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GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Man Musk posted:

EU4 Question:

For events like "Nobility Request Privileges" or "Bourgeoisie Request Privileges" - do these trigger additional events down the road? A lot of the time it feels like a choice between tech loss and regional autonomy is a no-brainer, so not sure if there are hidden costs...

If those events increase influence then they could cause trouble down the line. They can seize power if their influence grows too high.

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Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
Most events in EU4 aren't chains, especially when they're ones that come up regularly. In fact I think if it's a chain, it'll usually let you know ahead of time.

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.

Man Musk posted:

EU4 Question:

For events like "Nobility Request Privileges" or "Bourgeoisie Request Privileges" - do these trigger additional events down the road? A lot of the time it feels like a choice between tech loss and regional autonomy is a no-brainer, so not sure if there are hidden costs...

Doesn't granting them also nullify them for the other if they currently have them?

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Man Musk posted:

Yup, it was just an example, should have clarified. The Nobility one just popped up so wasn't sure if it was a theme across the different classes or whatevs. Still, I'm not sure if I should be treating these events mechanically or as some sort of weird RP where I can get something down the line that rewards me for sacrificing ___ tech.

Anyone remember those little buttons in CK1 that controlled the relative power of nobles/priests/burghers/peasants? And the events that popped every so often telling you that because you were such a chill dude your country was turning into a peasant paradise (with a terrible army, because acting like a feudal rear end in a top hat unambiguously gave you the best force comp)?

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Man Musk posted:

EU4 Question:

For events like "Nobility Request Privileges" or "Bourgeoisie Request Privileges" - do these trigger additional events down the road? A lot of the time it feels like a choice between tech loss and regional autonomy is a no-brainer, so not sure if there are hidden costs...

Autonomy can be really damaging actually, so I tend to give up the monarch points. Not sure how good a province has to be for that to be correct tbh.

Patrat
Feb 14, 2012

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

Autonomy can be really damaging actually, so I tend to give up the monarch points. Not sure how good a province has to be for that to be correct tbh.

The big factor is if you are at war or not, if you are at peace then the autonomy ticks are countered by the 'at peace' passive autonomy reduction and nothing really happens.

If you are stuck in continual warfare then it can be enormously damaging.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Patrat posted:

The big factor is if you are at war or not, if you are at peace then the autonomy ticks are countered by the 'at peace' passive autonomy reduction and nothing really happens.

If you are stuck in continual warfare then it can be enormously damaging.

If you are not in continual warfare you may be playing wrong. At least according to DDRJake.

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

Autonomous Monster posted:

Anyone remember those little buttons in CK1 that controlled the relative power of nobles/priests/burghers/peasants? And the events that popped every so often telling you that because you were such a chill dude your country was turning into a peasant paradise (with a terrible army, because acting like a feudal rear end in a top hat unambiguously gave you the best force comp)?

A bunch of the expansions are in the Halloween Sale. I went hog wild on them and one expansion adds such a mechanic (estates), heh

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





"Crosspost from r/relationships" posted:

As much as I hate to derail, I looked at the healslut reddit and wtf. Some guy was talking about getting off in CKII as a vassal sub to his dom king. How do you put your normal kink into a weird video game fetish.

Groogy
Jun 12, 2014

Tanks are kinda wasted on invading the USSR
Finally, this is the last thing I needed. Now my CV for Pornhub is complete.


I've never been prouder of my work.

Zombiepop
Mar 30, 2010
that would be weird in multiplayer.
I would read a LP by that dude tho.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Zombiepop posted:

that would be weird in multiplayer.
I would read a LP by that dude tho.

He tried that on Johan once and he dropped him down an elevator shaft

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer
Can someone help me with what Hearts of Iron III DLC is worth it and which are as dumb as sprite packs?

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Don't buy HOI3

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Stairmaster posted:

Don't buy HOI3



yes. but if you did, in some kind of idiot spasm, then still dont buy anything but the big expensive expansion packs because the small dlc literally don't work and are broken

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

corn in the bible posted:

yes. but if you did, in some kind of idiot spasm, then still dont buy anything but the big expensive expansion packs because the small dlc literally don't work and are broken

I already have it so should I buy 4 instead and please expound on what expensive is? Like the 5usd ones?

The Narrator
Aug 11, 2011

bernie would have won

Herr Tog posted:

I already have it so should I buy 4 instead and please expound on what expensive is? Like the 5usd ones?

I absolutely recommend HoI4 rather than 3.

If you want to continue playing 3, depending on how much you value your money, Semper Fi, For the Motherland, and Their Finest Hour are the "big" expansions, and probably the only ones worth getting. That said, don't do it. Get HoI4.

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

The Narrator posted:

I absolutely recommend HoI4 rather than 3.

If you want to continue playing 3, depending on how much you value your money, Semper Fi, For the Motherland, and Their Finest Hour are the "big" expansions, and probably the only ones worth getting. That said, don't do it. Get HoI4.

Thank you

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Does anyone play the MEIOU and Taxes mod for EU4? I'm having a hard time determining which country to start as and when?

Groogy
Jun 12, 2014

Tanks are kinda wasted on invading the USSR
Metz, it's a really cool OPM you should give a try. To help you find it here's an image.

Groogy fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Nov 4, 2016

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


That's an old version of the mod, the Trois-Eveches province is scattered in more pieces now.

I would suggest first picking any country and letting it run for an in-game year. Last time I tried M&T I was on a rather old computer, but even so it ran super slow, so you want to make sure it runs ok for you if you're going to attempt to play it.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

YF-23 posted:

That's an old version of the mod, the Trois-Eveches province is scattered in more pieces now.

:catstare: not less?

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!



Dude there's more than just Trois-Eveches. Here's some screenshots I took when I tried to run M&T a while back. I cannot tell if this is post-Cossacks or post-Mare Nostrum, but in any case it lags a bit behind where we currently are. Also, I think M&T is still only compatible up to 1.17, what with being as huge as it is, it always takes it some time to get compatibility up after a major patch releases.






(this one, like T-E has been in parts from EU3 days)
















Yep, those two are different provinces.

YF-23 fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Nov 4, 2016

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

YF-23 posted:

Dude there's more than just Trois-Eveches. Here's some screenshots I took when I tried to run M&T a while back. I cannot tell if this is post-Cossacks or post-Mare Nostrum, but in any case it lags a bit behind where we currently are. Also, I think M&T is still only compatible up to 1.17, what with being as huge as it is, it always takes it some time to get compatibility up after a major patch releases.


I have this strange urge to scream, also I taste copper and my arm is numb.

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


That's normal.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
If there's one thing that gives me confidence in Paradox as a company, it's that they haven't offered jobs to the people behind these kitchen sink, model-every-shirt-button-in-every-division mods. (post ck2)

That I know of.

Groogy
Jun 12, 2014

Tanks are kinda wasted on invading the USSR
We should hire the people that made VIET mod

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Groogy posted:

We should hire the people that made Steppe Wolf

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Screw your kinky Skyrim mods, this is everything that is wrong about modding. This is what condemns it to hell and damnation.

Freudian
Mar 23, 2011

Fintilgin posted:

Screw your kinky Skyrim mods, this is everything that is wrong about modding. This is what condemns it to hell and damnation.

* Horse clits now split into three historically accurate portions

Groogy
Jun 12, 2014

Tanks are kinda wasted on invading the USSR
Worst part as how the game works (haven't played with the mod myself so I am guessing based on code) that your troops can move to any bordering province of any of those green dots. So distance to move to the french province is 1 move away just like moving to Lorraine province is one move away, even though there is that orange nation in between.

Obfuscation
Jan 1, 2008
Good luck to you, I know you believe in hell
It works like a tiny wormhole, that's very historically plausible.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

Obfuscation posted:

It works like a tiny wormhole, that's very historically plausible.

stellaris take note

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
wait, are they still using base tax and the old building system?

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


I said those screenshots are old, I might've underestimated how old. I'm pretty sure they're using development but I don't know exactly what they're doing with that system.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!
I unironically think that the oases are pretty cool but everything else is dumb and bad especially HRE provinces that look just as stupid as they did in real life.

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
I think having something to represent the Bedouins and so on in those regions would be good but Oases that let huge armies pass through are pretty dumb, there's hardly a shot of that today let alone in the 16th century.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Why not? Moses did.

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
well here's to hoping that paradox will add in the messiah trait for generals that lets their armies walk over water

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YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


M&T is compatible with 1.18, so I went ahead and took a couple of new screenshots.







e;
Forgot this


Also the country bar is super weird and not very well designed at all


e2;
Uh


e3;
Paris has the "Coastal Center of Trade" modifier.

YF-23 fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Nov 4, 2016

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