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Admiral Ray posted:It doesn't fly under reddit admin scrutiny. Admins have posted there several times telling them they need to stop loving up other subreddits and other moderators, but they won't ban the place because they don't want 16 tons of dogshit shipped to reddit HQ by trumpettes. Reddit (the company) is full of cowards, basically.
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Alan Smithee posted:Ted Cruz is tsundere-Chan that's a funny way of spelling 'ted cruz is secretly the zodiac killer, also secretly moe' Ningyou fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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Pakled posted:If we're posting maps, here's my guess. I dunno, I think with the early voting data and stuff, we also get Florida.
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Nov 4, 2016 05:47
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cult member at airport posted:In a whiter state this would easily pass and you can bet it's the minority kids that would suffer. So really, this guy saying "colored people" isn't a surprise at all. He's pushing a racist amendment. it's kind of a desperate appeal to metro black parents who are highly frustrated with the state of atlanta public schools and are really into charter schools as a reform method. the NAACP and other groups are against it because it kinda racist but there's broad popular appeal: -The American Federation for Children National School Choice survey (Jan. 2016) showed 76 percent of African-Americans support school choice. -BAEO poll (Aug. 2015) showed the majority of African-American voters surveyed support charter schools – Tennessee 67%, Louisiana 65%, New Jersey 65%, Alabama 54%. -Parents for Educational Freedom in North Carolina poll of African-Americans (June 2016) found 56% favor public charter schools and 59% favor school choice.
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Nov 4, 2016 05:48
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gfsincere posted:If you're willing to express a belief in public, you should have to own the social consequences of that belief. It cuts both ways. If you have a racist boss, you might want to post with a pseudonym on a Black Lives Matter group and not your real name. If you're a gay teen born to religious fundies, you might prefer your LGBT community be on Reddit or Tumblr or something instead of a public forum linked to your Facebook. "Don't be a coward" is the mentality that leads to people outing rape accusers etc. Ultimately what you really want is protections for people you care about and the people you don't like to have the courage to line up and take it in the shorts. Don't we all? Anyway, I'm done with this derail, I said everything I wanted to.
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Nov 4, 2016 05:50
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:I hate being that guy but the CNN poll (and others from them) did not include literally zero people under 35. There were not enough people in that group to make a statistically significant prediction because the MoE was too high, but that is not the same as literally zero people. That's still makes the demographics pretty far off when 35 and under was over a fifth of the electorate in NV 2012.
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The Shortest Path posted:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1313881651/grand-old-academy-a-satirical-dating-sim The backer rewards sure are something else. Pocket turtles!
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gfsincere posted:Reddit (the company) is full of cowards, basically. I remember reading some post by a former Reddit CEO about how the whole problem with r/jailbait and why it was eventually was banned was simply that Reddit didn't have enough resources to confirm if all the content was 100% legal, and not because they're a bunch of sick fucks.
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Craptacular! posted:It cuts both ways. If you have a racist boss, you might want to post with a pseudonym on a Black Lives Matter group and not your real name. If you're a gay teen born to religious fundies, you might prefer your LGBT community be on Reddit or Tumblr or something instead of a public forum linked to your Facebook. "Don't be a coward" is the mentality that leads to people outing rape accusers etc. This really sounds like a giant false equivalency. One major difference is that if you are posting on a black lives matter group, you most likely aren't spouting off a ton of racist poo poo.
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Nov 4, 2016 05:53
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gfsincere posted:Reddit (the company) is full of cowards, basically. Not cowards, their behavior during the /jailbait fiasco made it pretty clear they're sympathetic to libertarian ideas. Very South Park-esque
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lozzle posted:I remember reading some post by a former Reddit CEO about how the whole problem with r/jailbait and why it was eventually was banned was simply that Reddit didn't have enough resources to confirm if all the content was 100% legal, and not because they're a bunch of sick fucks. This is the problem with Reddit, and to a lesser extent twitter. They thought that free speech would mean "Free exchange of ideas" when it turned into hugboxes and downvote brigades, and gods forbid if you even attempt to shut down anything because then everyone gets royally pissed off.
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Nov 4, 2016 05:55
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blackguy32 posted:This really sounds like a giant false equivalency. One major difference is that if you are posting on a black lives matter group, you most likely aren't spouting off a ton of racist poo poo. Exactly! We can create safe spaces for gay teens and BLM activists without having to give safe spaces to racists too.
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Craptacular! posted:It cuts both ways. If you have a racist boss, you might want to post with a pseudonym on a Black Lives Matter group and not your real name. If you're a gay teen born to religious fundies, you might prefer your LGBT community be on Reddit or Tumblr or something instead of a public forum linked to your Facebook. "Don't be a coward" is the mentality that leads to people outing rape accusers etc. https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312
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lozzle posted:I remember reading some post by a former Reddit CEO about how the whole problem with r/jailbait and why it was eventually was banned was simply that Reddit didn't have enough resources to confirm if all the content was 100% legal, and not because they're a bunch of sick fucks. Reddit wants to just be a neutral platform for literally everything; just like your ISP "allows" racist or potentially illegal material to get to your computer. That way they don't need to aggressively moderate the entire site and minimize liability for the entire company while maintaining the largest audience to buy reddit gold or whatever they're pushing these days.
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As far as I know, r/the_donald hasn't actually broken any rules other than try to manipulate front page algorithms and they've been yelled at and the front page algorithms changed because of them. But that's no different than Twitter changing it's trending algorithm because 14 year old girls were determined to keep Justin Bieber the #1 trending topic for a whole decade. What is it you really expect of them that they aren't doing? Directly refuse to allow Trump supporters to have a platform there?
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Nov 4, 2016 05:58
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gfsincere posted:Reddit (the company) is full of cowards, basically. Maybe if the correct thing happens on Nov. 8, reddit, twitter, and facebook will clean house.
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lozzle posted:I remember reading some post by a former Reddit CEO about how the whole problem with r/jailbait and why it was eventually was banned was simply that Reddit didn't have enough resources to confirm if all the content was 100% legal, and not because they're a bunch of sick fucks. I subscribe to the belief of ultimate responsibility. The admins have the ultimate say of what is and isn't allowed and so bear the ultimate moral responsibility for the content they allowed on the site. Not being able to keep up means they knowingly allowed a thriving child porn exchange to develop and ignored it despite the clear and obvious danger of having a subreddit dedicated to sexualizing minors administered by a creepy weirdo. They should have shut that poo poo down from the word go and are hosed up trash people as a result.
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Craptacular! posted:What is it you really expect of them that they aren't doing? Directly refuse to allow Trump supporters to have a platform there? Yes. Exactly this.
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Craptacular! posted:As far as I know, r/the_donald hasn't actually broken any rules other than try to manipulate front page algorithms and they've been yelled at and the front page algorithms changed because of them. But that's no different than Twitter changing it's trending algorithm because 14 year old girls were determined to keep Justin Bieber the #1 trending topic for a whole decade. If you allow people to behave like neo-Nazis, you a. Shouldn't be surprised that your website turns in to Stormfront and B. Should anticipate the corresponding loss in revenue, and inability to market yourself as a product
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Craptacular! posted:As far as I know, r/the_donald hasn't actually broken any rules other than try to manipulate front page algorithms and they've been yelled at and the front page algorithms changed because of them. But that's no different than Twitter changing it's trending algorithm because 14 year old girls were determined to keep Justin Bieber the #1 trending topic for a whole decade. They've banned communities in the past for much less significant vote manipulation than /r/the_donald is doing. Vote manipulation's one of the only things that the reddit admins (normally) take seriously.
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Major social media sites denying a platform to supporters of a major political party's nominee seems like a precedent that could backfire tremendously. Far better to make, say, open racism or sexism bannable and watch as the trumpeters weed themselves out for you.
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boner confessor posted:it's kind of a desperate appeal to metro black parents who are highly frustrated with the state of atlanta public schools and are really into charter schools as a reform method. the NAACP and other groups are against it because it kinda racist but there's broad popular appeal: Here's the fundamental problem people seem to never ever get when they look at the number of black people supporting school choice. What they are actually supporting is the choice to not go to their underfunded rear end school in their underfunded rear end district and choose to go to the nice school where all the white people at and the great class sizes and computers and poo poo. We don't want private lovely schools. We want the same good schools the white kids get to go to. Craptacular! posted:It cuts both ways. If you have a racist boss, you might want to post with a pseudonym on a Black Lives Matter group and not your real name. If you're a gay teen born to religious fundies, you might prefer your LGBT community be on Reddit or Tumblr or something instead of a public forum linked to your Facebook. "Don't be a coward" is the mentality that leads to people outing rape accusers etc. It does, hence why I included MLK Jr, and I'm easily searchable on YouTube for talking about racism in Ferguson and in my field of work. So...
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stone cold posted:If you allow people to behave like neo-Nazis, you I don't know, Trump marketing himself to racists is going pretty well for him everything considers. He's got a base fit for the scam TrumpTV will be.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Yes. Exactly this. It's not going to happen for the same reason that mass media isn't just going to blackout his campaign and let their reporters go home. The right's persecution complex plays a small role, of course; but media companies want to believe that they're supposed to play a neutral role in the national conversation.
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gfsincere posted:Here's the fundamental problem people seem to never ever get when they look at the number of black people supporting school choice. John Oliver did a great segment on school segregation last week, and they showed like a 'school swap.' It was pretty heartbreaking when this young black kid walked into some suburban white school's Mac Lab. Tying school funding to property taxes is evil.
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theflyingorc posted:Not cowards, their behavior during the /jailbait fiasco made it pretty clear they're sympathetic to libertarian ideas. Very South Park-esque 99.9% of libertarians are cowards, so... Craptacular! posted:As far as I know, r/the_donald hasn't actually broken any rules other than try to manipulate front page algorithms and they've been yelled at and the front page algorithms changed because of them. But that's no different than Twitter changing it's trending algorithm because 14 year old girls were determined to keep Justin Bieber the #1 trending topic for a whole decade. Admiral Ray posted:I subscribe to the belief of ultimate responsibility. The admins have the ultimate say of what is and isn't allowed and so bear the ultimate moral responsibility for the content they allowed on the site. Not being able to keep up means they knowingly allowed a thriving child porn exchange to develop and ignored it despite the clear and obvious danger of having a subreddit dedicated to sexualizing minors administered by a creepy weirdo. They should have shut that poo poo down from the word go and are hosed up trash people as a result. Done and done.
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iospace posted:This is the problem with Reddit, and to a lesser extent twitter. They thought that free speech would mean "Free exchange of ideas" when it turned into hugboxes and downvote brigades, and gods forbid if you even attempt to shut down anything because then everyone gets royally pissed off. Turns out a lot of people interpret the meaning of "freedom of speech" as "freedom to be a racist/sexist rear end in a top hat to as many people as possible and receive no criticism for it because if anyone tries to call me on my bullshit that's not freedom of speech that's oppression". Of course every oppressed minority in America already knew that, but thanks to the Internet there's now documented evidence. Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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Craptacular! posted:The idea of playing Internet detective and calling/mailing/death threatening people off internet posts didn't happen too frequently pre-2002 or so. That has more to do with the nature of "FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD: Secret Muslim?" email culture of unafraid racists airing their racist opinions, spilling out into an internet populace that increasingly has a profile with their real actual DMV-registered name out there somewhere. I think the problem is just that you have to look at the internet back then. The only people bothering with all of this were for the most part, from a very very very specific demographic. You didn't have as much angry fighting like that because there wasn't as much disagreement in general about the big picture. Sure you might find slap fights about captain kirk vs. picard, but no one outside of a total loon cares enough to try and get into someones real life over that. Fast forward to people who are gay, minority, transgendered, women, real things that are the core of someone conflicting in a real way with people who are polar opposites. I think its easy to romanticize the old wild west of the internet days, before everyone's grandma was posting to their grandkid's to check out this video on twitter about muslims. You could get away with blowing off the internet stuff as separate and not important because it wasn't back then. Those days are gone and can never come back, the closest analog anymore is going to be specific communities, your reddits etc. The internet at large is just no longer this thing some nerds and tech people are having fun with, it IS the real world, and everyone's world. What is it, 1/5th of all humans on the planet have a facebook account alone? It just can never be like it was, it can never be so meaningless and easily shaken off again.
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M_Gargantua posted:I don't know, Trump marketing himself to racists is going pretty well for him everything considers. He's got a base fit for the scam TrumpTV will be. He will lose his 'empire' and he has already damaged his brand beyond repair. Wingnut welfare will undoubtedly be insufficient for him, and I'm so happy he has thoroughly destroyed any inroads he had in becoming a true member of the New York elite.
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stone cold posted:John Oliver did a great segment on school segregation last week, and they showed like a 'school swap.' It was pretty heartbreaking when this young black kid walked into some suburban white school's Mac Lab. Yep, I did the school swap thing, except I got sent to a Montessori school for a week. Got into a fight on day 3 because a kid called me a stupid friend of the family cheater for getting the highest score on a test. Guess who got in trouble though, much like this site?
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Luigi Thirty posted:Turns out the FBI hates Clinton! Just a reminder that the FOP and the majority of police unions are backing actual criminal Donald Trump. Because law enforcement agencies all lining up behind an authoritarian strongman never ends badly!
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gfsincere posted:Yep, I did the school swap thing, except I got sent to a Montessori school for a week. Got into a fight on day 3 because a kid called me a stupid friend of the family cheater for getting the highest score on a test. That's hideously awful. Like, my heart breaks for kid you.  I just want America to be a better place for kids, especially minorities.
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College friends told me about SA and I joined up because I wanted to play Planetside with people who were organized and didn't suck. There: that's my shameful secret.
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Munkeymon posted:I wanted to play Planetside with people who were organized and didn't suck. haha good joke
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stone cold posted:That's hideously awful. Like, my heart breaks for kid you. Dude, it's happened about 5 times in my life where I'll show up a bunch of wealthy white kids (or in one case, wealthy Asian) and they have no recourse, no other reaction to their worldview falling to pieces, than to call me a friend of the family. Then they have to deal with the fact that they got beaten by me twice that day, because kids of upper middle class parents can't fight worth a poo poo.
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I joined something awful because several of my friends in high school were members.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Turns out a lot of people interpret the meaning of "freedom of speech" as "freedom to be a racist/sexist rear end in a top hat to as many people as possible and receive no criticism for it because if anyone tries to call me on my bullshit that's not freedom of speech that's oppression". This is pretty much why Trump is the anti-PC candidate. Every article/story/interaction I've had with Trump supporters has resulted in them saying that they feel they can't speak anymore without being attacked and so they have lost their voice in this country.
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