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It seems thread favourite Scott Ludlum is taking a break to deal with depression: Not surprising seeing the stuff he has to deal with on a daily basis, I guess.
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DancingShade posted:This. Yeah this is pretty much it. There's quite a number of factors that roll up into that summary of "can make money in Aus, but we make more elsewhere" but you can more or less attribute it to two main categories: 1. Proper salaries, benefits, hours, entitlements etc for employees. This is arguably the biggest factor if only because it's so easy to quantify when doing cost/"benefit" analysis - you can either pay Mick and Robbo $80k/pa each to do a job for you, or pay Rakesh and Sourabh 50c equivalent, maybe throw in a promise not to weld the fire escapes shut as a sweetener, to do at least a good enough job instead. HR/Finance drones can do the maths on that real quick and it makes your commercial KPIs look really good as a senior manager so you land that sweet job based in Singapore, at which point FYGM becomes your guiding philosophy if it wasn't already, and you can spend more time pondering the really important things in life, like "do I have room at my Swiss chalet to build an airstrip?" Who gives a gently caress if Mick and Robbo are now on the dole and their family spirals into poverty, they should have just played rugby at the right school, gently caress em 2. Greater regulatory standards - the kicker here is Australia has comparatively effective oversight and severe(ish) penalties to force companies to spend the money to ensure regulatory compliance. This can have very significant ramifications in ways you wouldn't necessarily think obvious if you're not in that line of work - e.g. if you need to make some fairly minor fixes/upgrades to some old plant and equipment to maintain availability and efficiency of production, you'll often be forced to bring the entire piece of equipment/plant up to spec/standards, not just the components you're replacing or repairing, which can often be extremely expensive to do in one hit. So instead that just has the effect of companies delaying any expenditure until the equipment fails catastrophically, or running lots of really inefficient equipment which has associated opportunity costs etc. Whereas in other parts of the world where most of these jobs get sent, you just do whatever the gently caress you want and at WORST you'll have to pay a pathetically small fine if someone gets electrocuted/crushed/blown the gently caress up (if you can't just bribe the regulators in the first place). You can throw in government subsidies/tariffs or lack thereof into the mix on top of that Basically what I'm saying is Vote Trump and make Whyalla great again
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Nov 4, 2016 08:20
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Resident Idiot posted:It seems thread favourite Scott Ludlum is taking a break to deal with depression: A real shame to lose one of the few people with integrity and work ethic in the senate, even for a while
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Nov 4, 2016 08:37
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The 18c case against those Queensland uni students was thrown out earlier today. Only took three years and probably a good half a million dollars in legal fees. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...103-gshurj.html
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Nov 4, 2016 09:35
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Nov 4, 2016 10:42
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Resident Idiot posted:Not surprising seeing the stuff he has to deal with on a daily basis, I guess. Night Shade posted:The 18c case against those Queensland uni students was thrown out earlier today. Only took three years and probably a good half a million dollars in legal fees. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...103-gshurj.html
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Nov 4, 2016 11:58
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Graic Gabtar posted:You said, "I guess." but seriously, that's not a great comment. I agree. I need to be able to call Aborigines black cunts.
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Nov 4, 2016 13:50
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Night Shade posted:The 18c case against those Queensland uni students was thrown out earlier today. Only took three years and probably a good half a million dollars in legal fees. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...103-gshurj.html 18c working as intended, or more correctly, 18D. But you almost have to admire the flexibility of racists to use a failed case to their advantage. How ironic that Tim Wilson MP pipes up when Tim Wilson HRC took the money and kept quiet.
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Nov 4, 2016 14:02
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https://theaustralianatnewscorpau.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/prior-v-queensland-university-of-technology-ors-no-2-2016-fcca-2853.pdf here is the judgement if you want a squizz
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Snod. posted:https://theaustralianatnewscorpau.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/prior-v-queensland-university-of-technology-ors-no-2-2016-fcca-2853.pdf quote:He logged onto his Facebook account and accessed a “Facebook page”  Strange that the guy who made an obviously racist joke about Aborigines being criminals didn't get involved in the complaint.
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Nov 4, 2016 18:28
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round and round the plughole we go https://newmatilda.com/2016/11/05/turns-out-being-in-hospital-doesnt-excuse-you-from-work-for-the-dole/
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Nov 4, 2016 22:48
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starkebn posted:round and round the plughole we go quote:“I would much rather be homeless and have no money that be on this any longer. Thank you.”
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Nov 4, 2016 23:38
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Snod. posted:https://theaustralianatnewscorpau.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/prior-v-queensland-university-of-technology-ors-no-2-2016-fcca-2853.pdf Cheers, I was having trouble finding that. ewe2 posted:18c working as intended, or more correctly, 18D. But you almost have to admire the flexibility of racists to use a failed case to their advantage. How ironic that Tim Wilson MP pipes up when Tim Wilson HRC took the money and kept quiet. From what I read 18d didn't even apply, the case didn't pass the 18c bar of offending a reasonable person. Still three years of bullshit to have a case summarily dismissed.
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Nov 4, 2016 23:44
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starkebn posted:round and round the plughole we go jfc that is disgusting. FWIW I'm currently on a medical exemption myself. My JSA is ok by these standards, yet didn't think to tell me I was also exempt from going to their appointments as well as not job searching, so didn't I feel the fool for turning up in case I got breached. You cannot trust the system to not gently caress you over, it's that simple. I've been waiting for months to get a reassessment interview. Night Shade posted:From what I read 18d didn't even apply, the case didn't pass the 18c bar of offending a reasonable person. Yeah I just like hammering on 18D because the bigots don't want to acknowledge it. But its all beside the point, the legal system doesn't work for anyone who doesn't have the bucks and the contacts. Like unemployed and disabled people.
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Nov 4, 2016 23:55
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Night Shade posted:Cheers, I was having trouble finding that. won't somebody stand up for the racists! 
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Nov 4, 2016 23:56
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starkebn posted:round and round the plughole we go It's the same loving people! Every time a story like this comes out, absolutely without fail, it's Max Employment!
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Nov 5, 2016 00:03
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Birdstrike posted:won't somebody stand up for the racists! Itt calling out segregation is racist
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starkebn posted:round and round the plughole we go Night Shade posted:Itt calling out segregation is racist The original complain was vexatious and the level of obvious racism on the social media of the group involved was stark. Clearly the 'reasonable' Australian is OK with that.
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Nov 5, 2016 00:20
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Night Shade posted:Itt calling out segregation is racist ah, the famed "affirmative action is discrimination" gambit
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Nov 5, 2016 00:28
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Bleh can't multi quote in awful app. Cartoon - no I'm being deliberately disingenuous. Edit: I don't agree with what was posted but I don't think that it, aside from the obviously way out of line post that was shown to be from a fake account, was any worse than the shitposting banter that goes on right here, and certainly not deserving of three years spent trying to extract 100k each out of uni students. But being disingenuous goes both ways mate - the reasonable person test in 18c is any reasonable person of the allegedly vilified group, not all Australians. I haven't seen any of the other posts from the Facebook group so I can't speak to them, just what was part of the suit. Birdstrike posted:ah, the famed "affirmative action is discrimination" gambit Yep that's what was posted. Night Shade fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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Nov 5, 2016 00:52
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Maybe if the suit had complained about some of that obvious racism you mentioned instead of a few minor shitposts it would have made it to trial.
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Birdstrike posted:affirmative action is discrimination Actually this part is true, to the point where it's acknowledged in the discrimination acts and you can apply for an exemption to put affirmative actions in place. But if you don't get that exemption first you're legally, although not morally, as guilty of discrimination as someone putting WHITES ONLY over a water fountain. Whether affirmative action is a bad thing is a very different question.
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Nov 5, 2016 02:11
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when you have to make a triple post because you thought of a hot take an hour later
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Nov 5, 2016 02:18
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Nov 5, 2016 02:18
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also i took my kid to a swimming lesson between posts so yanno
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Night Shade posted:also i took my kid to a swimming lesson between posts so yanno gotta get the most out of those visitation rights
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Nov 5, 2016 02:35
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The "Well we may say" Podcast hasn't updated the past two weeks. I hope Jeremy Seer is alright
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Nov 5, 2016 02:41
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You Am I posted:The "Well we may say" Podcast hasn't updated the past two weeks. I hope Jeremy Seer is alright I'm expecting it some time today, track https://twitter.com/wellmaywesay I suspect this podcast won't be as clockwork as somethingwonky, it's more guest-orientated and less frantic. edit: It's up now! ewe2 fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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ewe2 posted:I'm expecting it some time today, track https://twitter.com/wellmaywesay I suspect this podcast won't be as clockwork as somethingwonky, it's more guest-orientated and less frantic. I was trying to find the twitter, as it isn't linked on their site, and had no luck finding it
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Nov 5, 2016 03:20
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I went to my very first protest march today. Of course I was proselytised to by a Red Flag distributor the whole time.
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Nov 5, 2016 06:36
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Daily Telegraph posted:FORMER prime minister Tony Abbott has made a less than graceful arrival at the Castle Cove fire command centre where he’s helping fight an out-of-control blaze.
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Nov 5, 2016 07:13
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A piano was then dropped on him by accident. A clown car crashed into the piano. 12 out of the 76 clowns died trying to escape the car.
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Nov 5, 2016 07:22
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Do it again and get it on video this time
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Nov 5, 2016 07:25
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There was a protest today up in my neck of the woods about those loving brown country shoppers stealing homes from the elderly. Bendigo bus co was bringing in people angry that "refugees" were going to live nearly 200kms away from them, in newly renovated unused elderly care houses. Lots of lies about how they're kicking elderly people out to make room, how it's costing the aged care facility money, how they aren't real refugees and are just looking for a nice new country to convert to Sharia law, etc. Protesters ended up numbering ~70, counter-protesters was ~200. Maybe it's not all complete poo poo. 
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Nov 5, 2016 07:48
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quote:When approached by media for comment, Abbott said “I can’t, I’m operational”. Operational matters can't comment.
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Nov 5, 2016 07:55
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Korgan posted:Maybe it's not all complete poo poo. Un Australian
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Nov 5, 2016 08:00
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Abbott is allergic to dignity.
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well ain't this some poo poo http://theaimn.com/bob-days-tangled-web/
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:well ain't this some poo poo http://theaimn.com/bob-days-tangled-web/ A legit good read right there.
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The kind of story the MSM could have easily done but will now try and take credit for.
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