the first time ever. Despite being such a cult film, I honestly have no idea what to expect.
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Does anyone have insight on to what the hell happened with The Girl with All the Gifts release in the USA? I know it got a limited release in the beginning of October, and then just nothing... no news of a wide release that I can find. Even if it stayed limited, in Atlanta we usually get all limited films 2-3 weeks later, but I haven't seen or heard anything about this one. It looks great and got good reviews. Are they really going to skip right to bluray or something?
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EL BROMANCE posted:Watching the Arrow release of C.H.U.D. for the first time ever. Despite being such a cult film, I honestly have no idea what to expect. Not only is it an awesome film all around to me, but there are two shots/quick scenes in this movie that James Cameron absolutely totally ripped off, one appearing in The Terminator and the other in Aliens, can you spot them? 
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Gotta admit, it was completely different to expectations. Can't say I love it, but I found it more interesting than a lot of low budget 80s sci-fi horrors, so there's that.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Watching the Arrow release of C.H.U.D. for the first time ever. Despite being such a cult film, I honestly have no idea what to expect. Be sure to do a re-watch with the commentary enabled (assuming the commentary track is the same one that was on the older DVD release). It's one of the funniest commentary tracks I've ever heard, with all the main actors, the director and original screenwriter poking fun at the film and ripping the film's producer to shreds (so much so that he even left an angry Amazon review). The best moment is probably the reaction from the (unpaid) actors when the director confesses that he got $100,000 for selling the rights to C.H.U.D, with Daniel Stern deciding to protest by saying 'gently caress' for the remainder of the commentary. (I've never actually watched CHUD commentary-less but I've watched it with the commentary probably 10 times.  )
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Nov 4, 2016 09:49
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Basebf555 posted:Zombie used Hardwick again in Halloween 2, he's the late show host that pisses Loomis off with judgmental questions. Haha awesome. I really like when comedians show up in horror movies. They always seem to gel with the material. Stryder posted:yeah, and the other dude is Dwight from The Office, isn't it? Yup! I would only be into a Galaxy of Terror direct remake if they got Robert Englund to be in it again. Neo Rasa posted:This might sound stupid but have you seen Prometheus? Thematically it has more to do with Galaxy of Terror than any Alien film. It actually follows a very similar plot and of all the times people on CineD say "___ is actually a remake of ____," it's very very similar. Partially because it's sort of a (like The Church) conversation with what we want and expect from sci-fi movies and from Galaxy of Terror being loosely inspired by Alien anyway, but I wasn't kidding when I listed it earlier among movies that really nailed that cynicism about how worthless humanity is that we call "Lovecraftian" now. Prometheus rules. Also, I love when CineD does "x is a remake/sequel of y". One of the easiest ways to get me to look into a movie (even if I can't watch them all).
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MacheteZombie posted:
HALT! This is the movie police
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heard u like girls posted:HALT! This is the movie police I'm a lifer in movie jail. Not sweatin' it.
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boof posted:Be sure to do a re-watch with the commentary enabled (assuming the commentary track is the same one that was on the older DVD release). It's one of the funniest commentary tracks I've ever heard, with all the main actors, the director and original screenwriter poking fun at the film and ripping the film's producer to shreds (so much so that he even left an angry Amazon review). The best moment is probably the reaction from the (unpaid) actors when the director confesses that he got $100,000 for selling the rights to C.H.U.D, with Daniel Stern deciding to protest by saying 'gently caress' for the remainder of the commentary. Ha, that does sound entertaining actually. It seems like forever since I've listened to a commentary track too. The only extra I've seen so far is the 'Extended Shower Scene' which is presented on its own, and should more accurately be titled 'Hey we cut boobs out of this movie, and you should totally check them out'.
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I like Prometheus, Cloud Atlas, AvP: Requiem, Star Wars Episode I, Only God Forgives, and Waterworld. I guess I'd be on death row.
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Basebf555 posted:I like Prometheus, Cloud Atlas, AvP: Requiem, Star Wars Episode I, Only God Forgives, and Waterworld. I guess I'd be on death row. 
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Basebf555 posted:I like Prometheus, Cloud Atlas, AvP: Requiem, Star Wars Episode I, Only God Forgives, and Waterworld. I guess I'd be on death row. I'm with you on Prometheus, SWE1, and Only God Forgives. I also like pretty much any movie Eli Roth is involved in and am a Toetag entertainment apologist. Lock me up. Is You're Next worth watching if you already know the ending?
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e:nm, accidental double post.
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Nov 4, 2016 21:04
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Kvlt! posted:... and am a Toetag entertainment apologist. Lock me up. Well, remember now, there was a time when we weren't so sure if maybe you should be locked up! Edit: You're Next is worth watching even if you know the twist. Actually, its possible that the movie has one or two more twists than you're thinking it does. Regardless, its full of awesome moments that aren't necessarily plot related so I'd say just watch it. Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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Nov 4, 2016 21:06
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Kvlt! posted:Is You're Next worth watching if you already know the ending? Absolutely. You're Next is worth watching if you've already seen it ten times.
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Cloud Atlas fuckin owns. I've seen You're Next like 5 times, and it's great every time. It does not gently caress around and has excellent pacing.
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HORROR THREAD DEBATE Topic: Best Stephen King horror adaptation to film or television series.  Fig.1 - Stephen King Please present your case and provide evidence in video and/or screencap form if possible. Movie quotes are encouraged, as is trivia.  Fig.2 - Cocaine
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Debate contender: Pet Sematary  Admittedly an oddball contender, but: - the story itself is terrifying - it was the first film adaptation of a Stephen King story that was properly shot in Maine - it spawned a RAMONES song, which Dee Dee wrote in Stephen King's house, one hour after King gave him a copy of the novel ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7f2LZK3zsY - Fred Gwynne is in it and he's great: he had way more range than he got credit for - that loving cat - it was from the 80s, one of the greatest for horror "The ground is sour."
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Love that Ramones song, it's great
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heard u like girls posted:Love that Ramones song, it's great It was nominated at that year's Razzie awards for worst soundtrack song too. The Razzies are stupid.
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I've been on a big Stephen King kick lately and Carrie is definitely the best Stephen King movie. Great acting, great directing, scary, lot of emotional heft, etc. Pet Sematary's top 5 though. Cat is very cute.
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The best King movie is Carrie, The Shining, or Stand by Me, but the most King movie is Maximum Overdrive.
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On a slight tangent, what's the most accurate portrayal? I often enjoy the adaptations, but virtually everything I've seen that I've also read has had major elements changed. I guess it's just super hard to take his ideas and put them on screen without losing something, as it's such a common thing. The page to screen adaptation I was most disappointed in was definitely Needful Things. That was probably my favourite book of his, and the movie just wasn't enjoyable.
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Point of clarification: does "Best Stephen King horror adaptation to film or television series" mean we are judging how well it was adapted or the resulting quality of the movie? For example, Kubrick's Shining vs the TV miniseries - the first is a much better movie, the second is much closer to the book and I guess you could argue it's a "better" adaptation by that metric.
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EL BROMANCE posted:On a slight tangent, what's the most accurate portrayal? I often enjoy the adaptations, but virtually everything I've seen that I've also read has had major elements changed. I guess it's just super hard to take his ideas and put them on screen without losing something, as it's such a common thing. as far as movies that are actually good, Misery's pretty close. The Dead Zone is my #2 pick for best after Carrie. Creepshow is probably number three.
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Carrie has the DePalma factor, but can you rank it above Kubrick's The Shining? King famously hated Kubrick's adaptation, but as a film, does it deserve to be higher ranked than DePalma's tighter interpretation (which still deviates a bit)?  vs.  david_a posted:Point of clarification: does "Best Stephen King horror adaptation to film or television series" mean we are judging how well it was adapted or the resulting quality of the movie? For example, Kubrick's Shining vs the TV miniseries - the first is a much better movie, the second is much closer to the book and I guess you could argue it's a "better" adaptation by that metric. As above, that's entirely up to you. How important do you think it is for the adaptation to stay true to the original book? Would Kubrick's vision of The Shining have suffered if he stuck closer to King's ideas?
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Does Creepshow count as a Stephen King film?
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The biggest problem with Pet Sematary is that apart from the incredible and unsettling (helicopter?) shot of the ancient ritual site, it's pretty bland looking. Lambert went on to never direct another memorable thing ever and Peter Stein (the dp) tailed off big and stopped doing film work almost completely just a few years later. Maybe his heart wasn't in it. Second biggest problem is that the lead doesn't sell either the pathos or the insanity of his situation at all. Gwynne styles on him every scene they have together. Still a very good movie, but I can't call it the best King. Carrie is amazing, and I maybe underrate it because it suffers a bit compared to absolute top tier DePalma. The first six King movies are all outstanding (Carrie, The Shining, Creepshow, Cujo, Dead Zone, Christine iirc) and drat what a murderer's row of directors. After that the crap overwhelms the good stuff pretty quickly, but Misery, Stand By Me, Pet Sematary, The Mist, and Apt Pupil are all good stuff. I kind of like Cat's Eye, too. I guess with a gun to my head, I'd go to bat for Creepshow over the rest.
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The Night Flier doesn't have poo poo on The Shining or Carrie or Creepshow but I still love it. It's like a proto Nughtcrawler with the protagonist being a deeply unsympathetic and slimy news photographer who stops at nothing to get the most shocking pictures for the tabloids. Also the vampire looks really monstrous and gnarly and cool.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Ha, that does sound entertaining actually. It seems like forever since I've listened to a commentary track too. The only extra I've seen so far is the 'Extended Shower Scene' which is presented on its own, and should more accurately be titled 'Hey we cut boobs out of this movie, and you should totally check them out'. It's the opposite! The producer got suddenly adamant that a nude scene be added into the film, so they agreed but instead rolled with making a surreal hallucination scene about whether or not she wants to get an abortion, which ended up being too controversial to put in the movie until later releases. 
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InfiniteZero posted:HORROR THREAD DEBATE Christine. Carpenter boils down the middling novel into its purest essence, cutting out the "dead old man who swears a lot" subplot and make it just an evil loving car. It features the same subtle haunting kind of terror as Halloween does, but with a car as the slasher. It has super memorable kills and really awesome special effects. Every character in the film feels very natural, even the psychopathic leader of the bully clique. Keith Gordon delivers an amazing perforrmance from shy relatable nerd to terrifying psychotic greaser. His descent into madness as he falls prey to Christine's influence feels really tragic and has very obvious drug addiction parallels. The movie's got a great cinematography and a killer score. It's neither Carpenter's nor King's most famous movie, but I consider it to be perfectly executed. Oh, and it's great car porn, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6UjtDs-WrQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa_buleqaMM "Death to the shitters of the world!" - Arnie Cummingham
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Before I saw Christine I wouldn't have expected that the special effects would be a main draw but they really pull off some cool stuff with the car.
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