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This is pretty neat. Are all these scenes on some special dvd or something?
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Baronjutter posted:This is pretty neat. Are all these scenes on some special dvd or something?
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Nov 4, 2016 17:56
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david_a posted:It's on the Blu-Ray, which I think is only available as a multi-format release with a DVD copy as well. Right they're called Blu-Ray now. They're all just CD's with videos on them to me. I'm such a god drat media format grandpa.
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Nov 4, 2016 18:41
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making him just a zombie was probably the dumbest thing in the movie.
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Nov 4, 2016 18:52
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Groovelord Neato posted:making him just a zombie was probably the dumbest thing in the movie. While I agree that the design itself was not as interesting as the alternate version, I thought the makeup effects and the creepy unnatural movements worked really well. I'm not an anti-CGI person, but in this case I do think the alternate scene loses a lot of physicality compared to the one where it was a real guy on set.
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Nov 4, 2016 18:57
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One of the reasons they went with what's on the movie is that Ridley felt the actor got totally lost under the CGI effects. Also, I'm not sure if the mutated version effects were 100% finished and polished, but they are a bit more noticeably artificial in motion than the other one.
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Nov 4, 2016 20:26
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Baronjutter posted:This is pretty neat. Are all these scenes on some special dvd or something? A four disc collectors set, yes. With a 3 hour making of that is pretty great.
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Nov 4, 2016 20:59
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david_a posted:One of the reasons they went with what's on the movie is that Ridley felt the actor got totally lost under the CGI effects. Also, I'm not sure if the mutated version effects were 100% finished and polished, but they are a bit more noticeably artificial in motion than the other one. I never thought about it before but I guess with the CGI version it would be possible for a portion of the audience to not even realize what's going on in that scene? Like, they say the name "Fifield" at some point in the scene, but would the average person remember who Fifield is without seeing his face(and probably more importantly, his hair)?
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Nov 4, 2016 21:04
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Basebf555 posted:I never thought about it before but I guess with the CGI version it would be possible for a portion of the audience to not even realize what's going on in that scene? Like, they say the name "Fifield" at some point in the scene, but would the average person remember who Fifield is without seeing his face(and probably more importantly, his hair)?
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Nov 4, 2016 21:42
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Basebf555 posted:I never thought about it before but I guess with the CGI version it would be possible for a portion of the audience to not even realize what's going on in that scene? Like, they say the name "Fifield" at some point in the scene, but would the average person remember who Fifield is without seeing his face(and probably more importantly, his hair)? I agree with this and also honestly the design looks really stupid and like video game-like to me. I don't mean in terms of the CG being bad but like, it looks sort of over designed? Like it's such a deliberately "cool" monster design to me, I don't know how to talk about art design stuff sorry. You can see it in action very very very briefly in some of the trailers for Prometheus but I realize that's not a fair way to judge it since the CG/etc. obviously isn't finished. I like the idea of his helmet having melted onto his face though instead of it being just absorbed into him or whatever but you can tell they were rolling with the CG one and by the time they changed their minds/ran out of time they didn't have time for anything too drastic. Scott seems to favor practical stuff and in camera effects where it's feasible so I'm surprised they didn't go with makeup or something for him from the get go. The movie does make it very clear that it's Fifield, they see very aware that it's him laying down weirdly outside the ship and everything. Like even if they don't say it a million times I don't think there's any doubt once they actually head out.
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Nov 4, 2016 22:25
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Is Covenant being shot in 3D? I know there's a lot of blanket 3D hate or ambivalence, but the 3D in Prometheus was some of the best and most natural I've ever seen in a film. I'll never forget the image of that red scanner going across the cave showing off the illusion of depth, or Shaw's "abortion" looking like it was happening right before my eyes.
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Nov 4, 2016 22:54
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david_a posted:One of the reasons they went with what's on the movie is that Ridley felt the actor got totally lost under the CGI effects. Also, I'm not sure if the mutated version effects were 100% finished and polished, but they are a bit more noticeably artificial in motion than the other one. There wasn't much of an actor under there after all. I cant wait for his next movie. Wow he was the bad guy in MI rogue nation, haha. Hi, I was the scared geologist in Prometheus.
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Nov 4, 2016 22:54
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Tenzarin posted:There wasn't much of an actor under there after all. I cant wait for his next movie. Wow he was the bad guy in MI rogue nation, haha.
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Nov 4, 2016 23:53
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david_a posted:Have you seen Southcliffe? I have not, I would have to say that it kinda makes his role in Prometheus even funnier.
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Nov 5, 2016 04:37
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ruddiger posted:The alien fiefeld should've been left in for sure, I loved that his suit was fusing to his body too, evoking the bio-organic giger feel.
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Nov 5, 2016 13:49
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BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:Is Covenant being shot in 3D? I know there's a lot of blanket 3D hate or ambivalence, but the 3D in Prometheus was some of the best and most natural I've ever seen in a film. I strongly agree, Prometheus is the most wowed I've been at 3d effects in a movie. I think it's the way it's so full of smoke and particles and stuff. The scanner things, the holograms (human- and engineer-made both), the debris storm. Even the dream reader thing was sort of voxelly.
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Nov 5, 2016 21:16
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Did the other fifield zombie start off in that goofy rear end position with his legs wrapped around his shoulder?
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Nov 5, 2016 21:21
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banned from Starbucks posted:Did the other fifield zombie start off in that goofy rear end position with his legs wrapped around his shoulder? You mean the alternate CGI one? Yes, and if anything it works better because the CGI model allows for unnatural proportions that the practical version didn't have. For the curious, here's the alternate scene: https://youtu.be/BYnf6wuEB4g
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Nov 5, 2016 22:11
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I like that they put him in that pose in the alternate version because it really evokes the Xeno look
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Xenomrph posted:You mean the alternate CGI one? Yes, and if anything it works better because the CGI model allows for unnatural proportions that the practical version didn't have. That's way better.
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Nov 6, 2016 03:12
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banned from Starbucks posted:Did the other fifield zombie start off in that goofy rear end position with his legs wrapped around his shoulder? I swear this is a reference to Alien where in the extended cut you see it swinging from the chains before it's revealed in a similar posture. Or maybe I'm crazy.
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Nov 6, 2016 05:10
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Hunterhr posted:I swear this is a reference to Alien where in the extended cut you see it swinging from the chains before it's revealed in a similar posture. Its more like that ridiculous crab walk the alien doesn before it kills lambert.
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Nov 6, 2016 05:48
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Hunterhr posted:I swear this is a reference to Alien where in the extended cut you see it swinging from the chains before it's revealed in a similar posture. I think I saw it also in AvP.
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Nov 6, 2016 07:29
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Hunterhr posted:I swear this is a reference to Alien where in the extended cut you see it swinging from the chains before it's revealed in a similar posture. I always think about how that shot would be really amazing for someone who's watching for the first time and doesn't know what the alien looks like. The alien blends right in and can easily be mistaken for machinery or something.
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Nov 6, 2016 08:57
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This thread inspired me to watch Alien over the weekend and despite having seen it god knows how many times before I have a question: If the sole directive of the Nostromo's mission is to retrieve the alien and bring it back for Weyland-Yutani, why is there even a self destruct option on the ship? Edit: Nevermind, I googled it. Brand New Malaysian Wife fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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Nov 7, 2016 15:48
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I'd imagine googling it would just give you whatever answer some random nerd came up with on whatever site you happen to click on. The movie gives you plenty of information to come up with your own answer, there's several that could make sense.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:03
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Well the main reasons I saw were: - Safety so that it could be destroyed before it can damage a populated area being that it's towing a giant refinery through space - So that no competitors could potentially get their hands on it if something should go wrong - Because all spacecraft have a similar system
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Nov 7, 2016 17:06
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Brand New Malaysian Wife posted:Well the main reasons I saw were: These sound like perfectly fine reasons to me.
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Nov 7, 2016 17:14
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I always liked the whole concept of the towed refinery parking in space above a planet for a while, like to indigenous species we'd look like the mothership from Independence Day. That thing was huge.
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Nov 7, 2016 17:22
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Brand New Malaysian Wife posted:This thread inspired me to watch Alien over the weekend and despite having seen it god knows how many times before I have a question: Nostromo's directive is to haul cargo from one lovely end of space to the next. The alien stuff was a new directive added on their way home. And I'd imagine the self destruct is there incase something started leaking or something. To get rid of the hazardous materials? Destroy evidence? I don't know! Self Destruction options always seemed silly to me.
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The real answer is self-destruct is just a sci-fi trope that doesn't need any explanation. Its a spaceship, of course it has a self-destruct. Edit: Oh yea, and today I lived a life long dream of being able to say to a boss of mine, "can we discuss the bonus situation?" I forgot to do Italian gesticulations like Kotto, but maybe next time. Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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Nov 7, 2016 18:55
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Brand New Malaysian Wife posted:Well the main reasons I saw were: Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Nov 8, 2016 |
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Nov 8, 2016 01:31
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Tenzarin posted:Nevermind they found her past earth, they cant find poo poo. It was really just blind luck.
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Nov 8, 2016 18:44
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Yea Burke explains that it was 100% luck that she was found at all(kiddo).
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CelticPredator posted:Nostromo's directive is to haul cargo from one lovely end of space to the next. The alien stuff was a new directive added on their way home. The self destruct exist in the Alien universe because of an early disaster in space travel where a colony ship lost power and drifted into a planet, wiping out a full city.
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Nov 8, 2016 20:12
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Ships today can be scuttled if necessary (the Nostromo's destruct system is even labelled 'Scuttle' somewhere). Having a way to do the same thing in a spaceship isn't really a stretch (although blowing it up in a megaton nuclear explosion is slight overkill).
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Nov 9, 2016 08:36
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Payndz posted:Ships today can be scuttled if necessary (the Nostromo's destruct system is even labelled 'Scuttle' somewhere). Having a way to do the same thing in a spaceship isn't really a stretch (although blowing it up in a megaton nuclear explosion is slight overkill). It may have been overkill, but I think it was because the Nostomo was a tug. It wasn't the ship itself that would be a problem, but what it was potentially towing. http://alienscollection.com/ricardorefinery1.jpg The Nostromo is the really small bit front and center. Murphys Law fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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Nov 9, 2016 17:22
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I want my spaceship to have a castle on the top.
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Nov 10, 2016 00:42
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NarkyBark posted:I want my spaceship to have a castle on the top. I've heard that sort of thing is common in the grim darkess of the far future, along with war and the laughter of thirsting gods.
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NarkyBark posted:I want my spaceship to have a castle on the top. 
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