Star Citizen: Big MoMA's House

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Decrepus: May 21, 2008; In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.

AP posted:

https://www.twitch.tv/innlive/v/99233322?t=19m34s

It's all amazing to me, just listen to that. "Star Network, Star Network, Star Network"

That retard that's in the lower left always talks so matter-of-factly even though he is a compete loving idiot. I hate that poo poo.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 01:55

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# ? Jun 13, 2024 04:40

TheAgent: Feb 16, 2002; The call is coming from inside Dr. House; Grimey Drawer

hello

SQ42

SQ42 is an "always online" game (not prelude)
both games are developed in parallel, but one is always holding the other back
SQ42 hooks directly in SC
your choices determine stats, starting credits and ships in the SC universe
NPC factions will react to you different depending on your choices in SQ42
certain NPCs from SQ42 will be in the SC universe and will have different things to say depending on player choice
items, clothing, weapons you buy for $ or in-game currency will carry over from single player to SC

netcode is a problem; bigger problem are the servers
massive hardware upgrade needed for 2.6/3.0
"Nobody thought of the costs for something like this. It's too intense [on the server hardware]."
new server costs to host 2.6/3.0 changes easily quarter-mil a month for small test bed (hosting several hundred players) with millions to host 1,000s of players
this is due to how ships, players, combat, npcs and other critical gameplay components utilize CPU
nearly all of the above has to get refactored. that awesome damage model? refactored. your o2 level simulation? refactored. your fancy ships? refactored. AI? refactored. NPCs? refactored

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:04

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

Decrepus posted:

That retard that's in the lower left always talks so matter-of-factly even though he is a compete loving idiot. I hate that poo poo.

You hate it and I want a data center somewhere to store it for future generations.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:06

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

alf_pogs posted:

at this point if they just stopped and walked away, this thread would die within a few weeks.

goons are not goin to be a problem when (not if) poo poo gets real for cig. instead, its going to be the legion of fanatics who haven't gotten the fury out of the way that are gonna cause hell

Seriously, us Goons are just people in the audience shouting out things. CIG controls the entire show. CIG controls every update, every sale, every presentation, every show, every tweet, and all released product. Every last bit of this is in Chris Roberts' hands. Goons, Derek, Reddit, RSI forums, all have no influence outside of what Chris Roberts delivers.

It's not going to be Goons or Derek delivering the final blow. When everything goes to poo poo, it's going to be the dedicated backers rushing the stage, not us. We'll just be sitting back watching a comedy where everyone else is a player.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:06

Breetai: Nov 6, 2005; 🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌

Lazrin posted:

i've *always* said there's a huge risk that the project can't ever be finished... but the difference is i'm not worried about that, and would rather see someone try.

Lazrin posted:

isn't that a good thing? putting the wheels in motion has value. that moves things forward

i see a contingent of folks here who think its not ok to reach for those stars...

I'm a fan of dreaming big, and am A-OK with the march of technology and the advances that it will inevitably produce.

Just because I think that it would be neat to, say, see the day where we can transplant a human brain into a robot body, doesn't mean when I see someone spend $130,000,000 on giving Bubbles the Chimp a rusty chisel and a hammer and telling him to go hog-wild that I have to applaud the effort because 'they're trying'.

You dense motherfucker.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:08

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

TheAgent posted:

nearly all of the above has to get refactored. that awesome damage model? refactored. your o2 level simulation? refactored. your fancy ships? refactored. AI? refactored. NPCs? refactored

I understand that CIG is incompetent, but could we at least try to contain it and speak of what is happening in proper terms?
Refactoring is not going to solve any of the issues CIG is having. Ever.

So triggered right now. :colbert:

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:09

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

TheAgent posted:

SC

netcode is a problem; bigger problem are the servers

massive hardware upgrade needed for 2.6/3.0

"Nobody thought of the costs for something like this. It's too intense [on the server hardware]."

new server costs to host 2.6/3.0 changes easily quarter-mil a month for small test bed (hosting several hundred players) with millions to host 1,000s of players

this is due to how ships, players, combat, npcs and other critical gameplay components utilize CPU

nearly all of the above has to get refactored. that awesome damage model? refactored. your o2 level simulation? refactored. your fancy ships? refactored. AI? refactored. NPCs? refactored

Well obviously they are breaking new ground with this game on the IN-TER-NET model, you have to expect a few teething problems, especially this early in development.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:09

TheAgent: Feb 16, 2002; The call is coming from inside Dr. House; Grimey Drawer

Tippis posted:

I understand that CIG is incompetent, but could we at least try to contain it and speak of what is happening in proper terms?
Refactoring is not going to solve any of the issues CIG is having. Ever.

So triggered right now.

I use refactor the same way chris roberts uses it

are you saying chris roberts doesn't use refactor correctly

are you saying CIG doesn't use the term refactor correctly

you obviously don't know anything about game development

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:12

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

TheAgent posted:

I use refactor the same way chris roberts uses it

are you saying chris roberts doesn't use refactor correctly

are you saying CIG doesn't use the term refactor correctly

you obviously don't know anything about game development

I'm saying that when I called all of CIG amateurs for using the term over on the FDev forums, I got this apologetic reply from one of their devs:

Ben Parry posted:

The "refactoring" thing is like a bloody mind-virus. I'm making a stand against it, but it's hard to fight.
I think I know where it came from though.

Edit: Epistemic status uncertain. I'm now doubting my own memories

So, for tracking purposes, all checkins are marked with a single-letter prefix to say what they're basically doing. F is a feature. B is a bug fix. D is mass-deletion. I'm sure you can guess what R is for, but the problem is that this standard (I don't know if it's internal or imposed by a tool) doesn't have any other letter for "changing a bunch of stuff" - if you're not just deleting, and you're not adding a new feature, you kind of have to enter it as a refactor. You condition a whole company like that, it'll slip into their normal parlance, and there are plenty of people who'd never used it before, so they infer the meaning from how everyone around them is using it. Even people who do know better find it sneaking into their vocab when they're not paying attention, like when you spend too long around one group of people and start using "massive" to mean "good", or "literally" to mean "not literally".

So far I've stopped, like, one guy.

Even they know it's wrong, but like he says, it's a virus and it's spreading.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:15

TheAgent: Feb 16, 2002; The call is coming from inside Dr. House; Grimey Drawer

Tippis posted:

I'm saying that when I called all of CIG amateurs for using the term over on the FDev forums, I got this apologetic reply from one of their devs:

Even they know it's wrong, but like he says, it's a virus and it's spreading.

yeah I read that, which is why I will continue to use it the roberts way until I die

brb gotta refactor some beer into the toilet, then maybe refactor a hamburger into a cheeseburger

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:18

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

TheAgent posted:

yeah I read that, which is why I will continue to use it the roberts way until I die

You're the worst person ever.
Even worse than :sandance:

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:20

Raskolnikov: Nov 25, 2003

Sometimes I think "This is it, they are going to squeeze out the MVP!" but no, the Mo'crap demands better even though they couldn't get the man a proper mop.

This "game." :allears:

And yes, when it all comes crashing down, it won't be because goons were heretics, it will be because there is no ~~God~~ game to deliver to the faithful. But "awe, gee shucks, at least we tried!"

*rides leased Porsche off into the sunset*

Raskolnikov fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Nov 6, 2016

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:21

TheAgent: Feb 16, 2002; The call is coming from inside Dr. House; Grimey Drawer

Tippis posted:

You're the worst person ever.
Even worse than .

I've been the worst person since I was a little girl, this is true

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:22

Regrettable: Jan 5, 2010

Lazrin posted:

i've managed large software projects in the healthcare industry with budgets in the tens of millions with application revenue opportunities an order of magnitude more revenue than that. i've also managed people across disciplines on those projects.

though they weren't game projects, the factors for success are the same... not everyone here is a dummy.

Go gently caress yourself, Karl.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:27

HoneyBakedMAN: Oct 26, 2007; Sliced for babewiches

Is Star Citizen dead yet? Have we come to an agreement about pineapple on pizza?

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:29

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

HoneyBakedMAN posted:

Is Star Citizen dead yet? Have we come to an agreement about pineapple on pizza?

Both hot topics with no clear resolution on either

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:34

HoneyBakedMAN: Oct 26, 2007; Sliced for babewiches

peter gabriel posted:

Both hot topics with no clear resolution on either

What about tane?!

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:35

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

HoneyBakedMAN posted:

What about tane?!

A third hot topic appears

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:37

HoneyBakedMAN: Oct 26, 2007; Sliced for babewiches

peter gabriel posted:

A third hot topic appears

I swear to god if somebody doesn't tell me what "tane" means I will span this thread until I get banned.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:39

Raskolnikov: Nov 25, 2003

HoneyBakedMAN posted:

I swear to god if somebody doesn't tell me what "tane" means I will span this thread until I get banned.

FYAD meme originally from some unfunny poo poo. You're welcome.

CIG is poo poo. Karl has the mental capacity of a child.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:41

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:41

Raskolnikov: Nov 25, 2003

peter gabriel posted:

This is the only time a 'tane' joke has been funny.

The :siren:

female

on the left looks so self assured and goofy. Mr Bean just looks out of place.

Raskolnikov fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Nov 6, 2016

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:42

HoneyBakedMAN: Oct 26, 2007; Sliced for babewiches

Thank you Raskolnikov, and thanks for nothing Peter.

I still don't know what tane means but I no longer care. Wake me up when the ELE hits.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:45

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Raskolnikov posted:

This is the only time a 'tane' joke has been funny.

The female on the left looks so self assured and goofy. Mr Bean just looks out of place.

She is comfortable with the tane, he is unsure of the ramifications of it

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:46

Raskolnikov: Nov 25, 2003

HoneyBakedMAN posted:

Thank you Raskolnikov, and thanks for nothing Peter.

I still don't know what tane means but I no longer care. Wake me up when the ELE hits.

NP. The ELE pre-session is going on right now. 2017 is looking like a strong year for the ELE to really come into its own. Check back around May.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:46

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

I think 2017 is the year Star Citizen will really shine, I think as a backer I am in for a great year

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:48

MeLKoR: Dec 23, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

HoneyBakedMAN posted:

What is tane?

Listen to this, all will be made clear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYEksNpGucU

quote:

Edit: posting from several days ago, can't wait to see Dr. Smart's big reveal

Speaking to you from the future, it was a doozy wasn't it? :laffo:

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:53

TheLastRoboKy: May 2, 2009; Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

peter gabriel posted:

I think 2017 is the year Star Citizen will really shine, I think as a backer I am in for a great year

I too am enjoying drinking and huffing the paint can I found in my garage.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:55

Kakarot: Jul 20, 2013; by zen death robot; Buglord

Lazrin posted:

i've managed large software projects in the healthcare industry with budgets in the tens of millions with application revenue opportunities an order of magnitude more revenue than that. i've also managed people across disciplines on those projects.

though they weren't game projects, the factors for success are the same... not everyone here is a dummy.

Do you have a janitor called Dick Wulge?

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:55

Kakarot: Jul 20, 2013; by zen death robot; Buglord

peter gabriel posted:

hang on..that guy can read minds

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:56

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

TheLastRoboKy posted:

I too am enjoying drinking and huffing the paint can I found in my garage.

Let me know when you want it back aaaaayyyyyyyyy

# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:57

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

TheAgent posted:

hello

SQ42

SQ42 is an "always online" game (not prelude)

Oh hey they might want to be careful about that one.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/3861394/#Comment_3861394

# ? Nov 6, 2016 03:00

Mr Fronts: Jan 31, 2016; Yo! The Mafia supports you. But don't tell no one. Spread the word.

Lazrin posted:

true or false:

cig is further along and has the best chance of any studio to build a game with the scope of star citizen.

one word answer: true or false

Nice derail, you vertebrate.

# ? Nov 6, 2016 03:01

vyst: Aug 25, 2009

tane

# ? Nov 6, 2016 03:05

DogonCrook: Apr 24, 2016; I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters