pookel posted:

Wait, you're telling me that there is folk music derived from industrial music and the people who make it are loving Nazis?

This makes me - a former violinist, former industrial-loving goth, and current folk music lover - very, very sad. (Please tell me there's someone who makes this sort of music who is not a Nazi.)

ate all the Oreos posted:

Industrial music has been so tainted by nazis that it's literally the first thing I think of when I think "what does a neo-nazi listen to." I realize they're probably a small minority but they seem to really like it

atomicgeek posted:

Wouldn't Original Flavor Nazis have hated industrial for being modernist and degenerate though?

TomViolence posted:

Nazis maybe, but the OG fascists were well into futurism, the music of which was very proto-industrial.

Hate Fibration posted:

Neofolk will never not be hilarious to me because it is entirely an accident of history. Musically speaking Industrial and Neo-Folk have pretty much nothing in common at all.

pookel posted:

Wait, you're telling me that there is folk music derived from industrial music and the people who make it are loving Nazis?

pookel posted:

This makes me - a former violinist, former industrial-loving goth, and current folk music lover - very, very sad. (Please tell me there's someone who makes this sort of music who is not a Nazi.)

Darth Walrus posted:

As I believe I've said before, the futurists came up with some really cool poo poo (Umberto Boccioni did some amazing paintings). It's a crying shame about the ideology behind it.

Lottery of Babylon posted:

Who was behind modern feminism? Second-wave feminism was an entirely Jewish movement. Sexual liberation in general is a Jewish movement. Sexual neuroticism has always been a hallmark of Jews in general.

Nessus posted:

I was looking at the article on Carlyle and thought "Why are these people so into him? He seems like a Standard English Thinky Man of his era," and then I found

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occasional_Discourse_on_the_Negro_Question

To paraphrase video game character Mr. House, "Is it so hard to not be goddamn loving racist as hell at literally every opportunity?"

Nessus posted:

"gee, who's responsible for my crippling terror creepy fetish that black men are going to steal away all my possible wives and generally dominate me in all sorts of ways? must be the jews"

Race Realists posted:

whereas 20th-Century racism was based largely of general ignorance/stupidity, I feel 21st-Century racism is rooted mostly in contrarianism

"Racist means Bad Person, so I'll just react smugly to the accusations"

Woolie Wool posted:

It's not really contrarianism, it's that many white people invest much of their self-worth in their whiteness, whether they realize it or not, and any attack on the behavior of white people or the institution of whiteness is treated by these people as an attack on their innermost selves.

White people are hosed up.

hackbunny posted:

John Trudell posted:

Anyway, Columbus got here...and he didn’t know what it meant to be a human being. See, that perceptional reality of being a human being, and what it really meant, had been erased from descendants of the tribes of Europe, by the time they got here. So when we introduced ourselves to the European as human beings, they, just didn’t get it. It wasn’t a part of their perceptional reality. They might know how to say the words. Alright?, but being a human being had changed in their reality.

Woolie Wool posted:

Here, have it from some actual PoC who have had to deal with white people's poo poo personally:

Abagond
John Trudell
Chauncey DeVega

There were others that I've read but I cannot find them on short notice.

Found a complete transcript of the John Trudell speech with bits that Abagond's excerpt didn't include:


This is what I mean about whiteness and how white people take it into our very innermost selves, usually handed down from our parents, and it twists and corrupts us. Many, probably most, white people can't handle understanding this. The cognitive dissonance overwhelms them, they shut down, they blame the person of color for being uppity, for "playing the race card", whatever excuse they can think of to not confront themselves and what they are part of.

Hate Fibration posted:

The Vosgian Beast posted:

As I said in the first post about this topic, there are some red flags that one can notice about dating women. Some are specific, private, others are more like general guidelines. I have collected some other red flags on trying to date women again, and will list some of them here:

1) She has a lot of pictures in social media. Like it or not, a good part of dating nowadays is done through the computer, since we are doing more and more stuff through the computer, be it working, or unwinding.

A girl that has a lot of pictures of herself, like in the hundreds, or even thousands, on social media, is a red flag, unless she's been posting them for a lot of time. And maybe not even then.

Of course, these are pictures of herself, posing, filtered, all that crap. I´m not talk of landscapes here.

2) A lot of those pictures are of herself in various different styles. If a girl/woman has a lot of pictures with several types and colors of hair, several types and styles of fashion, or clothing, this is also a red flag.

I don´t know why specifically, but it has something to do with her personality changing a lot. I´m not a psychologist, but I gotta say, that I had a curious experience with a girl that fit this bill exactly. She even had a picture of herself made of smaller ones in which everyone of those were of her with a different hair style, and color of hair, on different days, but clearly during a small period of time.

Nothing wrong with changing hair style and color, but if the girl changes her hair in the same way she changes clothing, then you might have a red flag right there.

3) She is a social media queen. I´m not even talking about famous or semi-famous people here. But if she has FB, Twitter, Instagram, and whatever other bullshit like these going on, and she actively tries to juggle all her accounts with pictures of herself, her interests, in order to gather compliments and attention from strangers on a daily basis, you might want to reconsider talking to this woman. Not that she will talk to you that much anyway. She'll probably block you for no reason, after seeing you are not making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year anyway, or some such craptastic reason like that.

4) She is very religious. Do I really need to go into this one? Mentions God every two pictures/posting or less. Or Gods. Whatever. Very religious tends to equal crazy. Get out.

5) She does not care about you. I´ve talked about this one before. And look, I'm not a utopist, ok? I know that people in general don't give a flying f@ck about others. It´s hard to care.

I know.

But when you are trying to choose a mate, at least pretend! At least try. Otherwise just go down a bar and get a one night stand, or if you are a male, go to a hooker.

If the girl you are talking to, barely gives a gently caress about you, get the gently caress out. It´s been three days and she doesn't still know what exactly you do for a living, your major interests, and when she asks, she is content to hear one line, like this:

#
W: "Wat u do for fun?"

M: "I watch movies a lot"

W: (Changes subject).
#;

Or

#;
W: Do you write?

M: Yeah... I try.

W: Cool. Today I went to the mall and... blah blah blah (changes subject).
#;

You get the drift. She doesn't even pretend to give a half of a poo poo about you. Get out. Get out. Now.

6) Very feministic.

7) Very aware of "social issues", very liberal about all the issues going on. Politically correct. Always in favor of drugs, lesbianism is beautiful, blue hair kind of girls.


Do I really have to explain? The type of girls that think that introducing you to a friend makes her an accessary of rape. That kind of girl.

Like... gently caress that type of girl. Seriously.


For now, those are it.

I´ll see how it goes in this post, and maybe I´ll post more about my ventures.

divabot posted:

TomViolence posted:

Let's not paint it all with too broad a brush. I mean there are other genres hoaching with nazis or pseudonazis too, like post-punk or black metal, it's just that the smaller the niche the more visible the fascists are. I suppose also the mroe extreme the genre, the more it's drawn to extreme subject matter and shock value, the more likely it is to incorporate elements of fascism even just for performative purposes.

Syd Midnight posted:

Hi Divabot, um sorry to be talking to you in the middle of this thread, but a few months ago I bought you a forums upgrade so you could get PMs, did you ever get that or what?

TomViolence posted:

Let's not paint it all with too broad a brush. I mean there are other genres hoaching with nazis or pseudonazis too, like post-punk or black metal, it's just that the smaller the niche the more visible the fascists are. I suppose also the mroe extreme the genre, the more it's drawn to extreme subject matter and shock value, the more likely it is to incorporate elements of fascism even just for performative purposes.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

http://imgur.com/a/M6m3B

The Vosgian Beast posted:

http://imgur.com/a/M6m3B

divabot posted:

The problem for neofolk is that it was founded by Death In June (who first did the industrial->folk shimmy) who are (TOTALLY NOT) Nazis, and other genres with a fash infestation don't have that.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

http://imgur.com/a/M6m3B

ate all the Oreos posted:

I love it when racist people say things that are outwardly completely fine and just assume they're horrible nightmare realities to everyone and they don't even need to say why.

ate all the Oreos posted:

Hmm which shirt should I wear today... oh I know the good ol' RAPE shirt, it's real comfortable.

ate all the Oreos posted:

I love it when racist people say things that are outwardly completely fine and just assume they're horrible nightmare realities to everyone and they don't even need to say why.

ate all the Oreos posted:

I love it when racist people say things that are outwardly completely fine and just assume they're horrible nightmare realities to everyone and they don't even need to say why.