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Apraxin posted:Why settle for locking up Crooked Hillary? Surely the Corrupt Media should also face justice for their many crimes against America: If only there were a rule to ensure that there were fairness in the media... They could even make it into a doctrine, if you will.
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Sky Shadowing posted:So, wait, when Trump was talking about Clinton's scandal being worse than Watergate, was he projecting his own bugging operation? What I find is kinda strange is that people don't seem to be noticing the parallels between the e-mail hacking and Watergate. Nixon had people break-in and bug the DNC to access private conversations. Trump encouraged the Russians to the electronic equivalent, and has repeatedly promoted the results of their work.
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Sky Shadowing posted:Sorry, I just read 'bugged office' and immediately assumed the most funny thing. not that i believe it at all but it would have roger stone's calling card on it if anyone
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Bhaal posted:I'm sure when I'm in my 60s i'll have younger people bugging their eyes out at me when I insist on writing something on ~a keyboard~ instead of just installing a brain dictation app into my cortex interface or whatever Not me. Cyborg me the gently caress up, doc, I need to download and install vodka.exe and get this party started!
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stone cold posted:Wait, is it Trump who bugged them or FBI? I thought it was FBI.... At this point, what difference does it make. 
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OddObserver posted:What I find is kinda strange is that people don't seem to be noticing the parallels between the e-mail hacking and Watergate. as someone who doesn't really know anything about watergate, was the stuff they found ever released out to the media or was the break-in the first attempt? it's beyond disgustingly irresponsible that the media reports it all as juicy gossip without saying anything about the source other than calling it "leaked emails" (which is also a terrible term seeing as how that's not what leaking means) and i have no idea if there's any precedent for it
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Junkyard Poodle posted:I've got a question for the thread on the extent of Robert Byrd's involvement in kkk/white supremacy. he was a kkk chapter leader in his youth at the beginning of his political career but over time came to renounce those views. your friend is ignorant and/or a liar
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boner confessor posted:he was a kkk chapter leader in his youth at the beginning of his political career but over time came to renounce those views. your friend is ignorant and/or a liar though it's kind of hard to see as genuine considering sociopathy is a virtue to many, many people
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Nov 4, 2016 23:12
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MJ12 posted:Basically, the Second Amendment has three competing interpretations. Thanks! That's the best explanation I've ever seen of the issue. With option 1 I'm imagining independent state armies, where the president needs to get a deal with every state to go to war, like the way European countries go to war.
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Everyone I know is asking "You think Trump might win" and every time I hear it I just want to scream. And they don't even seem to be worried while I keep fearing for the future of humanity and of my personal safety. I want off this wild ride.
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Nov 4, 2016 23:15
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Who What Now posted:Not me. Cyborg me the gently caress up, doc, I need to download and install vodka.exe and get this party started! Oh, grandpa! Vodka was slipstreamed from the Global Booze subcarrier as soon as you were within proximity of the party! Just flick your eyes up or down to select from among the 9,000 varieties. Be advised that your Basic Citizen rights do not cover automatic hangover suppression.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:it's rare, but there are some people who realize they've been a throughbred piece of poo poo and have actual remorse over it sure, but a sociopath who learns to go with the flow of society and say racism is bad even if they don't really believe it is better than a staunch, unreformed, honest racist he always was a rural white dude from the south who had regressive attitudes but at least by the end of his life he was able to say the correct things
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MJ12 posted:Basically, the Second Amendment has three competing interpretations. This is the kind of post I come to these threads to read. Thank you. It appears I'm just being inundated with commentary from low information voters and outright idiots.
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Cingulate posted:Yeah, to you I mostly wanted to say that I don't mean to say it's not a bumpy road. We had Nazi rule, WW2 and the holocaust just in the last century. Only the long-term trend is good, not all short-term trends. Reading any cohesive systemic trend at all into the vast set of unique circumstances and developments, random happenstance, tragedy, farce, etc. that comprise history is the main fallacy being attacked, yes. 'Progress' is a short-term trend; it was invented by Euros fellating themselves in the Enlightenment. Don't take this as me denying that vast advances have been made in the material prosperity of the top half of the global population, or that the codification of human rights into international politics mores, or feminism, or electricity, or whatever else exist and benefit people, that's not under contention. It's believing that they happened as part of some grand inexorable sweep of the historical sundial from BAD to GOOD. All that poo poo took work; all that poo poo continues to take work; and it's literally only going to last as long as dominant political forces a) value universal human rights, human welfare and freedoms etc. as goods and b) can deliver, which as recent times have shown is by no means unassailable or irreversible.
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Cingulate posted:posts about stuff This has literally nothing to do with societal views on minorities, or religious affiliation. The modern USA is more religious than when it was founded. Even within the past twenty years there have been large and noticeable swings in both directions regarding attitudes towards minority rights. The early 2000's had a massive downswing, and hostility towards homosexuals was the most influential and successful plank of the 2004 elections. This whole "inevitability of social progress" garbage is what tricks homosexuals into voting for republicans, and it's an incredibly toxic and self-defeating narrative. You find it in labor rights too. "Oh we don't need unions anymore because these days we just don't treat workers as bad as we used to fart fart fart fart." It's garbage. Schizotek fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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RZA Encryption posted:CelestialScribe has not posted in a month. Probated
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AceOfFlames posted:I want off this wild ride. Don't Forget You're Here Forever
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RZA Encryption posted:CelestialScribe has not posted in a month.
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isk posted:Probated Did he ever toxx?
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isk posted:Probated A fate worse than death.
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Junkyard Poodle posted:I've got a question for the thread on the extent of Robert Byrd's involvement in kkk/white supremacy. IIRC the short version is he was poo poo when he was younger, realized he was being awful and spent years/decades working to make amends and help minorities. The NAACP doesn't give high marks to ex-klansmen just because they're Democrats, which is probably what your friend is going to keep arguing they did.
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Agrajag posted:They're also dumb since guns were never taken away once in the 8 years of Obama. Well obviously it's because they wouldn't let Obama have their guns.
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I'd be extremely impressed if Trump was competent enough to actually bug the DNC (or whatever it is)
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blue squares posted:I'd be extremely impressed if Trump was competent enough to actually bug the DNC (or whatever it is)
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OptimusShr posted:Did he ever toxx? None of these clowns ever toxx, then they'd have to ask their mom for 
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Surprising no one, Christie's off the trail for Trump: https://twitter.com/steinhauserNH1/status/794665602707259392
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AceOfFlames posted:Everyone I know is asking "You think Trump might win" and every time I hear it I just want to scream. And they don't even seem to be worried while I keep fearing for the future of humanity and of my personal safety. I want off this wild ride. 2012 was a closer race at this point in time, Clinton's lead over Trump has been more consistent than Obama's over Romney.
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isk posted:Probated http://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php?userid=130818
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+1 for Killary in Iowa. I'm super excited to have my vote cancelled out by some hick in the western part of the state that thinks Steve King isn't racist enough.
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TheBigAristotle posted:None of these clowns ever toxx, then they'd have to ask their mom for i toxxed for trump but it was an accident
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:He's actually off probation tomorrow!
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This is great http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/01/opinion/voting-suppression-videogame.html   
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:He's actually off probation tomorrow! gently caress, it's gonna be like Flag Boy, huh?
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aBagorn posted:She takes her tea with milk. Clearly she intends to destroy the constitution and Declariation of Independence and bring back British rule God save the Queen if she had to become your head of state at her age
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boner confessor posted:he was a kkk chapter leader in his youth at the beginning of his political career but over time came to renounce those views. your friend is ignorant and/or a liar I figure he's a liar. He's a veteran and retired pilot who believes hrc is directly responsible Ben Q Ghazi because we should have sent some F-whatever's to buzz the compound and that would have saved everyone despite the fact the known positions of all our fleet/aircraft would have put such a movement in the time frame of several hours. Thanks yo
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HookedOnChthonics posted:Reading any cohesive systemic trend at all into the vast set of unique circumstances and developments, random happenstance, tragedy, farce, etc. that comprise history is the main fallacy being attacked, yes. 'Progress' is a short-term trend; it was invented by Euros fellating themselves in the Enlightenment. Schizotek posted:The long term trends are good for metrics like life expectancy and average wealth because technology as a trend increases. Cingulate posted:Of course. Nothing about this is inherent, for free, or guaranteed. And of course not enough, either. But are you saying that this is where the moral outrage (don't mean to use the term to belittle anyone, it's just the best words I can think of) comes from - that if I had said the above more, and earlier, it would have not been as controversial, morally speaking? I'm not wondering about people who think I'm empirically wrong, but about those who think I'm stating something morally abhorrent.
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Apraxin posted:Why settle for locking up Crooked Hillary? Surely the Corrupt Media should also face justice for their many crimes against America: Unironically, by in large, the press has been absolutely derelict of duty this season. There has been some very good reporting this season but sensationalist headlines and a the overwhelming focus on Trump's spectacle over substance and facts has horrifying consequences. Trump's politifact rating is in the toilet vs Hillary's objectively decent rating however the recent ABC tracking poll has voter trustworthiness scale at 46:38 in favor of Trump. Obviously a republican congressional investigation into the "corrupt media" won't be held in good faith but it still pisses me off.
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OddObserver posted:What I find is kinda strange is that people don't seem to be noticing the parallels between the e-mail hacking and Watergate. If Trump was a sitting president like Nixon was, and we weren't already in a bombed out fascist wasteland that Trump promises, I think people would care more. However, he doesn't have the power yet so people (on his side) ignore the parallels. Nixon didn't personally request it, if I'm not mistaken, but his lackeys did do it which is why he fell from it. Trump's team didn't actually perpetrate the act he just capitalized on it. However, I feel what Trump did following was worse than Watergate since he told the perpetrators "Yo, My Russian Comrades! How bout you do that again and grab me more dirt!" If Trump was a normal candidate he'd be sunk for that, but Trump has no decency and runs a cult rather than a campaign. Supporters I've talked to respond with "It's not Trump's fault so it's not equivalent!" These people want power and will break whatever laws they want to get it; booby trapped election signs, occupying federal buildings, voter fraud, and so on. They are committed to partisanship to such an extent that laws are secondary and only important when the otherside breaks them. Why would they give a poo poo about outside groups committing crimes against their opponents?
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