Going back to the first page and OP, I really loving hate when people say that I'm "not Filipino" just because I grew up and live in the US but had the gall to comment about the Philippines for all this poo poo that is happening over there. Made sure to point out that my Philippine passport technically means that I am Filipino. Also, I remember reading a few pages back with people mentioning that the Philippines' loans with China are not resource backed. What does this mean and how is it better/worse than what they seemingly have in place?
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 11:12 |
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ihatepants posted:Going back to the first page and OP, I really loving hate when people say that I'm "not Filipino" just because I grew up and live in the US but had the gall to comment about the Philippines for all this poo poo that is happening over there. Made sure to point out that my Philippine passport technically means that I am Filipino.
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 11:14 |
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ihatepants posted:Going back to the first page and OP, I really loving hate when people say that I'm "not Filipino" just because I grew up and live in the US but had the gall to comment about the Philippines for all this poo poo that is happening over there. Made sure to point out that my Philippine passport technically means that I am Filipino. It means that instead of being linked to the value of a country's national resources, like oil or some such, they're being repaid in the form of Chinese money. If the exchange rate relative to the Chinese RMB tanks, your debt magnifies horrifically.
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 17:20 |
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computer parts posted:A lot of coding is done there too, I actually have a friend there who codes some popular software (SAP?). gradenko_2000 posted:So yeah I do IT for a call center and my sister is a SAP coder so US companies pulling out of here would be ... bad SAP is a German company, not American. Off topic, but I wouldn't worry about your sister and friend retaining employment unless things really go south.
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 19:40 |
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NewMars posted:It means that instead of being linked to the value of a country's national resources, like oil or some such, they're being repaid in the form of Chinese money. If the exchange rate relative to the Chinese RMB tanks, your debt magnifies horrifically. Note: It's virtually guaranteed to tank even if the Chinese aren't engineering a devaluation as I post this (they are)
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 20:04 |
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Grouchio posted:Has Hilary Clinton mentioned any plans for the Philippines in her policies? War is sounding to start like the lesser of two evils here. The USA can't declare war on every lovely country in the world. If you haven't noticed, it rarely improves things. It's cold comfort to be killed by America's Nobly Aimed drones vs Duterte's death squads.
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 20:08 |
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Duterte hasn't actually done anything to seriously abrogate the alliance, all he's done is talk poo poo and he isn't the first dictator to think it can get what it wants from the US by threatening to do so.
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 20:12 |
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Fojar38 posted:Note: It's virtually guaranteed to tank even if the Chinese aren't engineering a devaluation as I post this (they are) If the Chinese devalue their currency wouldn't ' that make the debt easier to pay off?
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 20:25 |
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Squalid posted:If the Chinese devalue their currency wouldn't ' that make the debt easier to pay off? You're right, I misread the post in question as "If the RMB tanks"
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 20:27 |
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BarbarianElephant posted:The USA can't declare war on every lovely country in the world. If you haven't noticed, it rarely improves things. It's cold comfort to be killed by America's Nobly Aimed drones vs Duterte's death squads. His current gimmick is slavering at the thought of subverting democracy and violent geopolitical power fantasies. He hasn't noticed anything.
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 20:32 |
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BarbarianElephant posted:The USA can't declare war on every lovely country in the world. If you haven't noticed, it rarely improves things. It's cold comfort to be killed by America's Nobly Aimed drones vs Duterte's death squads.
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 21:07 |
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Shooting Blanks posted:SAP is a German company, not American. Off topic, but I wouldn't worry about your sister and friend retaining employment unless things really go south. For my friend anyway they contract out with many companies at once. She was just reassigned to a popular (US) time keeping software that my company actually uses. It's a significant chunk if nothing else.
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NewMars posted:It means that instead of being linked to the value of a country's national resources, like oil or some such, they're being repaid in the form of Chinese money. If the exchange rate relative to the Chinese RMB tanks, your debt magnifies horrifically. I talked to a friend and read a little more about this and please correct me if I'm wrong regarding what I understood (I'm terrible at understanding this sort of thing). Based on how China has operated with loans to African countries and Sri Lanka, they offer to finance projects like infrastructure via debt (and not equity). Then a lot of these projects (possibly by design) fail, leading to a ton of misallocated capital. When these projects bust, of course the country can't pay back the loans and a big reason why is because the debt is allocated in RMB which a lot of the world doesn't have (RMB just became a central bank reserve currency this year, but only at a very small allocation). So the Chinese then convert the debt into equity leading to a lot of the infrastructure or whatever to belong to China. An example I was told about was like how Zimbabwe had to start making RMB an accepted currency but since their monetary and fiscal policy can't affect the RMB, they're kind of like China's economic slaves.
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 21:34 |
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ihatepants posted:I talked to a friend and read a little more about this and please correct me if I'm wrong regarding what I understood (I'm terrible at understanding this sort of thing). National finances work exactly like household finances.
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 22:01 |
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Have these Chinese soft loans' terms been released yet? (They probably will never be released. Just thought I'd ask.)
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 23:00 |
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Duterte: Billionaire Soros funding Human Rights Watchquote:MANILA - President Rodrigo Duterte said on Friday his war on drugs had cut back the supply to "very low" levels and thanked China for supporting his crackdown, but swore repeatedly at ally the United States for criticizing it. I don't know if I can take having to explain why (((George Soros))) isn't a member of the New World Order that's trying to implement the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in real life.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 01:20 |
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Jeez what a mess. Has the US done anything particularly lovely in the recent past, or is this all just tough guy talk to show that he'll stand up to the big bad America? TBH the moral thing would probably be to cut him loose and not support his death squads, China or not, but that's probably not gonna happen. In other news, quote:A mayor linked to the drugs trade in the Philippines has been shot dead in his jail cell by police.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 11:02 |
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The Philippines used to be a US colony but that's not exactly "recent." The most "recent" thing barring the fact that Duterte has always disliked the US is that they told him his extrajudicial mass murder was hosed up.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 11:09 |
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Fojar38 posted:The Philippines used to be a US colony but that's not exactly "recent." The most "recent" thing barring the fact that Duterte has always disliked the US is that they told him his extrajudicial mass murder was hosed up. Maybe they also denied him a visa one time?
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 11:23 |
And he says we were responsible for the worst of the damage the Philippines suffered during WW2. For reasons.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 11:33 |
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Sorry we bombed some poo poo while liberating you from the people who would behead a man for not bowing properly to a Japanese soldier.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 13:20 |
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To be fair, the US did kill a lot of Filipinos in the Philippine-American War. The Colt M1911 was literally developed to fight Moro guerillas with its stopping power.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 15:26 |
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Schneider Heim posted:To be fair, the US did kill a lot of Filipinos in the Philippine-American War. The Colt M1911 was literally developed to fight Moro guerillas with its stopping power. I'm somewhat flattered whenever I'm reminded that Filipino Moros were so badass that the American government specifically commissioned a bullet caliber that can kill them reliably. The logic doesn't follow anyway. If Duterte was consistent with his ultra-nationalist bullshit, he would've refused to go to Japan at all.
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Schneider Heim posted:To be fair, the US did kill a lot of Filipinos in the Philippine-American War. The Colt M1911 was literally developed to fight Moro guerillas with its stopping power. My first exposure to Mark Twain was his "Commentary on the Moro Massacre" piece back when I was 20, and I was hooked on his style and verve ever since.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 16:05 |
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For those of you following along with this recent "God" story: Duterte came back from his trip in China and said that during the plane ride back, God spoke to him, and he swore never to swear again. The President then broke that promise two days later by swearing in another rant. The President is now claiming that it was only a joke: quote:MANILA – President Rodrigo Duterte on Friday said only fools would believe his “joke” that God talked to him and made him promise to stop cursing. And then, earlier today, this happened: https://twitter.com/inquirerdotnet/status/794790671735394304 For additional background, it's a recurring theme so far in this administration for people to deflect Duterte's ... linguistic peculiarities as stemming from the fact that he's from Mindanao: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rte_MSX2w5E mobby_6kl posted:Jeez what a mess. Has the US done anything particularly lovely in the recent past, or is this all just tough guy talk to show that he'll stand up to the big bad America? The cynical (and likely correct) view is that Duterte was simply looking for any excuse to break ties with America and that was a handy excuse, but he would have found another had literally no one on the continent said a word about indiscriminate killings. mobby_6kl posted:In other news, One Senator, Ping Lacson, for his part does not believe the official story, https://has, and may try to restart the Senate investigation into EJKs over this.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 16:25 |
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quote:Rolando Espinosa, mayor of the central town of Albuera, had fired at officers searching for weapons, police said.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 22:38 |
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First they came for the drug pushers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a drug pusher. Then they came for the Senator drug pushers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Senator drug pusher. Then they came for the Mayor drug pushers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Mayor drug pusher. Then they came for me—whoops I guess I was a drug pusher. Who knew?
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mobby_6kl posted:Jeez what a mess. Has the US done anything particularly lovely in the recent past, or is this all just tough guy talk to show that he'll stand up to the big bad America? It really must be reiterated that America isn't a "big bad" in the Philippines. Filipinos probably have the warmest regards for the US out of any country in the world--and I'm including the US itself in there! Duterte really does come off like some kind of extreme, grotesque caricature of the Filipino stereotype: jolly but explodes in a torrent of wrathful defensiveness and spite at even the gentlest criticism that triggers his inferiority complex.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 23:18 |
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the best possible ending to this is that duterte mysteriously gets offed by a "stray" drone and hillary just picks her nose in response to queries
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 23:52 |
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:the best possible ending to this is that duterte mysteriously gets offed by a "stray" drone and hillary just picks her nose in response to queries "Who do you think killed Duterte?" "Would you look at the size of that booger?"
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 23:53 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:One Senator, Ping Lacson, for his part does not believe the official story, https://has, and may try to restart the Senate investigation into EJKs over this. Who knew that drug-pushers had infiltrated into the senate? Save us, Duterte!
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 23:53 |
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So uh. How do they expect anyone to believe that he was arrested on drugs and firearms charges, but not checked for firearms and other contraband before being stuck in a cell?
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# ? Nov 6, 2016 00:17 |
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I've heard that Duterte's vendetta against the US is personal because a US missionary priest abused him as a child. Or at least that's the thought. His language against Americans is weird because Filipinos love Americans more than Americans love Americans.
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# ? Nov 6, 2016 00:27 |
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seiferguy posted:I've heard that Duterte's vendetta against the US is personal because a US missionary priest abused him as a child. Or at least that's the thought. People keep saying that but I haven't heard about that much backlash from his china stuff. Is the anti duterte stuff in Filipino or something?
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# ? Nov 6, 2016 03:18 |
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drilldo squirt posted:People keep saying that but I haven't heard about that much backlash from his china stuff. Is the anti duterte stuff in Filipino or something? Filipinos have had close ties and positive relations and views towards America for years and years, which is why the Duterte pivot and the anti-American rhetoric is such big news (besides the fact that it's news solely because it's the President laying out a new foreign policy platform). Here's an article from April 2014 quote:MANILA, Philippines –The Philippines likes the United States of America a lot. And then a more recent one, from October 19 2016 quote:President Duterte’s visit to China points toward a restoration of trust between Manila and Beijing following recent tensions over their South China Sea territorial dispute, China’s official news agency said on Tuesday.
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# ? Nov 6, 2016 03:31 |
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I watched a movie a few years ago about the Philippine-American War made by Filipinos and the Americans were just cartoonish two dimensional villains, it was kinda like The Patriot in terms of tone, very patriotic. I can't remember its name right now unfortunately but the movie Amigo also covers the conflict and is much better and more nuanced, and definitely worth a watch. The protagonist is the head of a rural village who has to balance his relationship with his cousin, an insurgent hiding out in the forest, and the Americans who've occupied his town. Characters are constantly switching from English to Spanish to filipino to Cantonese.
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Squalid posted:I watched a movie a few years ago about the Philippine-American War made by Filipinos and the Americans were just cartoonish two dimensional villains, it was kinda like The Patriot in terms of tone, very patriotic. I can't remember its name right now unfortunately but the movie Amigo also covers the conflict and is much better and more nuanced, and definitely worth a watch. The protagonist is the head of a rural village who has to balance his relationship with his cousin, an insurgent hiding out in the forest, and the Americans who've occupied his town. Characters are constantly switching from English to Spanish to filipino to Cantonese. Was it Heneral Luna?
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https://twitter.com/cnnphilippines/status/795580045947387905 CNN ran a piece on concerns over the Duterte administration's political appointees overrunning career foreign service officers. === Duterte reactively (retroactively?) cancels the order of 26 000 rifles from the US. quote:President Rodrigo Duterte on Monday said he is ordering the cancellation of the purchase of assault rifles from the United States. === I think most of us are familiar with the concept of the writ of habeas corpus as a safeguard against illegal detention. The Philippines went one step farther than that: in 2007, our Supreme Court drafted the writ of amparo ("protection") and the writ of habeas data ("access to information"). They were written in the wake of extrajudicial killings and forced disappearances during the turn of the 21st century. The writ of amparo is supposed to prevent military officers from simply denying petitions on disappearances and EJKs, while the writ of habeas data is supposed to compel authorities to release whatever information they have on an individual. These writs were based on similar legislation crafted in Latin America to address similar issues of forced disappearances, but have rarely been tested in court. I bring this up because today, Senator Leila de Lima filed a petition for writ of habeas data against President Duterte. The petition by itself would test Presidential immunity from suit, but invoking habeas data would seek to have the Supreme Court compel the Executive to reveal whatever information they have on the Senator, and how this information has been or is being gathered. It should be noted that despite the President's repeated declarations that the Senator is guilty as sin, the House probe into her ties to the drug trade revealed nothing and no case has been filed against her. It's under this pretext that petition is being filed: de Lima claims that the President is abusing his immunity from suit by making repeated libelous accusations without actually going through with any sort of case, and then the habeas data is supposed to make public what the President actually knows about de Lima that makes him think he's entitled to make these accusations in the first place. The affidavit itself was posted publicly on Google Drive, if anyone wants to take a look. gradenko_2000 fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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Now we get to see how Deteurte handles the kidnapping and murder of foreign nationals by Abu Sayyaf.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Now we get to see how Deteurte handles the kidnapping and murder of foreign nationals by Abu Sayyaf. My money is on: Say something bloodthirsty toward the Abu Sayyaf (that he's already fighting anyway) Insult the captured man for being captured Insinuate that the dead lady should have taken the rape instead of fighting her captors
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