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finally a hero i can fight better with my lovely aim!
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Foxhound posted:Sneaking up on a 200HP support, unloading a clip in their head and instantly teleport to safety doesn't sound very fun tbh. 
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Nov 5, 2016 01:56
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You can hear and see Tracer coming from a mile away though.
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Nov 5, 2016 01:59
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does sombra's stealth also silence her footsteps
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Nov 5, 2016 02:00
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Kai Tave posted:You've just basically described Tracer. Tracer can't sneak into the back line while invisible, prevent healers from using their abilities, easily kill them and then teleport away.
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Nov 5, 2016 02:05
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^^^I think the actual impact of Sombra's invisibility is going to wind up being overstated because Tracer and Genji both pretty handily demonstrate that you don't need literal invisibility to repeatedly sneak around to someone's backline and gank their healers.Foxhound posted:You can hear and see Tracer coming from a mile away though. Somehow this doesn't stop good Tracer players from merrily mulching supports though, nor does "well you can see the Tracer coming" seem to be that much of a balm to those who routinely find themselves frustrated by her. The point is that if your concern is an offense hero that's good at quickly swooping in and ganking supports, that ship has long since sailed several times over. Also to be honest, and I realize I'm as much in the dark as anyone else re: how Sombra actually plays, from watching people at Blizzcon play her it seems like if your primary goal is to murder the gently caress out of the other team that Tracer is still going to be the better choice. Kai Tave fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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Nov 5, 2016 02:06
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Ehud posted:Tracer can't sneak into the back line while invisible, prevent healers from using their abilities, easily kill them and then teleport away. If your supports have so little protection that sombra gets in los of them to hack them (which can be interrupted by shooting her) and then shoots them in peace, a more damaging flanker could use their mobility to get in there and just straight up murder them though?
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Nov 5, 2016 02:11
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VoLaTiLe posted:However with her being DPS I'll probably never get to play her because she will get slam picked for ftfy It's a class that can cloak, counter ults, deny health boxes, see through walls, and has an excellent escape tool. If you don't have a $2500 computer, you'll never get to select her.
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Nov 5, 2016 02:15
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Thor-Stryker posted:ftfy Until the inevitable backlash when it turns out Sombra isn't as good as everyone thinks she is and then everyone spends the entire game bitching about Sombra mains and reporting them for griefing.
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Nov 5, 2016 02:18
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Sombra does a lot less less DPS than Tracer but can shoot forever. Translocator lasts 15 seconds and then has a 6 second cool down when used. The beacon cannot be destroyed. It dispels discord on yourself when you teleport. Not sure if it dispels other debuffs. It's your only real getaway tool and also your vertical mobility tool. Stealth takes like 1 second to begin, and takes another second or so to exit before you can shoot or hack. I forget the duration and cooldown. Stealth doesn't last too long and the cooldown isn't long either. You can be shot out of it as it starts up so it's not a good getaway tool if you're already under fire. Hacking takes a second but is interrupted by damage. 12 second cooldown regardless of hacking a medkit or player. EMP kills blue health shields (Zen, Zarya, Symmetra) and should also delete Lucio sound barrier shields. When hacked, you can't do anything except left click. Tl;Dr she's brutal if you can get clutch hacks and ganks on low HP players due to her wall hack. But she has way less actual damage output than any other offense character. novaSphere fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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Nov 5, 2016 02:20
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Stealth cooldown is 6 seconds.
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Nov 5, 2016 02:30
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fadam posted:She's a better costume and some lightning attacks away from just being a purple Laua fam. It's shameless  ^this does not look like sombra though tbf this  is her vs. overwatch meta as soon as she's released LazyMaybe fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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Nov 5, 2016 02:38
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Bogart posted:We've literally not seen this character actually played in an actual game environment. And yet: goons already whining.
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Nov 5, 2016 02:39
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Is there a sound cue when Sombra drops out of stealth? That's the kind of thing that would trigger the same panic response as angry Japanese yelling.
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Nov 5, 2016 02:43
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Mokinokaro posted:The ult will be made or broken by the range.
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Nov 5, 2016 02:43
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rumble in the bunghole posted:
McCree is a cowboy he's not important to anything in 2192 or whenever this is
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Nov 5, 2016 02:49
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AndyElusive posted:If the complaining going on in this thread is indicative of the complaining going on in Reddit or the Blizzforums based on footage of a guy schooling a bunch of newbies then what are the chances of us seeing Sombroke getting a day 1 nerf? CJacobs posted:Who gives a poo poo? If that happens just leave. Why would anyone want hero stacking, is the better question? The first time you do it it's sorta funny and then you realize it just kinda sucks LazyMaybe fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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Nov 5, 2016 02:50
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IronicDongz posted:And also cast time. If it has a long-ish animation before finishing it will be hard to get off without team support. It's nearly instant and hits a pretty large area. The gameplay trailer adds drama with one of her highlight intros. Remember, it does no damage on its own (unless you count shield damage, because it leaves Zen with 50 hp) so it needs team support regardless.
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Nov 5, 2016 03:03
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IronicDongz posted:
lmao at the thought this is "a better costume."
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Nov 5, 2016 03:05
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SFV character design is embarrassing as gently caress.
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Nov 5, 2016 03:08
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ToastyPotato posted:SFV character design is embarrassing as gently caress. Japan
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Nov 5, 2016 03:29
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interesting that they thought torb needed another nerf
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Nov 5, 2016 03:31
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spoilers for tomorrow's world cup grand finals: south korea will shut out russia without losing a map. I'm here to save anyone that hadn't been watching but were still curious from wasting their time
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Nov 5, 2016 03:32
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What's with South Korea being so good at Overwatch
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Nov 5, 2016 03:35
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Help Im Alive posted:What's with South Korea being so good at Overwatch
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Nov 5, 2016 03:36
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well a few things first off, they got a way better team voted in. presumably because the people that voted actually cared about them winning, rather than just getting their favorite streamer on the team or because they'd never looked into it at all and just went for who they recognized. second, they didn't go into it just expecting to win like the favorite euro teams (sweden and finland were acting like they were obviously gonna be in the finals no matter what the whole tournament). third, they probably actually practiced as a team outside of matches, which I really really doubt any of the western teams did. amd finally, apparently the koreans study the western teams hard so they knew what to expect a lot better than anyone else going in. they just wanted it more like it was the same with rogue in china. they absolutely expected to roll the asian teams and the koreans caught them off guard, but in the grand finals rogue crushed them. you don't get that chance here tho and even the best teams are pretty weird for the west
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Nov 5, 2016 03:41
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I thought to myself "Hahaha! She fucks Reinhardt. Finally that fun-murdering bastard gets his comeuppance" And then I thought about her kit and Reinhardt's kit and, how, even if she successfully hacks him, he'll just flail blindly at her three times and kill her. And I died a little inside.
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Nov 5, 2016 04:43
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Veryslightlymad posted:I thought to myself "Hahaha! She fucks Reinhardt. Finally that fun-murdering bastard gets his comeuppance" That's what the translocater is for.
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Nov 5, 2016 04:46
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Yeah, apparently the Korean team are all in the top 1-3 ranks for their classes. Their coach also did his research for the last three spots instead of selecting YouTube rejects like all the other countries.
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Nov 5, 2016 04:46
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Also, I find it odd that people are calling her Tracer + before she's even truly out, when it seems like Tracer might be one of the most effective counters to her in the game. Namely, she can spam a lot of bullets in a lot of directions really, really fast, and it seems like a tracer that finds herself hacked by anything other than the ult is a very bad Tracer EDIT Also, I think she'll be better than expected against Mei. Shoot a translocator behind her, shoot her until she cryofreezes, hack her, now she's not healed and can't wall off to escape, if she starts to freeze you, teleport to your pod and then finish her. I think she has the potential to give Mei fits. Veryslightlymad fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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Nov 5, 2016 05:14
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Veryslightlymad posted:Also, I find it odd that people are calling her Tracer + before she's even truly out, when it seems like Tracer might be one of the most effective counters to her in the game. Tracer shouldn't really be spamming wildly though. Like you can do it but it's really not very effective and sort of a big waste of time that's likely to leave you needing to reload at a bad moment, sort of like people who try to snipe with Reaper's shotguns. Probably the best "can really ruin this character's day easily" counter to Sombra looks to be Winston, who has an area-effect weapon that can knock her out of cloaking and hacking, after which Sombra's only hope is that her translocator is pre-placed and still active or, I guess, that she's camped out on a hacked healthpack station. I mean I agree that she doesn't really look like "Tracer but better" either, Tracer's ability to blink around mid-fight and high burst DPS seem like she's still going to be the queen of the teleporting offensive support-murderers.
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Nov 5, 2016 05:20
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You can't hack her during ice block.
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Nov 5, 2016 05:21
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Tracer's not going to be an ideal "spy checker" because despite the spread of her guns, her clip empties so fast. Winston (continuous auto-targeting damage) and D.Va (huge spread with infinite clip) will be much better at it.
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Nov 5, 2016 05:22
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Supercar Gautier posted:Tracer's not going to be an ideal "spy checker" because despite the spread of her guns, her clip empties so fast. plus roadhog's hook and cook is going to be as effective for her as it is for any 200hp hero and below. if she cloaks up behind him she can probably get a hack off but then she's in shotgun range of the roadhog anyhow.
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Nov 5, 2016 05:31
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rumble in the bunghole posted:
Anyone pointed out the guardian omnic connected to Rein in the top left?
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Nov 5, 2016 05:33
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Cowcaster posted:plus roadhog's hook and cook is going to be as effective for her as it is for any 200hp hero and below. if she cloaks up behind him she can probably get a hack off but then she's in shotgun range of the roadhog anyhow. Yeah, my guess is "underestimated the effective range of Roadhog's hook and/or M2 shot" is going to be the cause of death for a lot of imprudent Sombras in the days to come.
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Nov 5, 2016 05:34
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Veryslightlymad posted:Also, I find it odd that people are calling her Tracer + before she's even truly out, when it seems like Tracer might be one of the most effective counters to her in the game. I don't think hacking other players is going to be a significant part of her kit, it looks like one of those things that you'll only pull off against players who are so much worse than you that you would kill them anyway.
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Nov 5, 2016 05:40
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Papercut posted:I don't think hacking other players is going to be a significant part of her kit, it looks like one of those things that you'll only pull off against players who are so much worse than you that you would kill them anyway. I wouldn't go that far. It's like a mini-Deadeye; you need a few seconds of distraction to pull it off. You're not likely to win a 1v1 with it but that's not necessarily the point.
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Nov 5, 2016 05:44
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especially considering how grossly effective her hacking of medkits seems to be for the moment, using it on players looks like the less effective proposition provided they tune the medkit thing down (which i can't imagine they won't) making it a hero silence thing seems like a good idea
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I wouldn't go that far. It's like a mini-Deadeye; you need a few seconds of distraction to pull it off. You're not likely to win a 1v1 with it but that's not necessarily the point. Yeah, just the threat of being hacked is enough to force, say, Reinhardt to reposition to focus his shield on you, leaving him exposed to your team. Good Rein players are able to ignore someone plinking them with damage in favor of keeping the shield pointed where it needs to be, but Sombra forces the issue...you either turn to block her hack or you lose the shield (and your other abilities) altogether.
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