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My wife has discovered the power of quesopioids on Twitter today: It's screencapped since we expect they'll edit the tweet to keep the conspiracy on the down-low.
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You mean people making chemicals from other chemicals often consult papers or texts which illustrate processes for how one might make chemicals from other chemicals.   What do they propose? Making pharmaceutical patents secret? Making scientific papers only available to a select few? Banning anyone who isn't a chemistry student from buying a chemistry textbook? (I wonder if they know who often does that poo poo) Those are all awful ideas, up there with Texas requiring a permit for any glassware or apparatus that performs vacuum filtration or separation. 
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Guavanaut posted:You mean people making chemicals from other chemicals often consult papers or texts which illustrate processes for how one might make chemicals from other chemicals. The article mostly goes into the opioid crisis in America. It's a Big Deal, most of this stuff is far less safe than heroin (which is saying a lot). RC opioids are not good for anyone, and in this case the DEA is right to crack down on them as hard as possible. 
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Hurt Whitey Maybe posted:The article mostly goes into the opioid crisis in America. It's a Big Deal, most of this stuff is far less safe than heroin (which is saying a lot). RC opioids are not good for anyone, and in this case the DEA is right to crack down on them as hard as possible.  clickbait headline wants to imply, and more open access to academic knowledge is an important thing to push for in and of itself.It seems like the very reason that they've come a part of the street drug network rather than something that only zoo veterinarians knew about and handled with trepidation is precisely due to the DEA cracking down on everything else as hard as possible, rather than considering other tactics like OTC naloxone, heroin maintenance clinics, clean rooms, lighter restrictions on the safer opiates, or tackling the social alienation that leads to addiction in the first place. It's certainly not the fault of chemistry papers that have been around since the 70s. I notice in Canada at least they're back to blaming China again this time around. 
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The opioid epidemic can be traced back to pharmaceutical opioids being over prescribed and when the scripts run out and patients cant get another (or stop feeling their meds due to sky high tolerance) they go into withdrawal and start to seek this stuff. And theres no support system because the US healthcare system is unmitigatedy poo poo. Higher demand for illicit opioids means either that less experienced/no experience heroin cookers get in on it and/or the current ones start cutting corners, leading to more highly unsafe, unknown strength product on the streets. For every high profile, over reported RC opioid death there are probably a hundred more people dying off regular old heroin.  -Diamorphine, aka heroin Anyways on the chemistry of them: its piss easy, lab grade purity chemicals are easy to get, especially acids and solvents, and the reagents required are hella common, precursors as easy as grabbing OTC codeine and doing some extraction, Opioid chemistry is very well figured out and high yield processes for common opioids are just as common. Restricting any access to this kind of knowledge is entirely the wrongest way to go about solving this. Honestly id rather them getting access to proper and proven chemical processes than some meth-style homebrew tek.
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I can't tell if you guys are messing with me. The article they linked from that header was about Arkansas claiming to have invented queso. WSJ mixed up their news topics. More pictures of apparent opioids: 
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:More pictures of apparent opioids:  Unrelated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwsQ_5Wm4oo
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Guavanaut posted:See if Texas hadn't banned scientific glassware they might have invented it first. 
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Anyways on the chemistry of them: its piss easy, lab grade purity chemicals are easy to get, especially acids and solvents, and the reagents required are hella common, precursors as easy as grabbing OTC codeine and doing some extraction, All the various Paladin Press style weapons manuals out there would probably set a precedent on first amendment grounds anyways. 
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 Apart from countless battles and skirmishes in which the Polish cavalry units fought dismounted, there were 16 confirmed[4] cavalry charges during the 1939 war. Contrary to common belief, most of them were successful.
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Somewhere at home there is a photo of my father getting the poo poo kicked out of him by a police officer in 1981. He was part of a march to protest a South African rugby tour. This is not it but it's pretty close. Western governments vs indigenous populations. Going at it for centuries. 
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C.M. Kruger posted:All the various Paladin Press style weapons manuals out there would probably set a precedent on first amendment grounds anyways. This is a bad thing, especially for students/academics in the developing world and for people working outside of institutional academia. 
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https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/794941635931099136 https://twitter.com/docrocktex26/status/794953184280244224 MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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Guavanaut posted:This is a bad thing, especially for students/academics in the developing world and for people working outside of institutional academia.  Alexandra Elbakyan, the neuroscience grad student from Kazakhstan who founded sci-hub, which uses proxies to scrape research papers for free access to anyone who wants to read it. Currently under attempted litigation from Elsevier, who aren't having much luck because, well, she's somewhere in Kazakhstan. I have precisely zero sympathy for the publishers that want $50 per article where you can't even tell if it's going to be useful or not from reading the abstract, and none of the money goes to the actual researchers. The whole world of academic publishing is hosed up.
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Pinch Me Im Meming posted:
The police are really the underdogs when you think about it. The aren't even using live ammunition. 
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Rigged Death Trap posted:The opioid epidemic can be traced back to pharmaceutical opioids being over prescribed and when the scripts run out and patients cant get another (or stop feeling their meds due to sky high tolerance) they go into withdrawal and start to seek this stuff. And theres no support system because the US healthcare system is unmitigatedy poo poo. Higher demand for illicit opioids means either that less experienced/no experience heroin cookers get in on it and/or the current ones start cutting corners, leading to more highly unsafe, unknown strength product on the streets. I understand leaving it out because this is the picture thread, but the war in Afghanistan and the flood gates opening for poppy farmers, leading to highly potent and abundant (cheap) heroin coming into the states at the same time the pharmaceutical and pill mill crackdowns started happening really made for the perfect storm. 
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But it doesn't go through Standing Rock. Unless you want to open up the1851 laramie treaty argument  And keep in mind: there's already a pipeline that goes about the same route. It's natural gas (Northern Border pipeline in the lower center of the image) instead of crude, but it will still mess with your water. And FYI this image is an old one back from 2014 so it's not about DAPL, just a "Dakota Pipeline".  "The Dakota Access pipeline uses a nearly identical route as the natural gas pipeline to cross Lake Oahe near the Standing Rock reservation. The company did consider — but did not propose — deviating from the natural gas route, through a crossing of the Missouri River north of Bismarck, and about 50 miles upstream of the current location. But the Corps said in an environmental review that the crossing wasn't viable since it was more than 10 miles longer and required crossing more water, wetlands and real estate, and posed a potential threat to Bismarck's water supply." From http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/dakota-access-pipeline-move-43266290 And less than lethal rounds are totally safe! Just ask the people in kashmir! http://www.npr.org/2016/09/15/494127961/indian-police-injure-thousands-of-kashmiri-protesters-with-pellet-guns
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Brass Key posted:
Yeah journal publishers can get hosed. Researchers find funding - often public money - for their research, then either submit papers for free or even have to pay to do so, the reviewers work for free, often the editors work for free, and then the publishers charge out the nose to sell the results back to the research community and the people who paid for it in the first place. The entire industry, including open access journals, is a mess and sci-hub (and to an extent arXiv) has done more to further modern science as a whole than almost anything I can think of in the last five years. Unrelated: https://twitter.com/LondonerAlex/status/793746104340869120
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Silento Boborachi posted:And keep in mind: there's already a pipeline that goes about the same route. It's natural gas (Northern Border pipeline in the lower center of the image) instead of crude, but it will still mess with your water. And FYI this image is an old one back from 2014 so it's not about DAPL, just a "Dakota Pipeline". I don't have much knowledge about pipeline infrastructure, but a quick googling suggests that while natural gas well failures can contaminate ground water, I'm not finding anything that says natural gas pipeline failures can cause ground contamination. Which makes sense to me, because natural gas pipeline failures tend to do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSCz-35M9hA Whereas oil pipeline failures tend to do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mskhvWC8cKw
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Freakazoid_ posted:I don't have much knowledge about pipeline infrastructure, but a quick googling suggests that while natural gas well failures can contaminate ground water, I'm not finding anything that says natural gas pipeline failures can cause ground contamination. Which makes sense to me, because natural gas pipeline failures tend to do this: ugh,thats what happens when you move to the middle of nowhere suburbs where oil is at better off stayin in the city https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZORzsubQA_M
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Berlin subway: https://twitter.com/zarahsultana/status/765664301961121792
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gently caress bono no doubt but this is some transphobic poo poo. caitlyn jenner & laverne cox are women. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgI0F1Vhx9o&t=88s I wonder what she thinks about the "villain" being portrayed as the classically decadent bisexual.
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https://twitter.com/thatbloodyMikey/status/795055000208687104 one more https://twitter.com/pourmecoffee/status/795288082195025920 pillsburysoldier fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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For whom Germans would vote (third option is "none of the above") 
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That last point. "I don't get that question much lately."  
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Freakazoid_ posted:I don't have much knowledge about pipeline infrastructure, but a quick googling suggests that while natural gas well failures can contaminate ground water, I'm not finding anything that says natural gas pipeline failures can cause ground contamination. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-gas_condensate So while a major transmission line should be pretty "dry" i.e. any liquids that would condense out of the gas stream should have by that point, there is always some that's still in the lines. So the gas itself (basically methane) will just try to get to the surface anyway it can, but the heavier junk hydrocarbons still in the mix are going to fall out into the soil, groundwater, surface water, etc. Crude oil will impact soil far more than natural gas, but when it comes to water, what gets dissolved into the water column is fair game to all hydrocarbon sources. At least the bulk of crude oil has the decency to float on top where it can be skimmed off. Water just has this annoying habit of picking poo poo up is my point I guess. In happier news, the Mandan, Arikara, and Hidatsa languages are undergoing revitalization projects! With the population loss and the role of residential/boarding schools, I had heard that there was basically only one person left that could speak Mandan fluently as their native language. But now there are textbooks, various classes, even free apps for iOS/android!  Here's to hoping that, with the growth in technology supporting less common languages, some of these points will move into the safe category (from the language conservancy website) http://www.languageconservancy.org/understanding-the-issue/what-is-language-loss/ 
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