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That one seems to be getting most of the attention when there's like, six others that are equally meaningful. I was sold on it upon learning that A) it's not actually a sales tax B) all the small business owners I know are for it because they're not within $24.75 million of being subject to it.
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Wish I had some pictures, but was at my in-laws small suburban town Snohomish for Trick or Treating and all over were two sets of identical signs: Preserve Snohomish, Vote Yes on Prop 2 Vote No on Prop 2, Preserve Snohomish! Guess no matter what Snohomish is being preserved!
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Nov 2, 2016 16:36
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Hughlander posted:Wish I had some pictures, but was at my in-laws small suburban town Snohomish for Trick or Treating and all over were two sets of identical signs: That's pretty funny. I looked up Prop 2 and apparently it is to change their appointed manager/council style of government to elected mayor/council. Pretty far leap to think that either side has much to do with preserving the city.
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Hughlander posted:Wish I had some pictures, but was at my in-laws small suburban town Snohomish for Trick or Treating and all over were two sets of identical signs: "No on 97, No to Sales Tax" or "Yes on 97, Because I Love Oregon!" Strangely enough all the Yes on 97 signs are in residential areas and all the No signs are in commercial areas.
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Nov 2, 2016 16:54
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I spent years at/near minimum-wage so WA's I-1433's got my attention and thankfully polls suggest it'll pass.
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RuanGacho posted:I would be more ok with it if it was some sort of civil procedure, but as designed it basically puts the cops right back into the "you are a military force going potentially into a hot zone" This is a civil procedure, you can especially tell because the evidentiary requirement is "preponderance of the evidence" rather than "beyond a reasonable doubt". The language is very similar to existing restraining orders, and in fact was taken from protection orders taking firearms away in possible domestic violence situations. Cops are mainly focused on criminal law enforcement, but are also an arm of the civil court. Ultimately the difference between civil and criminal law in our system has more to do with who is bringing the case, and to what level they are held to as far as evidence. You are all completely right that it's ultimately tied to our lovely justice system which is rife with abuse and possible abuse, and is possibly a very dangerous mindset to have about mental health. I voted yes mainly because I weighed those problems against the hopefully bigger gain of keeping guns away from those who are suicidal. Like shootings and dumb poo poo happen, but the effect on guns on suicide is huge. But I completely get why people would not vote for this. e: I of course, can be wrong, I'm a latte socialist, not a lawyer. foobardog fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Nov 2, 2016 |
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Suicide seems like a personal choice. Perhaps we should create suicide booths. Give people more options besides guns. Just saying -if- I was suicidal and I was told to turn in my guns I'd probably just do the deed right then. This just seems to put everyone at more risk, especially cops and paranoid-suicidal type. Those who are actually not at risk and just being harassed are the only ones who will suffer when they try to get their property back. I highly doubt that will be as easy as getting them confiscated in the first place.
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My favorite approach for the No on 97 is the "it's not a constitutional amendment, so the gub'mint can spend your dollars however they want!" Because now any time something isn't specifically codified into the constitution, it's subject to the personal whim of politicians?
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Nov 2, 2016 18:59
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Thaddius the Large posted:My favorite approach for the No on 97 is the "it's not a constitutional amendment, so the gub'mint can spend your dollars however they want!" Because now any time something isn't specifically codified into the constitution, it's subject to the personal whim of politicians?
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Nov 2, 2016 19:12
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Accretionist posted:I spent years at/near minimum-wage so WA's I-1433's got my attention and thankfully polls suggest it'll pass. I like that we're going to hit $15 by 2025, but seattle's minimum appears to be growing several cents a year faster. Here's hoping the near future fixes that before the distant future has to deal with it.
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Nov 3, 2016 03:20
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I'm really glad I did my due diligence before filling out my WA ballot now, because I hadn't heard of the Mary Yu vs. David DeWolf race yet. DeWolf looks like exactly the kind of guy you don't want having any kind of legal authority.
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Wanderer posted:I'm really glad I did my due diligence before filling out my WA ballot now, because I hadn't heard of the Mary Yu vs. David DeWolf race yet. Mary Yu owns. I'm surprised you hadn't heard about her.
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Wanderer posted:I'm really glad I did my due diligence before filling out my WA ballot now, because I hadn't heard of the Mary Yu vs. David DeWolf race yet. Holy poo poo, I forgot that the Discovery Institute was still a thing.
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seiferguy posted:Mary Yu owns. I'm surprised you hadn't heard about her. Frankly, so am I. I'm not as good as keeping up with local news as I should be.
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Nov 3, 2016 20:09
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This is magical. How people affected by Measure 97 even know what Snapchat is, let alone how to use it?
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Nov 3, 2016 21:03
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I got to vote for a judge I have had to work with repeatedly and everytime that happens it's a little weird. I'm not sure how I want to vote on I-1501. I'll probably vote yes but with a lot of reservations.
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Nov 3, 2016 21:30
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So did anyone get a letter? http://www.seattletimes.com/life/pets/your-grocery-bill-may-help-king-county-track-unlicensed-pets/
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BrandorKP posted:So did anyone get a letter? I love my pug, so she's registered, licensed, and microchipped. I'm also a little paranoid!
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BrandorKP posted:So did anyone get a letter? Yeah I got one. I was wondering how they found out.
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Nov 4, 2016 03:13
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Wait you need a license if you have a cat in King county???
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Soarer posted:Wait you need a license if you have a cat in King county??? Just collecting all the names so the grabbers can find you 
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Nov 4, 2016 06:43
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Nestle is probably going to put up a bottling plant along the Columbia and I don't think they've had a bottling plant in the PNW yet. They tried in Enumclaw but eventually got told no.
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Speaking of annoying letters, the repubs are mailing people and telling them how their neighbors voted
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Classy.
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got any sevens posted:Speaking of annoying letters, the repubs are mailing people and telling them how their neighbors voted I saw a letter telling me when people voted, was there another?
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got any sevens posted:Speaking of annoying letters, the repubs are mailing people and telling them how their neighbors voted How are they getting that information?
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oxbrain posted:How are they getting that information?
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Nov 4, 2016 21:15
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In Oregon I got a booklet that says your vote is secret, but the fact you voted is not. It looked like a GOTV effort instead of anything else, but it reminded me of that. If I had to guess they have preliminary results broken up by county, and that information is (going to be) public anyway so that's probably what they're drawing from.
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computer parts posted:In Oregon I got a booklet that says your vote is secret, but the fact you voted is not. It looked like a GOTV effort instead of anything else, but it reminded me of that.
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Nov 4, 2016 21:21
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Anyone can download the WA state voter rolls, listing all WA voters, their addresses, and the last time they voted. It's a huge file, so good luck opening it without special software. Crashes excel when I've tried for work. https://www.sos.wa.gov/elections/vrdb/
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In OR your voter registration is confirmed via postcard so your loving name/address/party are visible to anybody who handles mail between Salem and you. So that's helpful.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:Anyone can download the WA state voter rolls, listing all WA voters, their addresses, and the last time they voted. It's a huge file, so good luck opening it without special software. Crashes excel when I've tried for work. Yeah, I once got to say hi to a friend with the shocking statement of "You haven't voted in four years." If you don't know that this is public knowledge, it's very surprising.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:Anyone can download the WA state voter rolls, listing all WA voters, their addresses, and the last time they voted. It's a huge file, so good luck opening it without special software. Crashes excel when I've tried for work. there are also places on the internet that have the info searchable so you can use it for skip trace to find alternate addresses for people. People who vote tend to keep their voting address up-to-date so its pretty useful.
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Doorknob Slobber posted:there are also places on the internet that have the info searchable so you can use it for skip trace to find alternate addresses for people. People who vote tend to keep their voting address up-to-date so its pretty useful. You can even look that info up on their own site as long as you have the full name and birth day of the person you're looking for. https://weiapplets.sos.wa.gov/MyVote/
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Reminder if you haven't finished your ballot yet that The Stranger's voting guide is a pretty amusing way to know who the best candidates are for minority rights, criminal justice reform and general "not a horrible person " candidates. http://www.thestranger.com/news/2016/10/18/24627137/the-strangers-endorsements-for-the-november-2016-general-election
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So apparently one of Washington's electors is saying he won't give his electoral vote to Hillary Clinton if she wins the state... I will be physically ill if this jackass gives one of my state's votes to Jill Stein or some poo poo.
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lozzle posted:So apparently one of Washington's electors is saying he won't give his electoral vote to Hillary Clinton if she wins the state...
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anthonypants posted:Seems like Hillary could get this guy's vote simply by voicing support for NoDAPL. lol
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Mrit posted:lol
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